i see. so every judging panel will follow the sterling example set at nationals?
and judges never, ever change their minds about PCS. nope, they didn't slam mao, 2-time world champion, when she had multiple not-so-outstanding outings. nope, ashley wagner's PCS didn't suddenly skyrocket at 4cc after she finally became national champion either.
Clearly Caroline and Ashley are identical examples. Both won a national title this year, medaled on the GP, skate relatively fast and have interesting choreography. Caroline has done everything Ashley has to have her PCS skyrocket, so we can send her to Worlds knowing that she will get great marks as well. How could I be so naive to miss the comparison?
I would like that team as well, Ashey, Gracie and Caroline, however Agnes and Mirai have a big chance as well as maybe another younger skater... a lot of things can happen in 2 years.
Mirai coming 4th last Olympics.
i see. so every judging panel will follow the sterling example set at nationals?
and judges never, ever change their minds about PCS. nope, they didn't slam mao, 2-time world champion, when she had multiple not-so-outstanding outings. nope, ashley wagner's PCS didn't suddenly skyrocket at 4cc after she finally became national champion either.
Wagner skated LIGHTS OUT at 4CC and deserved to have a huge PCS mark compared to previous outings.Umm Wagner beat Asada in PCS in the LP at 4CCs. That wouldnt have happened in a million years a short while ago. Asada in fact is an example of dropping PCS after some reduced results, and Wagner an example of rised PCS with a National title so strange examples.
Wagner skated LIGHTS OUT at 4CC and deserved to have a huge PCS mark compared to previous outings.
Of course she did. However if she were still viewed as the #4-#6 American she never would have gotten them, deserved or not.
Ashley didn't have the attack in Japan when she faced Mao the first time that she did at 4CC. It's not that all of a sudden she's viewed as the American Champion so her PCS goes up a gazillion points. She was, at 4CC, in many respects, a totally different skater than earlier in the season in terms of speed, attack, polish, and cleanliness (she made some minor mistakes on jumps in Japan). If Ashley had been the #4 skater in the US but skated like that, she would have been CLOSE to the same score and still would have won, but I think it's a chicken and egg thing - if Ashley hadn't won Nationals she wouldn't have skated like that. It was like a switch went on when she won the US title and she's all of a sudden turned into a "LOOK AT ME" and "BEAT THIS" kind of skater in terms of presentation. Hopefully she can carry that mentality over into Worlds.
Totally disagree - Mao is the reigning Japanese Champion (so Japanese National Champion Rep points negate American National Champion Rep points) and has a much longer-standing well regarded reputation internationally than Ashley (multiple World Medals, OSM). If we are going to go that direction that it's reputation scoring, if it was anyone who had the highest chance of winning based on reputation, it was Mao. Ashley had to skate a near-perfect competition to beat Mao, even as US Champion, and needed Mao to make some mistakes to secure it. (I do not subscribe to National Reputation points as much as most of you seem to, though)well it's called National reputation
and the fact that 2012 4CC was held in the US , she obviously had the highest chance of winning it.