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The Brian blame game, again? Geez, we've got way too much time on our hands.
I agree, it's annoying to see that some people keep doing that. It's like they think Yuzu is a kid incapable of expressing or/ and making decisions for himself.
I personally hope he will stay with Brian until he retires.

More interesting matter is the new programs. I'm especially interested to see what JButtle has in store for him. Considering he has done PW and Chopin, both amazing and very different style, we're in for something interesting. 😄👍
 
I agree. I don't trust Brian

I agree, it's annoying to see that some people keep doing that. It's like they think Yuzu is a kid incapable of expressing or/ and making decisions for himself.
I personally hope he will stay with Brian until he retires.

More interesting matter is the new programs. I'm especially interested to see what JButtle has in store for him. Considering he has done PW and Chopin, both amazing and very different style, we're in for something interesting. ����

Some fans trust Brian, others don't. We have different views and don't have to agree with it. what matters is our views don't affect Brian and his way at all. Further, I think yuzu is not a stupid guy and will deal with the problems. :laugh:

I'm also very interested in Jeff's new program! To see his programs at faoi, I realized how many ideas he have with choreography! Jeff is truly wonderful:)
 
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More interesting matter is the new programs. I'm especially interested to see what JButtle has in store for him. Considering he has done PW and Chopin, both amazing and very different style, we're in for something interesting. 😄👍

I'm glad Buttle is doing a program for Yuzu again, he's capable of creating something different evey time. Do we know if he's doing SP or LP? My worry is that if Shae-Lynn does the LP again, it'll be too similar to his previous two (I love both of her work but I still worry) so if Shae-Lynn did SP and Buttle LP, it'd probably be both great and different. On the other hand Buttle's choreo combined with Yuzuru's jumps might be too difficult for Yuzu to pull off... :think:
 
I'm glad Buttle is doing a program for Yuzu again, he's capable of creating something different evey time. Do we know if he's doing SP or LP? My worry is that if Shae-Lynn does the LP again, it'll be too similar to his previous two (I love both of her work but I still worry) so if Shae-Lynn did SP and Buttle LP, it'd probably be both great and different. On the other hand Buttle's choreo combined with Yuzuru's jumps might be too difficult for Yuzu to pull off... :think:

I don't think Shae-Lynn choreo is any easier than Buttle, Shae is usually well known for her packed transitions and difficult footwork in programs, while Jeff for upper body choreo. Seimei was the most difficult program in history in terms of tech+choreo, also used entire body while executing steps, turns and sequences, It is deadly tiring. POTO had never been finished because of well known reasons. I have utmost trust for both of them, also It would have been be interesting to switch them, Shae for upbeat SP and Jeff for classical LP. maybe in the future ...:)
 
I'm glad Buttle is doing a program for Yuzu again, he's capable of creating something different evey time. Do we know if he's doing SP or LP? My worry is that if Shae-Lynn does the LP again, it'll be too similar to his previous two (I love both of her work but I still worry)

Although, I would love to see Buttle do a long for Yuzu, I feel that both choreographers have display different styles in the SP and LP from the two programs they have choreographed each...You can't get much farther apart when it comes to PW and Chopin, and having a strong warhorse such as POTO against a soundtrack like SEIMEI is a complete contrast! They both have created masterpieces multiple times, so there is no need to worry! :agree:

EDIT: but to my understanding, I think that Yuzu brought both those pieces of music to shae to choreograph, so I'm sure he will make a good decision on music (please don't be a warhorse...) and shae will bring excellent choreo again! (I mean, I thank her for the hydroblade and crossrolls everyday! XD)
 
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EDIT: but to my understanding, I think that Yuzu brought both those pieces of music to shae to choreograph, so I'm sure he will make a good decision on music (please don't be a warhorse...) and shae will bring excellent choreo again! (I mean, I thank her for the hydroblade and crossrolls everyday! XD)


:laugh: So do I! Yuzu should get a fun crowd-pleasing ex program from Shae-Lynn.

Good points everybody. I think the greatest factor that will allow the new programs to be different from old ones will be the music anyway so as long as Yuzuru himself switches it up as bit either choreographer will do.
 
The Brian blame game, again? Geez, we've got way too much time on our hands.

Well, there is a reason why some people have a bad feeling about Brian Orser. There is something wrong and my instinct never fails me :confused2:
I think Yuzuru is facing a dilemma
 
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You are right. I think that for Skate Canada in Mississauga, we can organize ourselves quite well without spending more money on a tour. Mississauga is a city just outside Toronto, with lots of buildings offices and industries, so there are many hotels and highways. I used to go there for meetings, so I don't know much about public transportation. But there are also bus services. In nighttime, we can try to have a taxicab or uber.
For Autumn Classic in Montreal, if Yuzuru wil be there, it is easier to go, at least for me because I live in Montreal, there is no tour available because they can not provide the ticket. We must buy our own ticket on the day of the competition. The arena is Sportsplexe in Pierrefonds, in the west of Montreal. There is public transportation with bus and metro, also hotels and restaurants are not as expensive as in Boston. So it will be nice to go if Yuzu will be there too.
We have to wait and see.
When I mentioned I was coming for Skate Canada, the Fairfield Inn & Suites in Mississauga (2 miles from Hershey Arena) told me that SC has reserved a block of rooms there for the skaters. Even though I'm just coming as a spectator, they gave me SC's reduced rate. The hotel doesn't have an airport shuttle; they said it's possible they'll arrange an Arena shuttle for the competition, it's too early for them to know.
 
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Gosh, the army of self-appointed armchair experts who know what dilemmas Yuzuru faces or what he has to do is back. The long off-season with barely any news is driving people mad.
 
Well, there is a reason why some people have a bad feeling about Brian Orser. There is something wrong and my instinct never fails me :confused2:
I think Yuzuru is facing a dilemma
Lol. The only dilemma Yuzu faced was whether or not going to the last FaOI. And thanks goodness, he listened to Brian and decided not to go. :laugh:

Mm, some warhorses can be worth the risk of doing them. I mean, POTO wasn't bad (tho I don't want to hear it ever again if possible, too much of it lol! :laugh: ) and neither were R&J. However, I do agree that avoiding warhorses is much more interesting. But we'll know soon enough of his choices. I'm sure, whatever it is, it will be very interesting to watch. :)

I wonder if he'll do a competition prior to GP season this time, considering he lost some training time due to his injury...
 
Can we keep this thread positive? It has been 4 month revisiting and repeating what happened in Boston and the case "Brian Dilemma". Everyone was already blamed and judged: Brian, Shirota, "his weak mental," even "Supernatural coincidences." What I see Yuzuru is not a kid, he has plenty of people around and he has evident respect and trust in his coaching team. If it wasn't so, he wouldn't have chosen to go to Canada to heal his injury and train there before Boston back in March. As we see he is still remaining there. It is not because he has no place to go better than Cricket, if he or his team, Shirota ...everyone ..thought there is something wrong he should have left already, because no one wants to train in an uncomfortable environment daily even if they can provide better facilities. Have you seen in Boston airport Orser accompanied solely Yuzuru ..then what about this? If during training (OP) something was not there I am sure it is already solved. Everyone has misunderstandings and flaws, sometimes I can't even get my kid and her feelings. It happens to everyone. As Brian said after Boston that he will have an "armchair conversation" with Yuzu. I am not a mod and I don't have the right to advice, but as this is a fan thread, all we should do is keep the thread positive and send good vibes. In my imagination Yuzu's fans should be the happiest fans in the world who get to cheer for an incredibly talented person, a creator of masterpieces but sometimes they sound the most miserable (sorry) I'd prefer to have faith. Yuzuru has already put Boston chapter in the past as he said in Aoi honoo2 last chapter, He still has the sense of achievement more than "kuyashi" after this season, also he is always "kuyashi" . You will see this "senses" " instincts" "feelings" about "Brian Dilemma" season 1 episode 1000 will be forever forgotten and changed with joy once he wins major title or breaks record again :biggrin:
 
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Well, there is a reason why some people have a bad feeling about Brian Orser. There is something wrong and my instinct never fails me :confused2:
I think Yuzuru is facing a dilemma

:rolleye:

Mm, some warhorses can be worth the risk of doing them. I mean, POTO wasn't bad (tho I don't want to hear it ever again if possible, too much of it lol! :laugh: ) and neither were R&J. However, I do agree that avoiding warhorses is much more interesting. But we'll know soon enough of his choices. I'm sure, whatever it is, it will be very interesting to watch. :)

::cough::One-Winged Angel::cough:: Totally like a warhorse but not a warhorse and Yuzu'd get a chance to play evil. ::cough:: I can dream, right?:laugh:
 
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::cough::One-Winged Angel::cough:: Totally like a warhorse but not a warhorse and Yuzu'd get a chance to play evil. ::cough:: I can dream, right?:laugh:
;)

I'll have to look up OWA because I don't know (or remember) what it is, lol! :laugh:
I wonder if Jeff is back in Canada, now.
 
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I'll have to look up OWA because I don't know (or remember) what it is, lol! :laugh:
I wonder if Jeff is back in Canada, now.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B_MW65XxS7s

It's the Carmina Burana of video games, the villain's theme, and it's got about hundred versions to choose from. Musically, right up Yuzu's alley. ::sigh:: I wish video game music was better known because it great fit for figure skating.
 
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I hope Yuzu or his team reveal one of his music choices soon so we can start wondering about the costumes :biggrin: do you think he will have time to get an EX ready? Or will he use one of his previous programs? Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Chopin or Seimei at the Galas, even though a new program would be nice.
 
Yuzu CAN OVERCOME it if properly supported, I trust him so much, but he can't waste tons of physical energy and precious mental focus like he did. Mrs Shirota had regrets about it , but honestly I don't think it's her job to prevent Yuzu from overtraining , nor to replay to Mr.Carrol, reply that was necessary in my opinion. Is this the future?

The emphasis on Yuzu's injury is excessive and actually used to address the responsability on him ( he learned the lesson, he's not a kid anymore etc...). I agree with Sidney Rose about the fact no sports journalist “ thought to seriously question his coaching team as to what the hell went wrong “.

He is more harshly judged in certain countries, e.g. Canada and USA (he is always held down in Canada and his rivals will be very over-scored in USA) and he also gets less support in certain countries. 2/3 (or 70%) of the tickets of skating competitions are reserved for local residents. No matter how many foreign fans yuzu can bring to the competition, they won't fill the stadium unless he has a big fan base in the host country. There are certain skating community in certain region/countries that don't like him as much as the skating community in other countries. That would put more pressure on him. (It's not coincidence that it's harder for him to perform well and score well in certain countries when he is not favored by the skating community in those countries.) There are many factors that impact his performance. But external factors impact his performance more than his physical condition. What impacts his performance and how his team should handle his physical and mental conditions are two separate issues. I won't comment on the latter because that seems like a sensitive issue.
 
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