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Yuzuru Hanyu: 2015-16 Season
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1. Skate America 2012 – Seattle/Kent, Washington: 95.07
2. NHK Trophy 2012 – Sendai, Japan: 95.32
3. Grand Prix Final 2013-14 – Fukuoka, Japan: 99.84
4. 2014 Winter Olympics – Sochi, Russia: 101.45
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1- Chopin Project Runaway...sample #1, #2, #3
- There's bling on his new UA at the upper back @0:17 of this gif. A tumblr post stated that the UA was a gift from a fan.
- The news broadcast as seen on board a Yamanote Line train
- Awww!! Nam and his brother Yuzu
- He is looking at you kid
- The first photo....UA
I love these! And I think the second picture, with the black gradient, is stunning
Even though the Chopin sp has 4t in the second half, its bv is not much higher than the bv of PW because Chopin has 3a in the first half and it doesn't get the 10% bonus. In fact the bv of Chopin is only 0.18 points higher than the bv of PW. He had a perfect PW at the Olympics. He already got (almost) the highest possible tes with that layout, so the tes of Chopin can't be much higher than the tes of PW, which is 54-55. The only way to get 105-106 for the current layout of Chopin is to receive a pcs of 50 (I.e.10 in each component), which i don't think is likely even with his improved skills. He may receive a pcs of 46-47 if he is absolutely perfect (similar to his Sochi PCs, which has a bit of Olympic inflation), unless the judges really inflate his pcs(I'm not sure if that's a good thing). It's possible to break the world record with the current layout of Chopin, but i don't think the score will be siginifcantly higher than the current world record 101.45. It will probably just be 1-2 points higher at most. He needs to include a second quad to score 105-106 or higher. The second quad increases the bv by 4-5 points.
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I agree to change the neckline and would also change the pants. I'd like to see black pants with a belt like what he wore for PW and a shirt with a collar that is loose through the arms and a bit less fitted than the PW shirt. Keep the gradient, but maybe change the color to black and gray or blue and gray. A bit of bling, but not too much, and definitely without any frills and lace!
That is a great suggestion. I'm also leaning towards a grey/black gradient for this costume.
I agree on 105/106 being a bit too much with the current layout, but i think Chopin layout is a bit higher than 0.18.
I think it should be around 0.80 (taking Olympics BV as example for PW).
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1) Is this the original layout of Chopin with 4T in second half?
3A
4Tx
3Lz3Tx
2) SEIMEI Layout , anybody knows the BV for this?
4S
4T
3F
4T2T×
3A3T×
3A1Lo3S×
3Lo×
3Lz×
3) I thought in SP there is also +10% for jumps in second half, example per this results shown.
3A
4Tx
3Lz3Tx
2) SEIMEI Layout , anybody knows the BV for this?
4S
4T
3F
4T2T×
3A3T×
3A1Lo3S×
3Lo×
3Lz×
3) I thought in SP there is also +10% for jumps in second half, example per this results shown.
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He said that (since the COC collision and aftermath) there is nothing that he is afraid of. Since he was able to overcome that, he feels that he would be able to overcome anything.
Allow me to do the math
Parisienne Walkways
4T: 10.3
3A: 8.5*1.1 = 9.35
3Lz+3T: 10.1*1.1 = 11.11
TOTAL BV: 30.76
Chopin Balade no. 1
3A: 8.5
4T: 10.3*1.1 = 11.33
3Lz+3T: 10.3*1.1 = 11.33
TOTAL BV: 31.16
DIFFERENCE: 0.4 points
You may have noticed that the BV for the PW combo is lower than the one for Chopin. Keep in mind that I applied the new rules for Chopin, and so the 3T is worth .2 higher than before. Spins and steps were not considered here, but since the spins are basically the same and the step sequences are level 4, the difference in BV between the two programs should not be affected by those. I think that what he'll need to rely on, more than the PCS, is going to be GOEs. We've seen that judges appreciated the 3A into and out of the spread eagle, so that may help him. Although he was already getting good GOEs for his 3A in PW because of the counter entrance. Where he could stack up some points would be, I assume, with the quad.
1) Already answered above
2) Let me help (I'm pretty bored if it's not obvious)
4S: 10.5
4T: 10.3
3F: 5.3
4T+2T: (10.3+1.3)*1.1 = 12.76
3A+3T: (8.5+4.3)*1.1 = 14.08
3A+Lo+3S: (8.5+0.5+4.4)*1.1 = 14.74
3Lo: 5.1*1.1 = 5.61
3Lz: 6*1.1 = 6.6
TOTAL BV: 79.89
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, same goes for the SP. And we also have to consider that the spins, steps and choreo were not taken into account here at all, so the BV of the program should be slightly higher.
3) Yes, there is an extra 10% in the SP as well
BTW Alia, thank you for the pictures you posted before!
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x30po45_150807-トロント公開練習news-eve_sport
This clip is my favorite. He yells, "I can't do it! NO!" in English to his Pilates instructor. It's his childish side. Seeing him training those beautiful jumps also makes me happy.
This clip is my favorite. He yells, "I can't do it! NO!" in English to his Pilates instructor. It's his childish side. Seeing him training those beautiful jumps also makes me happy.
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Yes! Yes! I really really like this video, so I’ve watched it several times from last night. It is full of moments’ happiness, fulfilled practice, sweetness, and his strong will. Yeah, every time I see it, I feel happy from bottom of my heart. And I don't know why, some tears..
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Allow me to do the math
Parisienne Walkways
4T: 10.3
3A: 8.5*1.1 = 9.35
3Lz+3T: 10.1*1.1 = 11.11
TOTAL BV: 30.76
Chopin Balade no. 1
3A: 8.5
4T: 10.3*1.1 = 11.33
3Lz+3T: 10.3*1.1 = 11.33
TOTAL BV: 31.16
DIFFERENCE: 0.4 points
You may have noticed that the BV for the PW combo is lower than the one for Chopin. Keep in mind that I applied the new rules for Chopin, and so the 3T is worth .2 higher than before. I think that what he'll need to rely on, more than the PCS, is going to be GOEs. We've seen that judges appreciated the 3A into and out of the spread eagle, so that may help him. Although he was already getting good GOEs for his 3A in PW because of the counter entrance. Where he could stack up some points would be, I assume, with the quad.
1) Already answered above
2) Let me help (I'm pretty bored if it's not obvious)
4S: 10.5
4T: 10.3
3F: 5.3
4T+2T: (10.3+1.3)*1.1 = 12.76
3A+3T: (8.5+4.3)*1.1 = 14.08
3A+Lo+3S: (8.5+0.5+4.4)*1.1 = 14.74
3Lo: 5.1*1.1 = 5.61
3Lz: 6*1.1 = 6.6
TOTAL BV: 79.89
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, same goes for the SP
3) Yes, there is an extra 10% in the SP as well
Thank you for your work! I’m getting excited! About Ballade, I believe in Brian’s words saying 105-106 points are possible. He challenges himself to get difficult things doing. I always support him!
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Thanks @alia for all of lovely images, and everyone for all the updates!
Welcome @ellaine !
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0.18 is the difference between the BV of Chopin and PW when both programs receive the maximum BV (all level 4s) under the same rule. It's the difference between the bv of 4t and 3A multiply by 10%, i.e. (10.3-8.5)*10%=0.18
But now there is a rule change. The BV of 3T is increased by 0.2. So the BV of Chopin under the new rule will increase by an additional 0.2*1.1=0.22 points. So 0.18+0.22=0.4, which is the difference calculated by xibsuarz.
In Sochi, one of the spins in PW only received level 3, instead of level 4. The difference between a level 3 and level 4 spin (for that particular spin combination) is 0.4. So overall, the difference between the maximum BV of Chopin and the BV of PW in Sochi = 0.4+0.4=0.8 (like you said).
I think the GOEs Yuzuru received for his PW performance are already very high, mostly +2s or +3s. His 4t got an GOE of 2.86. So I don't know how much higher it can get. It's rare to get +3 across the board. I don't think it's realistic to expect every international judge to give +3 for every element. Some judges are more strict than others. So if he can get higher GOEs, I don't think it would be significantly higher than the overall GOEs in Sochi.
The 1-2 points I suggested is mostly for the increase in TES (BV+GOE), not for PCS. I don't expect his PCS to be significantly higher than his sochi PCS (maybe a fraction at most, otherwise I think the inflation is too much).
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About videos and reports from yesterday, some of your members seemed to be interested in his statement about retirement, career, and the accident at COC..
Today, the article describing them a bit in detail is uploaded, so I made rough translation focusing on his words. Anyone who understands Japanese correct me please.
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Source: http://www.nikkansports.com/m/sports/news/1519753_m.html?mode=all
The last season’s accident at COC or something brought him about some sense of mission.
“I had that accident, which enables me to convey the danger of brain concussion with more persuasion. My experience with mental care after the surgery will help me to support others. Thus, (my works should range to) not just figure skate, but sports overall. I hope to try to approach these areas little by little.”
His study at University relates to psychology, physical overall. Further, four years have passed since he came to Canada. He’d already had the unconventional career plan, but last season’s experience strengthened it.
“My career of becoming a coach seems to be fading away. I dislike being obsessed by some conventional framework. I want to be "Koushi"(*Note: he said “講師 (koushi)”, which is difficult to translate into a word. This term includes much wider range of subjects than a specific coach. Further, it also means something academic. Probably, to instruct, lecture, advise,,, in various sports and towards various athletes. ), if possible. I suppose I can, since I’m studying the areas around mentality or practice circumstances.”
His role is to convey his experience with “Gold medal”, which is not limited to winter sports.
“I hope to work in Japan, focusing more on supporting younger athletes. If I exclusively belong to a certain organization (about my job), I may get more stable income. But I don’t wish it. My wish is I’ll go to as many places as possible (as a freelancer)”
Gold after three years is the unchanged biggest goal. At the same time, another dream is there.
“Pyeongchang (The next Olympic after Sochi) has been my goal since I was very young. It’s to end with Gold medal at Sochi and another at Pyeongchang, and then turn professional. I’ve wanted to perform as a pro still in my best shape, rejecting turning pro after losing my best. There should be what it needs to be a professional.”
Now he intensely concentrates on his competitions without a single of indulgence.
“My impression is I come abroad just for the sake of skate. I must devote myself to skate more and more. There’s no classroom, but study is necessary. Thus, I seldom go around, eating out only a few times per year. At my days off, I just take a rest for skate. Sometimes I do training; I do something refreshing; and when I stop practice due to any trouble, I study about that. “
That accident at COC generated another feeling.
“I come to have less of fear. It’s feel like not something to fear but something to awe. Difficult... Even if I fall in any conditions or circumstances, I can feel that the things will be settled, since I was able to get over that (COC accident). I'm sure that I can improve my skills, I can do skating with more confidence, and I can get my practice more effective.”
This young king has pride and responsibility and confidence. The future with various possibilities lies ahead the way from the stormy last season.
ETA: adding note
Today, the article describing them a bit in detail is uploaded, so I made rough translation focusing on his words. Anyone who understands Japanese correct me please.
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Source: http://www.nikkansports.com/m/sports/news/1519753_m.html?mode=all
The last season’s accident at COC or something brought him about some sense of mission.
“I had that accident, which enables me to convey the danger of brain concussion with more persuasion. My experience with mental care after the surgery will help me to support others. Thus, (my works should range to) not just figure skate, but sports overall. I hope to try to approach these areas little by little.”
His study at University relates to psychology, physical overall. Further, four years have passed since he came to Canada. He’d already had the unconventional career plan, but last season’s experience strengthened it.
“My career of becoming a coach seems to be fading away. I dislike being obsessed by some conventional framework. I want to be "Koushi"(*Note: he said “講師 (koushi)”, which is difficult to translate into a word. This term includes much wider range of subjects than a specific coach. Further, it also means something academic. Probably, to instruct, lecture, advise,,, in various sports and towards various athletes. ), if possible. I suppose I can, since I’m studying the areas around mentality or practice circumstances.”
His role is to convey his experience with “Gold medal”, which is not limited to winter sports.
“I hope to work in Japan, focusing more on supporting younger athletes. If I exclusively belong to a certain organization (about my job), I may get more stable income. But I don’t wish it. My wish is I’ll go to as many places as possible (as a freelancer)”
Gold after three years is the unchanged biggest goal. At the same time, another dream is there.
“Pyeongchang (The next Olympic after Sochi) has been my goal since I was very young. It’s to end with Gold medal at Sochi and another at Pyeongchang, and then turn professional. I’ve wanted to perform as a pro still in my best shape, rejecting turning pro after losing my best. There should be what it needs to be a professional.”
Now he intensely concentrates on his competitions without a single of indulgence.
“My impression is I come abroad just for the sake of skate. I must devote myself to skate more and more. There’s no classroom, but study is necessary. Thus, I seldom go around, eating out only a few times per year. At my days off, I just take a rest for skate. Sometimes I do training; I do something refreshing; and when I stop practice due to any trouble, I study about that. “
That accident at COC generated another feeling.
“I come to have less of fear. It’s feel like not something to fear but something to awe. Difficult... Even if I fall in any conditions or circumstances, I can feel that the things will be settled, since I was able to get over that (COC accident). I'm sure that I can improve my skills, I can do skating with more confidence, and I can get my practice more effective.”
This young king has pride and responsibility and confidence. The future with various possibilities lies ahead the way from the stormy last season.
ETA: adding note
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OMG...Barrie is like what, one and half hours driving from my place....never expected him to go to Autumn Classic....such a surprise!!! Like a bonus in addition to Skate Canada
How lucky!! Have fun Elaine!
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Thank you very much Hamaguri!
This guy has such a big dream, he would certainly be a great inspiration to younger skaters. Also big kudos to him to turned a horrible accident as a big lesson to improve himself rather than succumb to it. Go Yuzu!
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Thank you very much Hamaguri!
This guy has such a big dream, he would certainly be a great inspiration to younger skaters. Also big kudos to him to turned a horrible accident as a big lesson to improve himself rather than succumb to it. Go Yuzu!
Yes! He thinks things sincerely and deeply. It’s interesting that he desires wider range of work and role than figure skate coach. Go yuzu!
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Allow me to do the math
Parisienne Walkways
4T: 10.3
3A: 8.5*1.1 = 9.35
3Lz+3T: 10.1*1.1 = 11.11
TOTAL BV: 30.76
Chopin Balade no. 1
3A: 8.5
4T: 10.3*1.1 = 11.33
3Lz+3T: 10.3*1.1 = 11.33
TOTAL BV: 31.16
DIFFERENCE: 0.4 points
No, wait. I was talking about the tes BV not just the jumps
At Olympics, if I'm not mistaken, Yuzu had a level 3 on one of his spins. If he gets all level 4 (like at WTT), that's another 0.4 points more. ETA: Ops, gsyzf already answered about it
Anyway, I still agree that on paper +1/+2 seems already quite a huge improvement on PW World Record
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