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imagine if he become a doctor how many people would throw themselves down the stairs to see him
i totally would jk
i totally would jk
Nathan Chen
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How about yours?thanks for all updates, from all the info I gathered so far, in short, Yale is a prepared and well thought-after choice in terms of Nathan's figure skating career.
About this new 2019 us nationals schedule, what is that "NEW" thing after men's and ice dance entry?
About this new 2019 us nationals schedule, what is that "NEW" thing after men's and ice dance entry?
I agree! I think Nathan will do great and I’m really happy for him that’s he’s being able to realize so many of his dreams
a little more, from both the Japanese international figure skating article and figure skating online article,
it seems the fundamental real reason behind Nathan's OG SP mishap is his inconsistency in jumps in the practices, the couple of weeks leading to OG (maybe the injury finally caught up on him as well). He lacked the much-needed assurance of his own jump, let alone the pressure from the outside (he has no confidence of his own jump consistency to fall back on when nervous). Ultimately your mental strength still comes from your absolute confidence in your technique/consistency. There are some lessons to be learned here. Just an anecdote, Yuna before she was known as the Queen, she has another title, the Queen of Short Program.
it seems the fundamental real reason behind Nathan's OG SP mishap is his inconsistency in jumps in the practices, the couple of weeks leading to OG (maybe the injury finally caught up on him as well). He lacked the much-needed assurance of his own jump, let alone the pressure from the outside (he has no confidence of his own jump consistency to fall back on when nervous). Ultimately your mental strength still comes from your absolute confidence in your technique/consistency. There are some lessons to be learned here. Just an anecdote, Yuna before she was known as the Queen, she has another title, the Queen of Short Program.
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Nathan has typically been strong in Short Programs. He’s won many of his competitions off the lead of his short programs. The Olympics was an anomaly and to me seemed clear that his inconsistency was because he was nervous rather than being nervous because of his inconsistency. It could be both but I think it was the former that then led to the latter if anything. The decision to not listen to his coach and do his own thing last minute was also obviously not a smart choice and he payed the price but he owned up to it and seems to have learned his lesson. You live and you learn. It was good for him and tbh I’m glad everything happened the way it did, for his sake (as I explained more in depth in a previous post).
Yes his Michael Jordan/Lebron/Tom Brady moment
I’m guessing this comparison has never been made before
But I think Nathan and Eli Manning have some similar personality traits
Both humble, calm, always show good character, take personal accountability and don’t blame others, introverts
I’m guessing this comparison has never been made before
But I think Nathan and Eli Manning have some similar personality traits
Both humble, calm, always show good character, take personal accountability and don’t blame others, introverts
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I haven’t paid too much attention to Eli (his brother tends to hog the spotlight lol) but that seems consistent with the vibe he’s given off. I would compare Nathan as more like Steph Curry but more awkward version (in interviews) lol. They seem to take things in stride and keep it moving
Eli is certainly at least a bit awkward - especially in interviews 
He also seems to have a life outside his sport and isn’t only defined by football - like Nathan and skating
Eli is also very tough - as shown from his 210 game starting streak. He must have extremely high tolerance to pain (played through injuries) - like Nathan
But if Nathan has as cute a family someday as Steph does ...
He also seems to have a life outside his sport and isn’t only defined by football - like Nathan and skating
Eli is also very tough - as shown from his 210 game starting streak. He must have extremely high tolerance to pain (played through injuries) - like Nathan
But if Nathan has as cute a family someday as Steph does ...
I disagree, JMHO, it is the other way around. and I agree to disagree.
EDIT: my opinion is refer to the specific preparation widow leading up to OG, and my suggestion re: lesson to be learned is to be technically confident, especially in SP considering all possible training conditions/scenarios. as for how, Nathan will figure it out himself.
EDIT: emphasize again, In TE SP, which he also bombed, he did the easier jumps, listened to coach for sure then
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Phil Hersh tweeted this
https://twitter.com/olyphil/status/988818714727473152?s=21
What do you guys think?
Personally I don’t think this will help discourage any of the men to do less quads but rather do quads they’re not comfortable with and risk significant injury bc at the end of the day, quads still have the most points.
Also this does give Nathan way too much of an advantage as pointed out in the tweets as he can do 5 different types of quads pretty comfortably and he’s the only one who can. He’ll have positive GOEs in most of his jumps as he usually does and he’s not prone to falling too often or UR, he’s used to 5-6 quads now that I think this rule will make it too advantageous for him compared to the rest. I get the intention behind it but I don’t think it’ll have the intended results and doesn’t seem totally fair.
https://twitter.com/olyphil/status/988818714727473152?s=21
What do you guys think?
Personally I don’t think this will help discourage any of the men to do less quads but rather do quads they’re not comfortable with and risk significant injury bc at the end of the day, quads still have the most points.
Also this does give Nathan way too much of an advantage as pointed out in the tweets as he can do 5 different types of quads pretty comfortably and he’s the only one who can. He’ll have positive GOEs in most of his jumps as he usually does and he’s not prone to falling too often or UR, he’s used to 5-6 quads now that I think this rule will make it too advantageous for him compared to the rest. I get the intention behind it but I don’t think it’ll have the intended results and doesn’t seem totally fair.
Seems that his inconsistent practices leading up to OG affected his mental state and confidence in his jumps (along with the Olympic-related pressure)
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Yea, I was also referring to the preparation leading up to the Olympics. That as the date was getting closer, he was getting nervous and that affected his jump consistency which then didn’t help his nerves obviously lol. That’s just what I got out of his comments but which ever it is, as long as he learns from it, it’s all gravy
@heyheyhey I think it is other way around, his jumps in training is not as consistent as he wanted approaching OG then he get more nervous because of that. I will stop arguing about this anymore.
Re: Phill's article,
I also posted rumor about this specific rule change in this FF before. If Uncle Phill tweet it, the chance for it to be true seems higher now.
well Nathan is the only one who can do 5 different quads, this rule change (for my own little selfish fan's dream) may force Nathan to achieve a first, historical 5 different kinds of quads in free in future. Maybe, no more 6 quads, but another historical achievement possibility.
Re: Phill's article,
I also posted rumor about this specific rule change in this FF before. If Uncle Phill tweet it, the chance for it to be true seems higher now.
well Nathan is the only one who can do 5 different quads, this rule change (for my own little selfish fan's dream) may force Nathan to achieve a first, historical 5 different kinds of quads in free in future. Maybe, no more 6 quads, but another historical achievement possibility.
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i'm not a fan of the latest rule changes. it means no more 6 quad FS 
nathan's quads are hot (pun intended)
nathan's quads are hot (pun intended)
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Yeah I actually agree with this. I think it was obvious some time between GPF and OG he lost some stability in his jump technique, and to this day we still don't know if it was injury related or if it was a combination of things. Him taking out the lutz at Nationals as well as the original plan to go for reduced difficulty int he OG SP (which he later decided against obviously) was quite telling. You could also sort of see in the way he was jumping - they didn't look as smooth as they did comapred to last year or even the beginning of the season to me.
I think he might have gotten some of the confidence back between OG and Worlds, and I'm not sure if I'm reading too much into things but I thought the lutz still didn't look as good as before (say, like at SA, where that was his money jump).
His 3A, OTOH, was looking a lot better in practices at OG (more height and spring) so I think he might have fixed the technique.
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Phil also tweeted that he’s hearing there will be a proposal to limit no more than 4 jumping passes in the second half of the program to avoid backloading. I feel like this might be more applicable to Ladies field tho, I don’t think men have backloading problems much do they?
https://twitter.com/olyphil/status/988835324624359424?s=21
It’s just a proposal but on the bright side, like yyyskate said, it’d give him an incentive to try 5 different types of quads and make more history since 6 quads is “been there, done that” category for him now lol
https://twitter.com/olyphil/status/988835324624359424?s=21
i'm not a fan of the latest rule changes. it means no more 6 quad FS
nathan's quads are hot (pun intended)
It’s just a proposal but on the bright side, like yyyskate said, it’d give him an incentive to try 5 different types of quads and make more history since 6 quads is “been there, done that” category for him now lol
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i'm not a fan of the latest rule changes. it means no more 6 quad FS
nathan's quads are hot (pun intended)
Thank god.
i read sth on twitter
"Maybe he is a genius with photographic memory, does not need a lot of time to study. I had a classmate whose only study method used to be to read the complete textbook one or two days before the semi-annual exam and he got the best grades. He is currently a world-class researcher"
I think our Nathan perhaps can relate to this and maybe his siblings too
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Nathan FS at OG
4lz
4F-2t
4F
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4T-3T
4T
4S
3A
3F-L-3S
that is 5 jumping pass in the second half and 8 in total, Men has 8 jumping pass?
"Maybe he is a genius with photographic memory, does not need a lot of time to study. I had a classmate whose only study method used to be to read the complete textbook one or two days before the semi-annual exam and he got the best grades. He is currently a world-class researcher"
I think our Nathan perhaps can relate to this and maybe his siblings too
back loading
Nathan FS at OG
4lz
4F-2t
4F
//
//
4T-3T
4T
4S
3A
3F-L-3S
that is 5 jumping pass in the second half and 8 in total, Men has 8 jumping pass?
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