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So seeing Kailani won both titles and apparently was advised to do so by OWI that explains things . Interestingly though ISU results are really still more important in senior you would hope
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So seeing Kailani won both titles and apparently was advised to do so by OWI that explains things . Interestingly though ISU results are really still more important in senior you would hope
Have people forgotten that a reason why Kailani is highlighted most out of the ladies' is because she is the only female recipient of OWIA funding for figure skating. Kailani and Brendan are the only 2 figure skaters who have it at the moment.
The OWIA every so often strategise and invest in particular winter disciplines (that is why Australia is strong in freestyle skiing and snowboard events. It's also why Australia was for a period of time good at short track [Bradbury] and Skeleton [Michelle Steele]). In comparison to other winter sports, OWIA has never really done it with figure skating (There are a few exceptions- early Joanne Carter, The Carrs, Anthony Liu). To be brutally honest the OWIA are not going to invest heavily unless/until they see that there is something worth investing their very few dollars towards (I think the AOC only give $1 million AUD to cover ALL winter sports).
Also keep in mind that the AOC are trying to find ways to improve Australia's Summer sports results (which were SO poor in London 2012). Australia want to be a top 5 Olympic Nation- and that always means more funding is required AND the amount of funding for each sport needs to be redistributed.
The OWIA every so often strategise and invest in particular winter disciplines (that is why Australia is strong in freestyle skiing and snowboard events. It's also why Australia was for a period of time good at short track [Bradbury] and Skeleton [Michelle Steele]). In comparison to other winter sports, OWIA has never really done it with figure skating (There are a few exceptions- early Joanne Carter, The Carrs, Anthony Liu). To be brutally honest the OWIA are not going to invest heavily unless/until they see that there is something worth investing their very few dollars towards (I think the AOC only give $1 million AUD to cover ALL winter sports).
Also keep in mind that the AOC are trying to find ways to improve Australia's Summer sports results (which were SO poor in London 2012). Australia want to be a top 5 Olympic Nation- and that always means more funding is required AND the amount of funding for each sport needs to be redistributed.
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Isn't Brooklee still number 1 ranked in Australia and higher placed in world rankings? It doesn't make sense that she would not be included in all the OWI stuff. Still beats me how a skater who didn't earn a place for Australia at YOG can be already included in this institute for 12 months or so. What is the criteria? Brooklee did this for Chantelle and beat her at Nebelhorn posting a PB but we hear nothing about the good things she's done for Australia. No disrespect to Kailani but I think she is having a charmed life very early in her career!
As Karne said YOG wasn't important because it doesn't count or something to marks but Chantelle claims it was a great experience and certainly from the media it seems a very big deal. Perhaps it was not a priority for Australia because Kailani wasn't age eligible!
Kailani is ahead of Brooklee in current season rankings in Australia. Kailani has a SP 31.79 at 2015 AFSC and FP 54.49 at NSW championships. Brooklee has a SP 28.94 at 2015 Nebelhorn Trophy and FP 50.18 also at 2015 Nebelhorn.
I heard Brooklee declined her OWI contract when offered.
Also in ISU Season World Rankings, Kailani is ranked 46 and Brooklee is ranked 67.
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So who is watching the NHK coverage? We got a cute moment at the start where instead of just launching into it, we had Brendan introducing it to us!
(The less cute moment will come later. Poor Brendan, I doubt he'll enjoy knowing his performances here are about to be on National telly...)
EDIT: Oh, it sounds like there's going to be a fluff piece after the break! Yes!
So Brendan is getting the mercy chack (thank goodness), but we got a cute interview instead.
- he really loves doing the quad and enjoys it
- his goal is to lay down two clean performances
- He wants to have an Olympics to be proud of
- he had only two days' notice that he was going to be at NHK :shocked:
(The less cute moment will come later. Poor Brendan, I doubt he'll enjoy knowing his performances here are about to be on National telly...)
EDIT: Oh, it sounds like there's going to be a fluff piece after the break! Yes!
So Brendan is getting the mercy chack (thank goodness), but we got a cute interview instead.
- he really loves doing the quad and enjoys it
- his goal is to lay down two clean performances
- He wants to have an Olympics to be proud of
- he had only two days' notice that he was going to be at NHK :shocked:
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I only just got home ten minutes ago so I missed that! But I'm recording it so I'll watch the beginning later.
And wow only two days notice? Did someone else drop out or something?
Oh yeah, have we been able to figure out who the commentator is? I actually thought it might be one of the guys I heard commentating on Plushy at the 1996 Junior Worlds on You Tube(which was held here in Australia of all places!), but I'm not sure.
Also, it's Seasons Best not Seasonal Best isn't it? Someone ought to tell that guy
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I only just got home ten minutes ago so I missed that! But I'm recording it so I'll watch the beginning later.
And wow only two days notice? Did someone else drop out or something?
Oh yeah, have we been able to figure out who the commentator is? I actually thought it might be one of the guys I heard commentating on Plushy at the 1996 Junior Worlds on You Tube(which was held here in Australia of all places!), but I'm not sure.
Also, it's Seasons Best not Seasonal Best isn't it? Someone ought to tell that guy
Brendan got Jason's spot, when Jason withdrew, but I guess the LOC for NHK had to do their homework quickly over who they could invite, who it was logistically best to invite etc, and all that turned into a last-minute invite. I thought he looked scattered at NHK and Nationals, that must have been jet-lag and mental-preparation hell for him.
Not sure about the guy, but he is getting better each week, I approve. Though I miss Belinda's super-informative commentary.
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I have no idea where you got that information but Brooklee is still the top senior ranked skater by over 4 points in Australia (unless this changes when the rankings are finally updated) and is ranked 37th in the world compared to Kailani at 56. We are talking about senior because that's who goes to the olympics which is why I presume OWI fund her! Brooklee is too old now to skate junior! Also ISU scores not national scores are much more important for worlds and olympics . Brooklee still reigns supreme in ISU senior scores!
You need to read the ISA-08 ISA season Ranking Policy on the ISA website. It establishes the criteria for current season rankings. This policy bases the scores achieved at 2015/2016 events namely the benchmark comps in Australia and all ISU international competitions in the 2015/2016 season. The current list on the ISA website is not current season as it includes events from 2014. (2014/2015 season) maybe it's more a document for an international pool list?
Kailani's ISU World Ranking is 46 and Brooklee 67. World Ranking is based on current season. ISU World Standing is different. Kailani is placed 56 and Brooklee 37. World Standing is based on the preceding 2 seasons and the current one.
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Why would anyone read a policy to determine rankings? Can you post link to world ranking because I'm going off ISU site ??
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I'm. Not sure current season is as relevant. Longevity ad consistency is more important season to season as all skaters have up and downs
Australian ISA Ranking policy
http://www.isa.org.au/images/Documents/High_Performance/ISA-08 ISA Season Ranking Policy.pdf
ISU World Ranking
http://www.isuresults.com/ws/wr/wrladies.htm
ISU communication that explains the ISU ranking/standing
http://static.isu.org/media/99358/1629-world-standing-sandp_id.pdf
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Thank you - from what I gather though the world standing is a more accurate picture over a longer period of time and is still used as basis for the major comps. There is no doubt at present Kailani is doing better and it would be good if our rankings were updated to reflect that. Season ranking would be affected by injury etc
Another great 90 minutes of figure skating coverage today.
Six weeks ago, they broadcasted Skate America. Now they pretty much caught up with the skating calendar.
Today it was the Ice Dance and Ladies at the GPF.
They are doing Mens and Pairs next week. Then Euros after that.
The commentator has improved so much over the last couple of weeks.
He did not misidentify any element today.
But someone needs to tell him that it's "Season's Best" not "Seasonal Best"
Six weeks ago, they broadcasted Skate America. Now they pretty much caught up with the skating calendar.
Today it was the Ice Dance and Ladies at the GPF.
They are doing Mens and Pairs next week. Then Euros after that.
The commentator has improved so much over the last couple of weeks.
He did not misidentify any element today.
But someone needs to tell him that it's "Season's Best" not "Seasonal Best"
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Almost. They won't be fully caught up until Four Continents.
I cant wait to hear what they will do for worlds?
Fingers crossed its going to be good coverage.
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According to ISA policy placements for 4CC are supposed to have been announced and published by 19 January. Why hasn't this happened ?
No idea. Im actually clueless about it.
But I will assume that we will have 2-3 men and 2 ladies.
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My guess is that the Four Continents team will be:
Kalaini Craine, Brooklee Han, Brendan Kerry and Andrew Dodds.
Interestingly, Katie Pasfield skated at the FMBA Trophy in Abu Dhabi this weekend and earned the minimum required TES for Four Continents.
She was skating in the junior ladies division, though, so that might count against her being nominated.
Team Australia was well represented at the event, too.
http://uaeisf.com/results/index.htm
The ISA site is really out of date in a few areas and very hard to navigate. The NSWISA site was a shocker as well trying to find information for Nationals. Links were scattered all over the place.
My guess is that they only have unpaid volunteers helping out from time to time with website updates.
Kalaini Craine, Brooklee Han, Brendan Kerry and Andrew Dodds.
Interestingly, Katie Pasfield skated at the FMBA Trophy in Abu Dhabi this weekend and earned the minimum required TES for Four Continents.
She was skating in the junior ladies division, though, so that might count against her being nominated.
Team Australia was well represented at the event, too.
http://uaeisf.com/results/index.htm
The ISA site is really out of date in a few areas and very hard to navigate. The NSWISA site was a shocker as well trying to find information for Nationals. Links were scattered all over the place.
My guess is that they only have unpaid volunteers helping out from time to time with website updates.
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