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2016 Team Challenge Cup - Day 1

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Day #1 - Friday, April 22 – Men’s and Ladies Singles –Short Program Competition


Friday, April 22
Day 1:
7:30 p.m. - Pacific Time
Opening Ceremony, Men's and Ladies SP
Competing for $132,000 in Team Prize money and a men’s and ladies bonus pool



Results Page
http://www.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2016/23073/results.html

Videos and results thread
http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sh...enge-Videos-and-Results&p=1425749#post1425749


  • Each Team will decide their entries in order of #1-#3 and submit them in closed envelopes
  • A “live” ceremony/event will announce the skating match-ups on Thursday, April 21st.
  • Skaters #1-3 will skate (3 teams) earning points in their flight for their team; Skaters will earn points for first, second or third (i.e. 12, 10, 8 points)
  • Three warm up groups, Men and Ladies will be mixed
    • Warm up Group I (#3 slotted Ladies and Men)
    • Warm up Group 2 (#2 slotted Ladies and Men)
    • Warm up Group 3 (#1 slotted Ladies and Men)
  • Singles Team Short Program Winners will be crowned based on the total team points, an aggregate of the points earned by a team in each flight
    • First Place – Team Prize Money $60,000 ($10,000/singles athlete)
    • Second Place – Team Prize Money $42,000 ($7,000/singles athlete)
    • Third Place – Team Prize Money $30,000 ($5,000/singles athlete)
*The first tie-breaker will be aggregate score of top Lady and top Man of each team in the tie; second tie-breaker is aggregate of second highest Lady and man followed by third highest.

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  • The highest scoring Individual TCC Short Program Skater in Ladies and Men will be recognized in arena and receive an additional $5,000 each.
 
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Results page for Team Challenge Cup:
Please check back later for initial starting orders.
http://www.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2016/23073/results.html​

ETA (on Apr 17), the Nippon TV page for TCC:

ETA (on Apr 18), per USFS:
Kovtun has withdrawn; Kolyada replaces him on Team Europe.

https://twitter.com/USFigureSkating/status/722083211946303489 (Apr 18)​


Start Order
​


ALL TIMES PACIFIC DAYLIGHT TIME​




[TH="class: date, colspan: 2"]Dates[/TH]
[TH="class: event"]Events[/TH]
[TH="class: stat"]Status[/TH]

[TD="class: date tRow bRow, bgcolor: #ABCDEF, align: left"]Fri Apr 22[/TD]
[TD="class: time tRow, bgcolor: #ABCDEF, align: right"]7:51 PM[/TD]
[TD="class: event tRow, bgcolor: #ABCDEF"]Men's Head to Head / Men's Group 1[/TD]
[TD="class: stat tRow, bgcolor: #ABCDEF"] Scoring [/TD]

[TH="class: place sort-numeric sort-default firstCol clickable sorted sorted-asc"]Place[/TH]
[TH="class: start sort-numeric clickable"]Start[/TH]
[TH="class: name sort-name clickable"]Name[/TH]
[TH="class: score sort-numeric clickable"]Score[/TH]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"]Mikhail KOLYADA, RUS[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #D1E6FB, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #B1D6FC"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #B1D6FC"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #B1D6FC"]Denis TEN, KAZ[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #B1D6FC, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"]Adam RIPPON, USA[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #D1E6FB, align: right"][/TD]

[TD="class: time, bgcolor: #ABCDEF, align: right"]8:12 PM[/TD]
[TD="class: event, bgcolor: #ABCDEF"]Ladies Head to Head / Ladies Group 1[/TD]
[TD="class: stat, bgcolor: #ABCDEF"] Scoring [/TD]

[TH="class: place sort-numeric sort-default firstCol clickable sorted sorted-asc"]Place[/TH]
[TH="class: start sort-numeric clickable"]Start[/TH]
[TH="class: name sort-name clickable"]Name[/TH]
[TH="class: score sort-numeric clickable"]Score[/TH]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"]Gracie GOLD, USA[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #FCD4ED, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #FDCAEA"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #FDCAEA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #FDCAEA"]Satoko MIYAHARA, JPN[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #FDCAEA, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"]Evgenia MEDVEDEVA, RUS[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #FCD4ED, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: time, bgcolor: #ABCDEF, align: right"]8:38 PM[/TD]
[TD="class: event, bgcolor: #ABCDEF"]Ladies Head to Head / Ladies Group 2[/TD]
[TD="class: stat, bgcolor: #ABCDEF"] Scoring [/TD]

[TH="class: place sort-numeric sort-default firstCol clickable sorted sorted-asc"]Place[/TH]
[TH="class: start sort-numeric clickable"]Start[/TH]
[TH="class: name sort-name clickable"]Name[/TH]
[TH="class: score sort-numeric clickable"]Score[/TH]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"]Rika HONGO, JPN[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #FCD4ED, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #FDCAEA"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #FDCAEA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #FDCAEA"]Gabrielle DALEMAN, CAN[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #FDCAEA, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"]Roberta RODEGHIERO, ITA[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #FCD4ED, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: time, bgcolor: #ABCDEF, align: right"]8:59 PM[/TD]
[TD="class: event, bgcolor: #ABCDEF"]Men's Head to Head / Men's Group 2[/TD]
[TD="class: stat, bgcolor: #ABCDEF"] Scoring [/TD]

[TH="class: place sort-numeric sort-default firstCol clickable sorted sorted-asc"]Place[/TH]
[TH="class: start sort-numeric clickable"]Start[/TH]
[TH="class: name sort-name clickable"]Name[/TH]
[TH="class: score sort-numeric clickable"]Score[/TH]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"]Michal BREZINA, CZE[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #D1E6FB, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #B1D6FC"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #B1D6FC"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #B1D6FC"]Shoma UNO, JPN[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #B1D6FC, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"]Nam NGUYEN, CAN[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #D1E6FB, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: time, bgcolor: #ABCDEF, align: right"]9:40 PM[/TD]
[TD="class: event, bgcolor: #ABCDEF"]Men's Head to Head / Men's Group 3[/TD]
[TD="class: stat, bgcolor: #ABCDEF"] Scoring [/TD]

[TH="class: place sort-numeric sort-default firstCol clickable sorted sorted-asc"]Place[/TH]
[TH="class: start sort-numeric clickable"]Start[/TH]
[TH="class: name sort-name clickable"]Name[/TH]
[TH="class: score sort-numeric clickable"]Score[/TH]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"]Boyang JIN, CHN[/TD]

[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #D1E6FB, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #B1D6FC"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #B1D6FC"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #B1D6FC"]Jason BROWN, USA[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #B1D6FC, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #D1E6FB"]Sergei VORONOV, RUS[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #D1E6FB, align: right"][/TD]



[TD="class: time bRow, bgcolor: #ABCDEF, align: right"]10:01 PM[/TD]
[TD="class: event bRow, bgcolor: #ABCDEF"]Ladies Head to Head / Ladies Group 3[/TD]
[TD="class: stat bRow, bgcolor: #ABCDEF"] Scoring [/TD]

[TH="class: place sort-numeric sort-default firstCol clickable sorted sorted-asc"]Place[/TH]
[TH="class: start sort-numeric clickable"]Start[/TH]
[TH="class: name sort-name clickable"]Name[/TH]
[TH="class: score sort-numeric clickable"]Score[/TH]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"]Elizabet TURSYNBAEVA, KAZ[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #FCD4ED, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #FDCAEA"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #FDCAEA"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #FDCAEA"]Ashley WAGNER, USA[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #FDCAEA, align: right"][/TD]


[TD="class: place, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"][/TD]
[TD="class: start, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: name, bgcolor: #FCD4ED"]Elena RADIONOVA, RUS[/TD]
[TD="class: score, bgcolor: #FCD4ED, align: right"][/TD]
 
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SP Flight #1
Men: Ten, Kolyada, Rippon
Ladies: Miyahara, Medvedeva, Gold

SP Flight #2
Uno, Brezina, Nguyen
Hongo, Rodeghiero, Daleman

SP Flight #3
Jin, Voronov, Brown
Tursynbaeva, Radionova, Wagner

ETA, disclaimer:

I don't know whether Flight #1 will skate first or last.
Last, I think?? But I am not sure.​
 
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golden411icecoverage said:
SP Flight #1
Men: Ten, Kolyada, Rippon
Ladies: Miyahara, Medvedeva, Gold

SP Flight #2
Uno, Brezina, Nguyen
Hongo, Rodeghiero, Daleman

SP Flight #3
Jin, Voronov, Brown
Tursynbaeva, Radionova, Wagner

ETA, disclaimer:

I don't know whether Flight #1 will skate first or last.
Last, I think?? But I am not sure.​
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Shizuka Arakowa said she chose Denis for #1 because he is most experienced. I thought that meant he would go first, but I guess it could also mean last.
 
GS Forum Staff said:
... Three warm up groups, Men and Ladies will be mixed
  • Warm up Group I (#3 slotted Ladies and Men)
  • Warm up Group 2 (#2 slotted Ladies and Men)
  • Warm up Group 3 (#1 slotted Ladies and Men)
...
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Tavi... said:
Shizuka Arakowa said she chose Denis for #1 because he is most experienced. I thought that meant he would go first, but I guess it could also mean last.
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The wording in the rules is making me uncertain as to whether what I am calling Flight #1 would compete first or last.

Normally, the group that competes last has skaters with the highest world standings ... and Miyahara, Medvedeva, and Gold all are in what I have called Flight #1 ... so it would make sense in a way that Flight #1 would skate last.

But again, I am not certain.
 
Right, I guess we'll find out soon enough, but it is silly that we don't already know, and that we don't know what order they'll skate within their groups. The thing is, if they're going by world rankings, Denis is 3, but Jason & Sergei Voronov are ranked 7 and 4, respectively, Shoma is 5, Kolyada is 24, Adam is 10, Brezina is 12, Nam is 14, and Boyang is 13. So it might be tough to figure out which group would skate first!
 
Tavi... said:
Katmari, thanks for this!

Quick question - Im guessing these times are EST and not local (Pacific) time - do you agree?
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The start order is now posted on icenetwork and the times listed do match up with the list from twitter:

http://www.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2016/23073/results.html

2016 Team Challenge Cup
04/22/2016 - 04/24/2016 (EDT)

7:51 PM Men's Head to Head / Men's Group 1 Start order
8:12 PM Ladies Head to Head / Ladies Group 1 Start order
8:38 PM Ladies Head to Head / Ladies Group 2 Start order
8:59 PM Men's Head to Head / Men's Group 2 Start order
9:40 PM Men's Head to Head / Men's Group 3 Start order
10:01 PM Ladies Head to Head / Ladies Group 3 Start order

To add confusion (so what else is new with this event), here's what icenetwork lists on the event page:

Scheduled (All Times Eastern)
Tonight at 10:30pm Men's and ladies short programs
Tomorrow at 4:30pm Pairs free skate, free dance
Tomorrow at 10:00pm Men's and ladies free skates
4/24/2016 6:00pm Exhibition

http://web.icenetwork.com/schedule/2016/04/2016_team_challenge_cup

The times would make sense if the result page was PDT instead of EDT ... :confused:
 
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I guess it makes sense showbiz-wise for this U.S. show to lead off with Gracie (even if she has to be sacrificed to Evgenia), and close with queen-for-a-day Wagner (who could conceivably win her flight, although the smart money is on Elena), and Jason (Jin should crush him, but home-cookin PCSs may save the day).
 
Isn't home-cooking of PCS a myth? I would really like someone to present statistical or other evidence that it exists.

This is a strange competition imo. Except for the money is it taken seriously?


The Japan link is geo blocked in the US
 
katmari said:
The start order is now posted on icenetwork and the times listed do match up with the list from twitter:

http://www.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2016/23073/results.html

2016 Team Challenge Cup
04/22/2016 - 04/24/2016 (EDT)

7:51 PM Men's Head to Head / Men's Group 1 Start order
8:12 PM Ladies Head to Head / Ladies Group 1 Start order
8:38 PM Ladies Head to Head / Ladies Group 2 Start order
8:59 PM Men's Head to Head / Men's Group 2 Start order
9:40 PM Men's Head to Head / Men's Group 3 Start order
10:01 PM Ladies Head to Head / Ladies Group 3 Start order

To add confusion (so what else is new with this event), here's what icenetwork lists on the event page:

Scheduled (All Times Eastern)
Tonight at 10:30pm Men's and ladies short programs
Tomorrow at 4:30pm Pairs free skate, free dance
Tomorrow at 10:00pm Men's and ladies free skates
4/24/2016 6:00pm Exhibition

http://web.icenetwork.com/schedule/2016/04/2016_team_challenge_cup

The times would make sense if the result page was PDT instead of EDT ... :confused:
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Well I asked them via Twitter to confirm if listed times are EDT or PDT & will let u know. Also wanted to mention that tthe start order here is totally different than the breakdown in your post #10 - it shows the group of men as Jin, Brown & Voronov in that order followed by group 3 ladies, with Radionova, not Ashley, as final skater.
 
Tavi... said:
Well I asked them via Twitter to confirm if listed times are EDT or PDT & will let u know. Also wanted to mention that tthe start order here is totally different than the breakdown in your post #10 - it shows the group of men as Jin, Brown & Voronov in that order followed by group 3 ladies, with Radionova, not Ashley, as final skater.
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:agree:

So much for it being a quick question. :laugh: Is is wrong that I think the random tweet is more accurate than icenetwork?
 
Tavi... said:
Well I asked them via Twitter to confirm if listed times are EDT or PDT & will let u know. Also wanted to mention that tthe start order here is totally different than the breakdown in your post #10 - it shows the group of men as Jin, Brown & Voronov in that order followed by group 3 ladies, with Radionova, not Ashley, as final skater.
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And even if the USFS leaderboard page did say PDT instead of EDT, its times would not in fact match the times in the unofficial tweet in post #10.

katmari said:
.... :laugh: Is is wrong that I think the random tweet is more accurate than icenetwork?
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My two cents are that the random tweet came from a person who sometimes has not seemed very well informed (IMO) during past comps.

(In my estimation, his reliability would be a far cry from Mrs. P's, for example.)
 
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