38. Nebelhorn-Trophy 2006 from 28.9. - 1.10.2006

[Sandra_persch]

The German Skating Federation has published the announcement on the web page

http://www.eislauf-union.de/NebelhornTrophy2006.html

Closing date for entries is August 4th.

 

[Mathman]

I believe this is the event where the ISU is planning to use a double panel of judges, one for tech GOEs and one for component scores. It will be interesting to see how the experiment comes out.

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

That's good news MM. I just hope the PCS judges are not influenced by big jumps as being great choreography.

No listing of skates in that complicated link.

Joe

 

[Nigel]

I believe this is the event where the ISU is planning to use a double panel of judges, one for tech GOEs and one for component scores. It will be interesting to see how the experiment comes out.

Hopefully this will help develop the system even further, preventing the use of program component scores as a way to elevate a skater's scores over another skater's scores when there is bias by a particular judge. The CoP still has a way to go, with continuing refinement, at least until 2010. I think with each season of competition, new areas of debate will come to light. And with the trial of two separate panels....a tech GOE and a component score panel, perhaps the effect of bias can be diminished even further (not necessarily eliminated).

 

[Sylvia]

Added on USFS' International Assignments page today (Aug. 9) for Nebelhorn Trophy -- Team USA so far:
Bebe Liang, Katy Taylor, Derrick Delmore, Parker Pennington, Slattery/Lee in dance and Pairs TBA.

 

[Mathman]

Katy Taylor has a busy schedule. Nebelhorn Sept. 29, Skate America Oct. 26., and Skate Canada Nov. 2.

Bebe also has two senior Grand Prix assignments (Cup of China and NHK).

 

[Mathman]

I just checked out the site. It has the list of winners of this event going back to 1969.

Trivia question: Who is the only lady to win the Nebelhorn Trophy twice?

Answer: Irina Slutskaya, 1993 and 1994.

Other notable winners: Dorothy Hamill, 1971; Debi Thomas, 1984; Tonia Kwiatkowski, 1988; Kyoka Ina (singles), 1989; Surya Bonaly. 1990; Shizuka Arakawa, 1995.

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

Katy Taylor has a busy schedule. Nebelhorn Sept. 29, Skate America Oct. 26., and Skate Canada Nov. 2.

Bebe also has two senior Grand Prix assignments (Cup of China and NHK).

They have to give Bebe as much as possible because I am sure she will not be an annointed one for Campbells. that will be KM, KT, EH, ACz.

Joe

 

[Jaana]

Other notable winners: Dorothy Hamill, 1971; Debi Thomas, 1984; Tonia Kwiatkowski, 1988; Kyoka Ina (singles), 1989; Surya Bonaly. 1990; Shizuka Arakawa, 1995.

There are notable winners in other disciplines as well, e.g:

Men
1987 Eldredge
1994 Kulik
1995 Honda
1996 Weiss
1997 Goebel
2005 Lindemann

Pairs
1973 Babilonia/Gardner

Dance
1977 Torvill/Dean
1982&1983 Klimova/Ponomarenko
1985 Usova/Zhulin
1992 Bourne/Kraatz
2005 Belbin/Agosto

Link for all winners

http://www.eislauf-union.de/nht-Rckblick.History.html

 

[JonnyCoop]

I just checked out the site. It has the list of winners of this event going back to 1969.

Trivia question: Who is the only lady to win the Nebelhorn Trophy twice?

Answer: Irina Slutskaya, 1993 and 1994.

Other notable winners: Dorothy Hamill, 1971; Debi Thomas, 1984; Tonia Kwiatkowski, 1988; Kyoka Ina (singles), 1989; Surya Bonaly. 1990; Shizuka Arakawa, 1995.

Actually, Elena Liashenko also won twice, '97 and '99.

I wish some of the other smaller competitions that go back for years would do this. It's a hoot to read some of these names; some of them I remember as being in the middle ranks during the 80s, or competing at Nationals, but some of these other ones I have never heard of in my entire life. (Ludmila Bezakova, anyone??)

 

[shadowcat]

Entries for Nebelhorn Trophy?

Does anyone know if the entries have been published yet for the Nebelhorn Trophy? If so, where have they been published?

 

[hockeyfan228]

They're not yet up on the Nebelhorn site, which Sandra_persch published in the first post on this thread.

Eventually, there will be an "entries" link on the ISU Events Page:

http://www.isu.org/vsite/vcontent/p...30051-131359-35803-174840-custom-item,00.html
(Scroll to "Results" section.)

According to the USFS site, the US entries have been updated:

Ladies: Liang, Taylor
Men: Delmore,Pennington
Pairs: Castile/Okolski (added 8/22), Katz/Lynch (added 8/22)
Dance: Slattery/Lee, Matthews/Zavozin (added 8/14)

http://www.usfigureskating.org/Athletes.asp?id=216


When Skate Canada updates its site, the entries will be located here:

http://www.skatecanada.ca/en/athletes/national_teams/international_assignments/
(scroll down to "Senior International")

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

Of course, we are not going to get this on TV so we need some personal reports from our fans going to watch it.

I saw a vast improvement in Pennington's skating last season, and I would like to know how well he fared.

Bebe, I'm afraid should switch to speedskating. She is the fastest today. What she needs is control of that speed. She should study Irina tapes and watch IS slow down before any element entry.

Katy is somewhat of a mystery. We know she won 4CC but no one really saw it. I'm looking forward to the GPs for both of them.

Joe

 

[shadowcat]

The British squad allocations are here:

http://www.iceskating.org.uk/figure/dyncat.cfm?catid=24205

 

[Sandra_persch]

Entry lists are online:

http://www.deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2006/

Ladies:

1 Andrea KREUZER AUT
2 Isabelle PIEMANN BEL
3 Sonia RADEVA BUL
4 Amanda BILLINGS CAN
5 Christiane BERGER GER
6 Cornelia BEYERMANN GER
7 Constanze PAULINUS GER
8 Ina SETERBAKKEN GER
9 Kristin WIECZOREK GER
10 Carolina KOSTNER ITA
11 Maria BALABA LAT
12 Arina MARTINOVA RUS
13 Olga NAIDENOVA RUS
14 Jacqueline BELENYESIOVA SVK
15 Teodora POSTIC SLO
16 Lina JOHANSSON SWE
17 Cindy CARQUILLAT SUI
18 Beatrisa LIANG USA
19 Katy TAYLOR USA

Men:

1 Kevin VAN DER PERREN BEL
2 Vaughn CHIPEUR CAN
3 Maxime-Billy FORTIN CAN
4 Tomas JANECKO CZE
5 Tomas VERNER CZE
6 Ari-Pekka NURMENKARI FIN
7 Tobias BAYER GER
8 Clemens BRUMMER GER
9 Martin LIEBERS GER
10 Stefan LINDEMANN GER
11 Thomas PAULSON GBR
12 Sergei KOTOV ISR
13 Karel ZELENKA ITA
14 Przemyslaw DOMANSKI POL
15 Adrian MATEI ROM
16 Denis LEUSHIN RUS
17 Trifun ZIVANOVIC SER
18 Igor MATSIPURA SVK
19 Gregor URBAS SLO
20 Kristoffer BERNTSSON SWE
21 Anton KOVALEVSKI UKR
22 Derrick DELMORE USA
23 Parker PENNINGTON USA

Ice Dance:

1 Barbora SILNA / Dmitri MATSJUK AUT
2 Allie HANN-MCCURDY / Michael CORENO CAN
3 Siobhan KARAM / Joshua MCGRATH CAN
4 Aleksandra GOTT / Iliya KORESHEV EST
5 Sinead KERR / John KERR GBR
6 Phillipa TOWLER-GREEN / Phillip POOLE GBR
7 Alexandra ZARETSKI / Roman ZARETSKI ISR
8 Katherine Leigh COPELY / Deividas STAGNIUNAS LTU
9 Clover ZATZMAN / Aurimas RADISAUSKAS LTU
10 Alexandra KAUC / Michal ZYCH POL
11 Morgan MATTHEWS / Maxim ZAVOZIN USA
12 Kate SLATTERY / Ghuen-Gun LEE USA

Pairs:

1 Rumiana SPASSOVA / Stanimir TODOROV BUL
2 Mylene BRODEUR / John MATTATALL CAN
3 Jessica MILLER / Ian MORAM CAN
4 N. N. / N. N. GER
5 Mari VARTMANN / Florian JUST GER
6 Stacey KEMP / David KING GBR
7 Laura MAGITTERI / Ondrej HOTAREK ITA
8 Dominika PIATKOWSKA / Dmitri KHROMIN POL
9 Yuko KAWAGUCHI / Alexander SMIRNOV RUS
10 Arina USHAKOVA / Sergei KAREV RUS
11 Angelika PYLKINA / Niklas HOGNER SWE
12 Julia BELOGLAZOVA / Andrei BEKH UKR
13 Brooke CASTILE / Benjamin OKOLSKI USA
14 Chloe KATZ / Joseph LYNCH USA

 

[Anke G]

The start lists are up. http://www.deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2006/

In addition to Savchenko/Szolkowy withdrawing because of injury (after getting an injunction to allow Steuer to go), the other German pair (Vartmann/Just) had to withdraw because of injury also. Mari apparently fell out of a lift during practice yesterday. No word on how she is.

Also withdrawing from the competition due to injury/illness: Carolina Kostner, Christiane Berger (periostitis in left foot), and Stefan Lindemann (viral infection still being diagnosed).

I haven't compared the start lists with the entry lists, so there may be more withdrawals. I think we have to get used to lots of injuries, given the level of difficulty everyone is striving for.

 

[Mathman]

Here is the story from the USFS site, featuring Katy Taylor.

http://www.usfsa.org/event_story.asp?id=35581

 

[chuckm]

Stefan LINDEMANN and Kevin VAN DER PERREN also withdrew due to illness.

Results for Thursday, 9/28:

MEN
1 Tomas VERNER CZE 61.46
2 Parker PENNINGTON USA 60.04
3 Derrick DELMORE USA 57.30
4 Maxime Billy FORTIN CAN 53.77
5 Clemens BRUMMER GER 53.33
6 Denis LEUSHIN RUS 53.02
7 Karel ZELENKA ITA 52.98
8 Przemyslaw DOMANSKI POL 51.82
9 Martin LIEBERS GER 50.74
10 Vaughn CHIPEUR CAN 50.66
11 Ari-Pekka NURMENKARI FIN 46.11
12 Tomas JANECKO CZE 45.18
13 Tobias BAYER GER 44.74
14 Sergei KOTOV ISR 40.36
15 Igor MATSIPURA SVK 40.11
16 Trifun ZIVANOVIC SER 39.88
17 Adrian MATEI ROM 37.01
18 Thomas PAULSON GBR 33.91

PAIRS
1 PYLKINA / HOGNER SWE 48.80
2 VLASSOV / MEEKINS USA 46.97
3 BRODEUR / MATTATALL CAN 46.93
4 CASTILE / OKOLSKI USA 44.89
5 USHAKOVA / KAREV RUS 42.77
6 MILLER / MORAM CAN 42.23
7 PIATKOWSKA / KHROMIN POL 39.71
8 BELOGLAZOVA / BEKH UKR 38.25
9 SPASSOVA / TODOROV BUL 35.95
10 KEMP / KING GBR 32.67

ICE DANCE (CD is SIlver Samba)
1 KERR / KERR GBR 31.89
2 MATTHEWS / ZAVOZIN USA 30.78
3 ZARETSKI / ZARETSKI ISR 30.28
4 KAUC / ZYCH POL 28.23
5 KARAM / MCGRATH CAN 26.87
6 TOWLER-GREEN / POOLE GBR 25.11
7 COPELY / STAGNIUNAS LTU 24.42
8 HANN-MCCURDY / CORENO CAN 24.15
9 SLATTERY / LEE USA 23.46
10 SILNA / MATSJUK AUT 22.62
11 GOTT / KORESHEV EST 17.67
12 ZATZMAN / RADISAUSKAS LTU 17.61

 

[Sandra_persch]

The start lists are up. http://www.deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2006/
Mari apparently fell out of a lift during practice yesterday. No word on how she is.

Mari was taken to the hospital after the fall. She has a concussion.

Get well soon Mari!!!

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

Very close contests after the SPs. GO PARKER!

Joe