Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season

[Plumededragon]

Maybe he needs to find a coach who can help him with this issue. It's ridiculous that someone at his level
would not be prepared for such a scenario. That is a major coaching failure.

Maybe he should also get a coach for preparing his meals, another one for polishing his skate blades, oh, and, of course another coach to advise him on the colors of his costumes?
It's amazing the amount of stupidity I read on this forum lately.

 

[giulia95]

When he drew turns for the FP at Worlds and he got 2nd to skate, he thought, “ah, I, am finished.” Because he has not had much experience of having good results with 2nd to skate. He has not yet found a good rhythm for skating 2nd.

I don't know what 's going on... The Yuzu I've been knowing since 2010 never says I'm finished till he's able to breath. The Yuzu I know is the one who who never gives up no matter what (and risked his life at 2014 COC , then Farris comes to my mind immediately ) .

 

[giulia95]

Maybe he should also get a coach for preparing his meals, another one for polishing his skate blades, oh, and, of course another coach to advise him on the colors of his costumes?
It's amazing the amount of stupidity I read on this forum lately.

:thumbsup:

You forgot to add Yuzu should also get a coach who's not that busy during Worlds

 

[Plumededragon]

When he drew turns for the FP at Worlds and he got 2nd to skate, he thought, “ah, I, am finished.” Because he has not had much experience of having good results with 2nd to skate. He has not yet found a good rhythm for skating 2nd.

I don't know what 's going on... The Yuzu I've been knowing since 2010 never says I'm finished till he's able to breath. The Yuzu I know is the one who who never gives up no matter what (and risked his life at 2014 COC , then Farris comes to my mind immediately ) .

Have you read everything? I am not surprised he thought this. He still fought the best he could, but he was not in a good shape to begin with. Yuzu is human, there's limit to what he can do, and he learned that from previous experiences.
I'm not worried, it was in the past and he'll start a new season with knowledges on what went wrong and learning from it.

:thumbsup:

You forgot to add Yuzu should also get a coach who's not that busy during Worlds

Lol, yes, and another one to make sure his costume is zipped up correctly before going on the ice for warm-up, and make sure the timer is set right for breakfast time. Important!

 

[Fayruza]

Anti-Brian army is out again?

 

[Plumededragon]

Anti-Brian army is out again?

Seem like it. Awesome, eh? Still whining after so long.

 

[Pamigena]

I'm gonna go easy on my keyboard and just wear out the smiley

 

[Hanmgse]

Let's keep things in a civilized way even if we don't agree with each other

 

[Plumededragon]

Let's keep things in a civilized way even if we don't agree with each other

Ok, I apologize. not taking back what I said, but I'll also try to limit myself with the laugh smiley.

Some people pointed that Yuzu lost some weight. That is true but didn't he say once that he tend to loose some when he's not training for long periods? :think: Considering his injury, it's not surprising. At least, he's back training so he'll be back in shape by the time competitions start.

 

[Fayruza]

 

[Rissa]

Be still my heart. 4Lo in both programs! :shocked::eeking:
Anyway I saw someone here before list out the possible layout if he would do 3 types of quad and insert an extra triple (and lose the 2t). Apparently it requires him to do 3Lz3Lo. Considering his 3Lz is not really dependable lately I wonder will this really be a good idea hahaha I won't lie though, I would really want to see him landing those 4Lo in competition. Not necessarily for extra score/WR/BV etc. I just want to see him do it so I could freak out over it

How about a 3A-3lo? Would that be doable?

 

[Fayruza]

How about a 3A-3lo? Would that be doable?

I was wondering the same!

 

[PatricksGaze]

When he drew turns for the FP at Worlds and he got 2nd to skate, he thought, “ah, I, am finished.” Because he has not had much experience of having good results with 2nd to skate. He has not yet found a good rhythm for skating 2nd.

I don't know what 's going on... The Yuzu I've been knowing since 2010 never says I'm finished till he's able to breath. The Yuzu I know is the one who who never gives up no matter what (and risked his life at 2014 COC , then Farris comes to my mind immediately ) .

Actually he did use to say "Ahh I'm doomed (laugh)" before his performances. It was reported in the article featuring his 2014-2015 season which was aired in summer. It said he would sign, say this before the game but then go onto the ice and endure any hardship nonetheless.
I hope the fact that he's a human is not too shocking for you though.

 

[giulia95]

Actually he did use to say "Ahh I'm doomed (laugh)" before his performances. It was reported in the article featuring his 2014-2015 season which was aired in summer. It said he would sign, say this before the game but then go onto the ice and endure any hardship nonetheless.
I hope the fact that he's a human is not too shocking for you though.

Correct! When I was in Nice and I saw Yuzu skating R&J 1 in front of me , I thought he was a gift from the sky!

 

[ranran]

I haven't been to thread much (as I'm too busy > < and lately sick with infections > <)

But I would like to say, what I love about Yuzuru when I first found out about him is his loyalty to his coach. He only left Nanami Abe when he knew it is time to to the next level but not whenever he is unsatisfied with her coaching or questioning her ability everytime he didn't do too well, instead he analyze it himself and mostly blame it on his weakness. This humble attitude regardless if people feels it's too self-punishing, is what makes him consistent with his trajectory in his career. If Yuzuru feels he should change his coach everytime something negative happened I don't think he will be where he is now. He would be jumping coach and missing a stable skill development. He is talented he can go to any coach with the kind of discipline he has, but understands that his coaches are also human who sometimes make mistake just like he would, but what's important is they are able to create a stable dynamic relationship to work out through hardship and learn from mistake. If Yuzuru felt he couldn't connect with Brian he would have left when he first reach Canada and said he didn't like Brian method of teaching him back basic skills. But Yuzuru manage to work through his stubbornness and accept Brian's way first and look at him now. People can't expect this kind of development over the years is all sparkly and victory, there is trust and willingness on both parties involve. If Yuzuru didn't feel right with Brian anymore it is him that will know, not the fans or people who doesn't even know how is the daily training and environment where Brian and Yuzu work.

That got too long... sorry

But I really wish Yuzuru a stable recovery and reading his stories about the real condition really makes me cringe and his stubbornness is just wow~ but looking at this guy who is always trying to overcome his weakness and learn from his mistake really makes me want to support him more medals or not.

 

[Rissa]

I was wondering the same!

There's an extra half revolution involved but 3lz-3lo looks so hellishly difficult (but also amazingly cool and awesome) that for Yuzuru a 3A-3lo might actually be easier.

 

[Fayruza]

There's an extra half revolution involved but 3lz-3lo looks so hellishly difficult (but also amazingly cool and awesome) that for Yuzuru a 3A-3lo might actually be easier.

Given that 3A is his forte, I wonder if he ever thought about it.
But then has he ever jumped a second 3L combination?

 

[mcq]

How about a 3A-3lo? Would that be doable?

Interesting question. I assume it is doable. But if he does 3A3Lo he can't do 2 3Lz because of zayak rule so the 3Lo needs to be with the 3Lz.
Or he can do 3Lz1Lo3S instead of 3lz3Lo so his layout could be : 4Lo 4T 3F // 4S3T 3lz1Lo3S 3A3Lo 3Lz 3A
I am not sure how feasible 3A3Lo would be though this just seems like a very uncommon combo but it does seem doable. However, I am not sure it worth the risk. doing 3A3T and 3lz3Lo seems to be more reasonable and less risky than 3A3Lo + 3Lz1Lo3S. :think:

Given that 3A is his forte, I wonder if he ever thought about it.
But then has he ever jumped a second 3L combunation?

I saw someone mentioned that he tried 3Lz3Lo combo a few times before during practice runthrough before competitions. Not sure about the success rate/quality

 

[Rissa]

Given that 3A is his forte, I wonder if he ever thought about it.
But then has he ever jumped a second 3L combunation?

Some people here said he practiced -3lo combination last season, it was on practice videos from, eh, I'm not sure, Autumn Classic? Worlds? both? but I don't know which combination it was and apparently he fell on it. But if this was something fairly new he was trying, then falling wouldn't have meant it was impossible for him.

 

[Rissa]

Interesting question. I assume it is doable. But if he does 3A3Lo he can't do 2 3Lz because of zayak rule so the 3Lo needs to be with the 3Lz.
Or he can do 3Lz3T instead of 3lz3Lo so his layout could be : 4Lo 4T 3F // 4S3T 3lz3T 3A3Lo 3Lz 3A
I am not sure how feasible 3A3Lo would be though this just seems like a very uncommon combo but it does seem doable. However, I am not sure it worth the risk. doing 3A3T and 3lz3Lo seems to be more reasonable and less risky than 3A3Lo + 3Lz3T. :think:

He could do all quads solo. That's where the great advantage of having 3 different quads lies. E.g: 4lo, 4T, 3F // 4S, 3Lz-3T, 3A-3Lo, 3A-1lo-3S, 3Lz. Hell of a layout it would be. If he wanted, he could later switch 3lz-3t to 4S-3t and have 4 quads/7 triples. Provided the effort wouldn't kill him and he'd actually achive stability with it which looks like a tall order.

That said, yeah, I don't know how feasible 3A-3Lo vs. 3Lz-3Lo is either, I was just wondering if in Yuzuru's specific case it would actually make sense since he's partial to both 3 axels and loops.