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Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season

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Meoima said:
She says Yuzuru's head look down too much but personally I never noticed that's an issue. Maybe because we watch him through video and it's always eye level?
What about fans who have seen him live at Boston? Did Yuzuru looked down too much, even in his Chopin SP?
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Definitely not. I was out of it during the LP so I don't remember much to be honest lol....only my feelings. He does look down sometimes (mainly during his FS's) but its not enough to say that its excessive IMO. :confused2:
 
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On a side note, I found some pictures of the Yuzu ad's I saw during my trip to Japan few months ago :p I didn't get any pictures of the blood donation ad's but he looked really good in it :cool:

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I saw him quite a bit in Kyoto, but surprisingly none of Mao, even in Tokyo :confused: I saw Nobu Oda alot though lol. He was in this commercial where he skated on a frying pan or something :laugh:
 
Meoima said:
She says Yuzuru's head look down too much but personally I never noticed that's an issue. Maybe because we watch him through video and it's always eye level?
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Well, I wasn't in Boston and watched it on TV and I had the same impression during his FS. But perhaps he was trying to avoid nasty ice conditions during his skate, knowing that he was in pain at that time, maybe he just was a bit cautious.
 
Sorrento said:
Well, I wasn't in Boston and watched it on TV and I had the same impression during his FS. But perhaps he was trying to avoid nasty ice conditions during his skate, knowing that he was in pain at that time, maybe he just was a bit cautious.
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Well in the FS he was really down, so I think it might be the case. In the SP I think his head was alright.
 
Meoima said:
Well in the FS he was really down, so I think it might be the case. In the SP I think his head was alright.
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I think that in Seimei he does tend to look down quite a bit, and it was actually something I've wondered about since it was never something I noticed in his skating before last season. It made me wonder if this was a choreographic choice to produce impact when he snaps his head up, for me it was more noticeable on video than when I watched him live, but I do like it better when he looks up more, mainly for the sake of video recordings and hope we see that this season. I also remember thinking the same thing about Requiem at Worlds in particular as that is the version of it I watched the most. Again, it wasn't something I noticed when watching in person, but became a bit more noticeable on video when I re-watched. Chopin on the other hand, seems fine to me.
 
alia jackson said:
Oda talking/explaining about Yuzu's programs. Hope someone will help to translate this soon :). I prefer to listen to Oda than TSL :agree2:


Another fan creation, this one got everything...chest, frills, purple :biggrin:

Photos from this magazine: #1 :love:, #2. Shared by Echo Cheng @YHIFG FB

“My favorite skaters are Yuna Kim and Yuzu.” - Jun-Hwan Cha
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Oda was not actually explaining his programs, but actually talking mostly about Yuzuru hating to lose and about what adding the quadruple loop jump means (what the loop jump is, why it's difficult, results in more quads in programs overall). There was a snippet of Yuzuru's press conference which I hadn't seen before though (although I cannot say that I have watched all videos so perhaps it has appeared before), in which Yuzuru talked about how although Parisienne Walkways SP was also rock, this Prince SP is a different type of rock and so a different type of challenge.
 
^^ Thank you Caustica.

Angelica @YHIFG fb quick & brief translation on Oda-san's commentary.
- He gave the 1st keyword about Yuzu, shown on the display screen. "Hate to lose". He said this is Yuzu's character from young and it's what fuels him to keep improving. Oda said he wishes so much to have this trait himself. (laughter)
- They looked at the base value for 4T, 4S and 4Loop. Then Oda showed how to do those 3 jumps, the difference in take-off.
- And he said the 4Lo is very hard to do because if you enter with too much strength to do the rotations, the edge of the blade will slip at the take-off and you will fall. (I think this is what he means.) Yuzu's 4Lo is perfect, very beautiful and he makes it look so easy.
- Oda also said last season, Boyang Jin also had 4 quads in FP, but Yuzu is amazing because of all the difficult steps he puts with his jumps and he is very good at all the other elements as well, like spins and steps, and expression as well. That is why he could get that world record score.
 
Regarding the head looking down issue I think it's noticeable but not annoying for me in particular, however I can see how it can annoy some people but more if you want to be picky.
I don't think it's anything related with looking to see the ice conditions, he used to do it more when he was younger actually but didn't drop the habit altogether yet. As someone has said it's indeed more noticeable in the LP, and I think it's a posture/tiredness related issue but that has been reduced over the years given his improvement in his posture and stamina. :yes:
 
After watching Yuzu's 4Lo (no, what do you mean I've been watching the news clips endlessly? I would never do that!) I wonder if he is being just too tough on himself when he says the success rate of it it's 50%. It looks so much better now than it did even last season, and of course his trademark spread eagle TR. I wonder if it would be possible to have that ease and difficulty in the entrance and exit if the landing rate was that low (relatively speaking), and well, we know that he is too hard on himself sometimes. I guess what I'm trying to say is, should I be THAT worried (because it's impossible not to worry) about the 4Lo becoming a second 4S (up until last season)? Or that he will do better with it?
 
xibsuarz said:
After watching Yuzu's 4Lo (no, what do you mean I've been watching the news clips endlessly? I would never do that!) I wonder if he is being just too tough on himself when he says the success rate of it it's 50%. It looks so much better now than it did even last season, and of course his trademark spread eagle TR. I wonder if it would be possible to have that ease and difficulty in the entrance and exit if the landing rate was that low (relatively speaking), and well, we know that he is too hard on himself sometimes. I guess what I'm trying to say is, should I be THAT worried (because it's impossible not to worry) about the 4Lo becoming a second 4S (up until last season)? Or that he will do better with it?
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One more week and we will know.
 
xibsuarz said:
After watching Yuzu's 4Lo (no, what do you mean I've been watching the news clips endlessly? I would never do that!) I wonder if he is being just too tough on himself when he says the success rate of it it's 50%. It looks so much better now than it did even last season, and of course his trademark spread eagle TR. I wonder if it would be possible to have that ease and difficulty in the entrance and exit if the landing rate was that low (relatively speaking), and well, we know that he is too hard on himself sometimes. I guess what I'm trying to say is, should I be THAT worried (because it's impossible not to worry) about the 4Lo becoming a second 4S (up until last season)? Or that he will do better with it?
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Since he said this about the success rate, the expectation for him to land it will be lower I think. It's benefitial for him, less stress then.
 
xibsuarz said:
After watching Yuzu's 4Lo (no, what do you mean I've been watching the news clips endlessly? I would never do that!) I wonder if he is being just too tough on himself when he says the success rate of it it's 50%. It looks so much better now than it did even last season, and of course his trademark spread eagle TR. I wonder if it would be possible to have that ease and difficulty in the entrance and exit if the landing rate was that low (relatively speaking), and well, we know that he is too hard on himself sometimes. I guess what I'm trying to say is, should I be THAT worried (because it's impossible not to worry) about the 4Lo becoming a second 4S (up until last season)? Or that he will do better with it?
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I thought the same. Orser said the success rate is 70% :confused2:
 
xibsuarz said:
After watching Yuzu's 4Lo (no, what do you mean I've been watching the news clips endlessly? I would never do that!) I wonder if he is being just too tough on himself when he says the success rate of it it's 50%. It looks so much better now than it did even last season, and of course his trademark spread eagle TR. I wonder if it would be possible to have that ease and difficulty in the entrance and exit if the landing rate was that low (relatively speaking), and well, we know that he is too hard on himself sometimes. I guess what I'm trying to say is, should I be THAT worried (because it's impossible not to worry) about the 4Lo becoming a second 4S (up until last season)? Or that he will do better with it?
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Well outside of runthrough he landed 7 out of 10 but before that he popped it 3 times. Within runthrough he land once in SP and once in FP, then fell once in SP, so it depends on how you look at it. It does look like the overall success rate is 70% but if you count the pops too it is roughly 50-60%, so i think it is a matter of perspective. (This is solely based on the information on his open practice day)

Success rate during practice doesn't always mean success rate during competiton, Didn't Yuzuru said during olympic season the success rate of his 4S is about 70-90% but he barely land them in competition? But at the same time, I don't know, I have this feeling he would not struggle with 4Lo as much as 4S during 12/13 and 13/14 seasons. :think:
 
I think Yuzu is a perfectionist so success rate for him means quad landed with a positive GOE (GOE +3 is what he aims for). That could explain his idea about it.
 
alia jackson said:
Oda talking/explaining about Yuzu's programs. Hope someone will help to translate this soon :). I prefer to listen to Oda than TSL :agree2:
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What impressed me in Oda-san's comment was that Yuzuru really respects younger skaters. Of course they are improving by watching and learning from Yuzuru's skating including quads. But Yuzuru always says to Oda-san, e.g. in shows, that young skaters are great, like "That skater is really good. Much better than me when I was his age."

Oda-san continues, because Yuzuru appreciates young skaters, he must be thinking that he cannot be as he is now in order to win over them. It may be one reason of his challenging of 4Lo. You know, he hates to lose :biggrin:

I remember Yuzuru told Boyang that he liked Boyang's 4Lz at NHK. It is really impressive that Yuzuru always respects strong rivals, whether younger or older :agree2:
 
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SuzyQ said:
What impressed me in Oda-san's comment was that Yuzuru really respects younger skaters. Of course they are improving by watching and learning from Yuzuru's skating including quads. But Yuzuru always says to Oda-san, e.g. in shows, that young skaters are great, like "That skater is really good. Much better than me when I was his age."

Oda-san continues, because Yuzuru appreciates young skaters, he must be thinking that he cannot be as he is now in order to win over them. It may be one reason of his challenging of 4Lo. You know, he hates to loose :biggrin:

I remember Yuzuru told Boyang that he liked Boyang's 4Lz at NHK. It is really impressive that Yuzuru always respects strong rivals, whether younger or older :agree2:
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Thank you for this precious information :) I really think it's an amazing trait of his. Especially it amazes me how he has this trait coexisting with his hate-to-lose spirit. I'm myself a sore loser pretty much, always comparing my abilities to that of other people to know where I lack, and it used to be somewhat hard for me to accept how some people are better than me at this and that and not to feel burning fire inside. Now I feel respect, I grew up though lol. But yeah, that's why I really respect that in him.
 
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