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2014 Cup of China Ladies Free Skate 11/08

Why didn't the award ceremony immiediatly follow? I thought that was how these things worked usually. Now I'm confused.

At the Grand Prix events (this season for sure and I believe in years past), the medals have been awarded at the conclusion of all the day's events. I have a really hard time believing Lipnitskaia didn't know this or wasn't advised by one of the Russian team staff or event organizers. If she had won, would she have also missed it? Eye roll.
 
Tatjana Flade @Tatjana21 via twitter: J. Lipnitskaia missed awards ceremony b/c she went back to hotel and did not know that awards came at the end.

:rolleye: and I guess her team didn't bother to ask before left. I mean, if they dont give it immediatly you shoud ask when it would be.
 
Yeah, i saw the didn't know when it was tweet. Who knows. That seems a bit unlikely and irresponsible. I would think there would be ways to get in touch with her. Seems she likely could have gotten there in time for press pics for instance.

We don't know, I was just saying if. Heck we likely may never know the real full story.

Adding my two cents:

Not a hater, but the "didn't know when the medal ceremony was" tweet is extremely hard to believe, IMO.

If Lipnitskaya had won the event after a great skate, I bet that her handlers and she would have "known" what time she should show up to accept the gold.

:rolleye: and I guess her team didn't bother to ask before left. I mean, if they dont give it immediatly you shoud ask when it would be.

Exactly. :agree:
 
At the Grand Prix events (this season for sure and I believe in years past), the medals have been awarded at the conclusion of all the day's events. I have a really hard time believing Lipnitskaia didn't know this or wasn't advised by one of the Russian team staff or event organizers. If she had won, would she have also missed it? Eye roll.

Yeah I have a hard time with that excuse as well. All the skaters knew when awarding was but her? Come on.... This isn't here first time on the GP.
 
Adding my two cents:

Not a hater, but the "didn't know when the medal ceremony was" tweet is extremely hard to believe, IMO.

I'm with you. I don't believe it. I would however like to know what really was the issue. I hope one day Yulia herself comes clean about this. It will inevitably be asked of her. Until I hear her side I will reserve judgement.
 
I wonder why she didn't attend. I mean she should be overjoyed that this performance made the judges still give her the silver medal! She should be grateful and not pouty. To be honest it is kinda divaish behaviour and she is just too young for that. Kanako and Liza must also think "what a joke"....
 
Yuliya has won silver or placed second before though, and she still went to the medal ceremony, politely stood there, smiled, and waved. Could there be something else going on that they don't want to reveal? :scratch:
 
I'm with you. I don't believe it. I would however like to know what really was the issue. I hope one day Yulia herself comes clean about this. It will inevitably be asked of her. Until I hear her side I will reserve judgement.

The excuse is lame.
She must come out with a better one.
It's impossible to miss it. It's in the official program. It's printed. It' on the net. Coach and staff of Russia team are informed too. Any eventual change is promptly communicated to her (via Russia team) by the ISU staff. Communication is direct (talk to/find ;) the athlete) and by phone. Plus members from Russia in the ISU in Shanghai are an additional "direct contact".
 
I wonder why she didn't attend. I mean she should be overjoyed that this performance made the judges still give her the silver medal! She should be grateful and not pouty. To be honest it is kinda divaish behaviour and she is just too young for that. Kanako and Liza must also think "what a joke"....

I just hope it's nothing serious.
 
I think she was very upset about her performance and may be the scores to assist. It is not because the second place, she is not the type of skater that is happy about a good place with a bad performance, I admire she is so committed and that was not insignificant situation for her that poor performance, but this don`t justify her behavior.
 
I still don't know how that would justify 61 PCS for that disastrous skate. should've been sub 100 points.
So? Hanyu completely screwed up BOTH of his programs and he got a silver. At least Yuliya had a great short skate. And it's not like she's the only ladies skater to make a mistake.
 
I'm with you. I don't believe it. I would however like to know what really was the issue. I hope one day Yulia herself comes clean about this. It will inevitably be asked of her. Until I hear her side I will reserve judgement.

I do feel bad for you, Sam-S. I hope that YL can understand that loyal advocates like you will be waiting for her to address her absence.

I feel bad also for Tatjana Flade, who got stuck being the ISU mouthpiece for Team YL's claim that she did not have information that was readily available to literally anyone in the world.
 
I still don't know how that would justify 61 PCS for that disastrous skate. should've been sub 100 points.

It doesn't justify her crazy high FS score. But it does marginally justify the overall silver medal since she built up a cushion over Murakami and the rest, which I doubt many would argue with. Had she bombed both her SP and LP and still got silver, like Hanyu, that would have been an even worse judging. I mean it happened with Brown over Nguyen at SA.

It's funny how so many people disregard the SP after a competition. Julia skated a fantastic SP and this even with an awful FS a medal is justifiable-ish (it's not like any other lady other than Tukt had two clean segments... Daleman and Murakami were the closest to that. However by the same token, Hanyu bombed his SP and his LP whereas Nam was solid in both segments and Dornbush was too.

At least neither Hanyu or Lip won their events otherwise this bad scoring would be even more grievous.
 
How could she forgets about her ceremony??????If this was her first competition in her life, I will get it....but this is no her first competition...
I know she has a bad day, but to be honest she should be happy about her silver medal!
For me, without her ridiculous PCS, she should be placed 4th or 5th at least.
She needs to learn how to lose..Also she should be feels sorry about the Polina and Kanako.
 
I felt really angry with the result....This is really stupid opinion, but I think figure skating should be judge by mechine

That is not a stupid opinion. I think one day there will, at the least, be ways to determine things like under-rotations and wrong edge take-offs that will take human error off the table.
 
I felt really angry with the result....This is really stupid opinion, but I think figure skating should be judge by mechine

That is not so good an idea, I think. If you let be judged by machine, you will let the skaters skate like machine. Unless you teach the machine how to evaluate human emotion and creativity. The technical marks could possibly be done by computer, though.
 
That is not a stupid opinion. I think one day there will, at the least, be ways to determine things like under-rotations and wrong edge take-offs that will take human error off the table.

This way is already technically possible. It's not rocket science. It's easy and not that costly to implement.
But no interest from ISU. Guess why?
 
That is not so good an idea, I think. If you let be judged by machine, you will let the skaters skate like machine. Unless you teach the machine how to evaluate human emotion and creativity. The technical marks could possibly be done by computer, though.

For now day, I think judge did not really score on their PCS with their skating skill or emotion or creativity....I believe that there is no true meaning of PCS from now day.
 
For now day, I think judge did not really score on their PCS with their skating skill or emotion or creativity....I believe that there is no true meaning of PCS from now day.

It's partially true. For PCS they are guidelines but scoring it's highly subjective... so prone to be manipulated.
 
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