I personally don' believe the excuse, but I suppose it's not far away from the truth. Yulia might just rushed back to hotel after her horrible skate (that's the thing I would do if I were her) and Eteri was with her. There were still 4 hours before ceremony so they would have enough time to come back. They might not be accompanied by any official as the games were still going on. Yulia had a bad time at hotel - I would be surprised if she had a good one - and Eteri was there dealing with her. Both of them forgot there was still things like awards ceremony. It might be already too late when the officials found they hadn't come back to the arena.
2014 Cup of China Ladies Free Skate 11/08
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I personally don' believe the excuse, but I suppose it's not far away from the truth. Yulia might just rushed back to hotel after her horrible skate (that's the thing I would do if I were her) and Eteri was with her. There were still 4 hours before ceremony so they would have enough time to come back. They might not be accompanied by any official as the games were still going on. Yulia had a bad time at hotel - I would be surprised if she had a good one - and Eteri was there dealing with her. Both of them forgot there was still things like awards ceremony. It might be already too late when the officials found they hadn't come back to the arena.
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So, the woman defeated the child, so the child throws a spectacularly child-like reaction and refuses to attend the medal ceremony.
What disgraceful behaviour. I hope someone on Team Russia gives her a clip across the ears for that.
Oh, by the way, Yulia, your pathetic "I didn't know when it was" excuse would fly a lot better if you hadn't medalled at TWO Grands Prix last year, oh, and Russian Nationals, and Euros, and Worlds, and the Olympics...
What disgraceful behaviour. I hope someone on Team Russia gives her a clip across the ears for that.
Oh, by the way, Yulia, your pathetic "I didn't know when it was" excuse would fly a lot better if you hadn't medalled at TWO Grands Prix last year, oh, and Russian Nationals, and Euros, and Worlds, and the Olympics...
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Interview with Tarasova:
- What could prevent a sportsman from attending a medal ceremony?
- Only dead faint.
- What else?
- Nothing else.
- You blame her?
- Don't rush with pitchforks at your own kind. Lipnitskaya is a young athlete. But she visited competitions of various levels including Olympics. There is an order. And both athletes and coaches should know the rules better than anybody else and should follow them.
- So that's an obvious oversight?
- The oversight both from the athlete and the coach.
- You don't think it was a demonstration?
- No, I think, Yulia was just depressed and left the rink. But we coaches are responsible for them. Both are to blame. But the public should not become the jury and judges. Do not judge harshly.
My personal view - she was just overwhelmed, being an introvert she just wanted to hide somewhere to be left alone. I am concerned that if pressed she can just quit for goods, hide somewhere where no one will recognize her and return crossing out figure skating from her life forever.
In terms of the result I see no issues despite her disastrous skating on which she anyway lost 30-35 points. She had a good margin over Murakami and especially Edmunds after SP. Kanako had a messy skate herself - would be a scandal indeed if she were clean. Men's placing looks more questionable to me.
- What could prevent a sportsman from attending a medal ceremony?
- Only dead faint.
- What else?
- Nothing else.
- You blame her?
- Don't rush with pitchforks at your own kind. Lipnitskaya is a young athlete. But she visited competitions of various levels including Olympics. There is an order. And both athletes and coaches should know the rules better than anybody else and should follow them.
- So that's an obvious oversight?
- The oversight both from the athlete and the coach.
- You don't think it was a demonstration?
- No, I think, Yulia was just depressed and left the rink. But we coaches are responsible for them. Both are to blame. But the public should not become the jury and judges. Do not judge harshly.
My personal view - she was just overwhelmed, being an introvert she just wanted to hide somewhere to be left alone. I am concerned that if pressed she can just quit for goods, hide somewhere where no one will recognize her and return crossing out figure skating from her life forever.
In terms of the result I see no issues despite her disastrous skating on which she anyway lost 30-35 points. She had a good margin over Murakami and especially Edmunds after SP. Kanako had a messy skate herself - would be a scandal indeed if she were clean. Men's placing looks more questionable to me.
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Well, we can't be quite sure this is what really happened... The excuse sounds fishy, but I'm willing to give Yulia the benefit of doubt, and accept the explanation as true. But I sure hope to see classy conduct on her part the next time she loses. We're watching you, Julia.
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No
I understand that she wanted that gold very much, but she has to understand (and if she refuses to, Eteri has got to tell her) that multiple factors stopped her from winning the gold. New program, new boots*, lack of preparation, bad place... I just hope that she sees this silver as a chance to improve in TEB instead of being nervous and bombing in France as well.
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Because of her one bad skate, or beause of the nagging about the ceremony? Either way, I hope not - she looks like a smart girl, and surely understands that sometimes you just have a rotten day, but life goes on.
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That was heartbreaking to watch. She looked like she was dying out there.
You can move past this Yulia we believe in you.
Seriously was this event cursed? I am not joking at all.
You can move past this Yulia we believe in you.
Seriously was this event cursed? I am not joking at all.
Yulia Lipnitskaya is also known to be - let's put it politely - headstrong. That's not my idea but a fact, which has been mentioned in various Russian interviews & articles. If she gets upset and decides to leave the rink, no one will be able to stop her. Neither her coach nor any Russian and/or ISU official...
I feel like the technical caller was pretty harsh. I didn't think Murakami's 2nd 3Lo and Polina's 2nd 3Lz were UR. It's also crazy how much they're penalizing people for doing jumps off the wrong edges as opposed to years past.
I think Lipnitskaia should've been 3rd (with a sub-100 long), Murakami 4th, and Edmunds 2nd. Polina seemed underscored in PCS in the long. Like, if Tuktamysheva can be in the low-mid 8s for her wacky choreo (bent arms, strange dance, shushing the crowd, etc.) I think Polina should be at least in the low 7s. Her program is a bit boring to me, but she's at least trying to do things other than jump.
Does anyone else think Lipnitskaia will be in for a rough season? Her SP was really good, but she seems to have seriously lowered her jumping difficulty and lost her consistency. Or maybe this was just a fluke?
I think Lipnitskaia should've been 3rd (with a sub-100 long), Murakami 4th, and Edmunds 2nd. Polina seemed underscored in PCS in the long. Like, if Tuktamysheva can be in the low-mid 8s for her wacky choreo (bent arms, strange dance, shushing the crowd, etc.) I think Polina should be at least in the low 7s. Her program is a bit boring to me, but she's at least trying to do things other than jump.
Does anyone else think Lipnitskaia will be in for a rough season? Her SP was really good, but she seems to have seriously lowered her jumping difficulty and lost her consistency. Or maybe this was just a fluke?
Yulia has a flutz so it's probably smarter than she limits it to one in the LP, she's just being strategic by changing her jump content, I think she's just having a rough start since she was having boot problems and was sick for a while, also her LP was changed pretty late so I'm guessing with the set backs it's hard for her to be as prepared as she usually is
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She didn't attempt it, she popped it along with the first flip. Do you remember the practice video that turned up the day of the SP where she only had mistakes on a flip and doubled a Salchow. In that run through she did 2A-3T-2T, 2A-3T, 2S (looked like she meant do do it well landed not like one of those jumps where it falls apart in the air), 3L, 3F with hand(s) down and she had no trouble on the 3Lz. This wasn't a question of technique because we've already seen her do all her triples with no trouble, between the test skates, that show, practices and her SP. This was a mental issue. She already had doubt and when she fell on the Salchow and stumbled in the footwork something happened and she fell apart. I still think she can pull it together for next time though. this was the worst skate she's ever had and there's seemingly nowhere to go but up.
I still think it was a mistake for them to change her layout. At the test skate her 3Lz was incredible (One poster in the fanfest took the take-off in slow-motion and zoomed in and you could see that she only changed to a flat at the last second which would be an ! call, as well as her 2A. She did have a hand down on the 3F but the program was very polished. Then they change it, as well as her FS layout which would put doubts in my mind. It makes no sense because even two days ago she was doing a 3Lz, no problem. An ! call would cost her at the most 2.10 in GOE and it would have been better to stick with what she already was doing well.
Julia's issues now are not about losing or not getting gold... it is about having high performance expectations set upon her by many and then whiffing them by a mile... this can be extremely psychologically traumatic.
That being said, missing the ceremony could only cause more issues not less and this is something her coach should know.
BTW, Yulia's FP dress/costume still isn't finished yet. I don't understand how this is possible and it points to the chaotic preparation involved in her FP.
Anyway, she will be at the Gala at least...
http://fsrussia.ru/news/446-yuliya-lipnitskaya-sama-ne-ponyala-chto-sluchilos.html
That being said, missing the ceremony could only cause more issues not less and this is something her coach should know.
BTW, Yulia's FP dress/costume still isn't finished yet. I don't understand how this is possible and it points to the chaotic preparation involved in her FP.
Anyway, she will be at the Gala at least...
http://fsrussia.ru/news/446-yuliya-lipnitskaya-sama-ne-ponyala-chto-sluchilos.html
I think it's hard to judge her on this competition/FS considering she had several issues that prevented her from being well-prepared for the event, I mean they don't even have her dress ready. I think the reactions that are happening right now from a lot of people is a case of knee-jerk reactions and non-Julia fans smelling blood in the water. I mean yesterday the board had posts saying 'she's unstoppable, unbeatable, etc' - today there are posts that her time in the sport will be ending soon, or something to that like that. Performances like today are not the norm for her, so until I see more skates like today from her, I'm going to say it's a fluke and a combination of off-season issues for her.
To me, her team is playing her jumping content smart - she has issues with flutzing, with the new rules, it's more beneficial for her to not risk it especially when she's had boot problems this off-season.
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Just finished watching all videos for Ladies FS.
This is criminal and shameful act by ISU judges: Yulia's FS piece should be worth only 90 points with such ugly delivery. She has no capability for her 3Lz anymore. All her jumps have technique problems. She kicks on her 3F too.
And Polina is way under scored, what's deduction for?
This is criminal and shameful act by ISU judges: Yulia's FS piece should be worth only 90 points with such ugly delivery. She has no capability for her 3Lz anymore. All her jumps have technique problems. She kicks on her 3F too.
And Polina is way under scored, what's deduction for?
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:agree: Count me in the "unstoppable" column. She had a bad outing. She'll be fine. :yes:
As for the podium thing, I'm with Mrs, Tarasova -- "Don't rush with pitchforks at your own kind." (Thanks, Samkrut, for the translation.)
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Her deduction was for a time violation apparently
Press conference photo...
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Congrats to Liza but not able to enjoy her LP due to the annoying commentary on each of the videos I've found.
Sorry but breathing heavily into the microphone and talking throughout a performance really kills it for me
Oh thank goodness I thought I was the only one bothered by that when I was watching the performances.
