No bullet point for varied air position though. So on the plus side, we might see fewer helicopter tanos next season?
2018-2019 Season - New rules
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No bullet point for varied air position though. So on the plus side, we might see fewer helicopter tanos next season?
Wait a minute, assuming UR is going to be counted as a serious error, that will affect the components??? How even?
(not saying it will be, but ISU better define serious errors, well, seriously)
I don't know if they will define it officially. Meanwhile, as a rule of thumb, maybe that would mean any error that on its own carries a -3 to -5 penalty.
No, this is not something new and not part of the new ISU rules.
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but... do they define very good height and distance??
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Per my understanding, the new BVs are done and they’re not the proposals. They don’t need to vote for this. They will only debate the other proposals?New BV will be effective from July?
I think it was said that it would be included with body position from take off to landing.
There’s a lot of ambiguity here. I wish they added more specifics.
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Choreo sequences are getting an upgrade. 3.00 BV and GOE up to 2.50. Funny thing is, they do this when they're cutting 30s off the men's FS runtime so that choreo sequence might get even less attention paid to it from people with harder layouts.
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I wonder if all the rippons and tanos will just vanish now. Or are they counted as "very good body position"?
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Nope. That's it, that's the whole thing. Hence the, you know, bold and underlined "crystal clear, unambiguous"
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Yup, it's where they are included so they'll still be around.
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Nope. That's it, that's the whole thing. Hence the, you know, bold and underlined "crystal clear, unambiguous"
It'll be left at judges' discretion which criteria to apply, like always. If it's landed well enough, it'll likely be +3 or more all around.
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Nope. That's it, that's the whole thing. Hence the, you know, bold and underlined "crystal clear, unambiguous"
I have always believed the judges to be able to see what "very good height and distance" means, TBH. It's being inconsistently applied nowadays, sure, people were getting undeserved credit, but there really isn't a way you can ignore those things when you're forced to notice.
No, it's the other things that are nonsense to me. Where is the delay in rotation being rewarded? Why would anyone bother with that anymore?
You could just do a lone spread eagle sequence. Easy enough, and well there's enough music out there to get a nice long bit to fit the SE sequence location layout-the music edit might be something horrible but since when did that matter? And SE is basic enough, that you honestly shouldn't mess up enough to miss 3-4 of the GOE bullets. Now the question is, would having a more difficult ChSq be a pre-requisite for the originality, creativity bullet? That might be the only way you could prevent me from doing a giant outside edge SE (especially if it looks impressive, no matter how easy it is).
OMG, wait wait, mathematically, did ChSq+5 just beat out a StSq4+5 for points?
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The thing is, I think the idea does have logical merits behing it (unlike other stuff).
But, and this is a huge BUT, if they don't formally declare a Serious Error and the document continued to be worded with "should", there's whole can of worms waiting to be opened.
The thing is, I think the idea does have logical merits behing it (unlike other stuff).
But, and this is a huge BUT, if they don't formally declare a Serious Error and the document continued to be worded with "should", there's whole can of worms waiting to be opened.
Dude, it is kinda obvious they want to keep it obscure so they can score however they want.
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That's true. But some judges can also see something that's not there. So :hpull:
And yeah, I don't understand why delayed rotation is being kicked out. Your guess is as good as mine. Not only that, since the 10% of BV is being applied to spins and steps as well, +5 spins and steps are worth less than +3 spins and steps, and even a Choreo Seq. Bloody hell.
Hire some maths interns before you burn down the sport, ISU. P l e a s e.
They dont want to. It is kinda obvious at this point that ISU does not want objective and transparent scoring.
Remember the guy from Netherlands that came here and how he was selectively avoiding any questions about the reasoning behind what they do?
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Yeah, I definitely think that they screwed something up considering a UR 4A will have a lower base value than a downgraded 4A(7.50 vs 8.00). Did they not even check this stuff?¨
I am a fan of "delayed rotation" being removed though, it's rather suboptimal as is.
I am a fan of "delayed rotation" being removed though, it's rather suboptimal as is.
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*sigh*
In this economy you can't even afford to be a cautious optimist. And I have no idea what's going with the Dutch guy either; maybe he finally realised the "reasons" he proposed for minimum age are going to be laughed out of the congress and actually is trying to rewrite it. But who am I kidding :gaah:
