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Folks please stay on topic of the thread will be closed.
I disagree about supposed blindness towards media. Screenshot from official document still needs to be verified. Very easy to falsify anything nowadays.This is not a screenshot from the media, this is a screenshot from an official document. And the links also lead to official documents (including WADA documents). There are no links in the article you trust. If you don’t want to fact-check, well, no one is forcing you. But this is not a sign of cynicism, it is a sign of blind faith in the concept of “good” and “bad” media.
This.it is way too soon to draw conclusions
This.
The rule has not even entered into force fully. We are still in the transition period.
It will take at least 4, but preferably more years before we can see and analyze any effects, whatever those might be. This is if we take the topic seriously, of course.
I think it's probably closer to 10 years before we can see the full impact of this change
Which, as orzin notes, will only make the competition at the junior level fiercer.Juniors can win all they want as juniors. Go juniors
It will be 17 as of next season.And then when they are old enough to skate senior (personally I would like to see 17, but 16 is a good start), they can skate senior. Go seniors
Probably they will. Considering the latest news about congress proposals about debilitation of technical side of sport by further removing jumps and combinations, allowing more repetitions etc. - I have no doubt that they will adopt this rule unanimously. It's the long and old trend of ISU congresses after all (4A and pairs quad throws low cost was very indicative sign btw).It would be better to just ban quads altogether for females.
Which, as orzin notes, will only make the competition at the junior level fiercer.
So a lot will depend on whether each skater is focused on winning right now (at junior level), or on pacing themselves for a longer career in seniors. I think we'll take different skaters taking different approaches.
It will be 17 as of next season.
I have my suspicions that ISU officials are often read this forum at least - or even that some of the members here are in fact one of the ISU officials.Forum members are mostly original fans with some skating background. They have not much effect to anything. Blaming the forum members about the rules leads to nothing but arguments and is no useful to anybody.
If they are ambitious (and who wouldn't if you are going into big sport and paying huge amount of money, time and health) they are practically forced to skate full out. And new age rule just aggravate these conditions because it raises level of competition in juniors (more years - more skilled athletes - harder to get titles and medals) AND complicates transfer to seniors (it's harder to get rating points). Without quads a junior women skater can often found herself in a situation when she can't transfer in seniors until 19 because she wouldn't get any GP events. And after 19 without TES advantage she can't compete with reputable PCS seniors and doomed to years of B-level tournaments. Who would want to continue career in these conditions?I understand that some skaters may want to skate full out at juniors, and if they want to do that, I hope that they are doing it in a healthy and paced manner, but that's what they want to do, that's their problem and their team's problem. I don't see the point of an all out war for junior gold when senior gold is waiting in the wings, but that's me.
If they are ambitious (and who wouldn't if you are going into big sport and paying huge amount of money, time and health) they are practically forced to skate full out. And new age rule just aggravate these conditions because it raises level of competition in juniors (more years - more skilled athletes - harder to get titles and medals) AND complicates transfer to seniors (it's harder to get rating points). Without quads a junior women skater can often found herself in a situation when she can't transfer in seniors until 19 because she wouldn't get any GP events. And after 19 without TES advantage she can't compete with reputable PCS seniors and doomed to years of B-level tournaments. Who would want to continue career in these conditions?
Tara wore out her hip joints by age 16 by doing too many repetitions of the triple loop, especially the 3Lo-3Lo combo. She retired from the sport after a few years skaing in shows. She has had hip replacement surgery on both hips.As Tara Lipinski said...
omg how did you discover me so quicklyor even that some of the members here are in fact one of the ISU officials.