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Yes..thank you ISU. We’d sure hate for the athletes and their coaches to make those decisions.
2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating
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Yes..thank you ISU. We’d sure hate for the athletes and their coaches to make those decisions.
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Well, technically they are not prohibited to backload, they just won't get a bonus for it, so everyone can place their jumps wherever they like. But basically yeah, why would anyone make their lives harder with no rewards
It makes sense to have more if you want to place the combination in the 'bonus' area but also to play safe and have backups, I am not sure how will they choose the ones that get bonus (first 3 or based on the highest value).
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"However, only the last one jump element executed in the second half counts for the 1.1 factor in the Short Program, and the last three jump elements for Free Skating." https://www.isu.org/docman-document...munications/17037-isu-communication-2156/file #198
Reason: To investigate the well balanced of the program.
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Sorry, I'm confused - is Panenkova staying in juniors or will she turn senior?
That seem still unknown. The previous list was more about founding then anything else.
Anyway, she can have a GP, so stay in junior can't be a good choice. Let's wait for the GP assignment.
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Anna's only problem is her instability. Her clean fp can get over 140, but if she stumbles and start to make mistakes, which is not rare, the scores drops a lot.
But I'm really eager to see her on the JGP this year!
NO chance if Trusova will have 65+ PCS. And with such TES that she already has + JWC must bring her in this season more PCS additions
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If Anna has a nice layout next season, she can even break the world record next season. :agree:
I really hope they vote against limiting quad repetition though, I am not very hopeful about Anna being able to learn any other quads so being able to perform 4 instead of 2 would be very helpful for her.
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*If* Trusova’s jump layout doesn’t change from JW, Med or Zagitova should still be able to pull out a win based on the short program.
If Trusova adds a 4Lz and/or 3A they’ll be left in the dust, too. And I’m sure Trusova’s PCS will be wildly inflated to match her TES.
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In addition, Sasha is the youngest, and she had children's skating last season. But she is getting older and her skating will surely improve. I think PCS 65-70.
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If i recall right, she can't do a quad in the short, because is still not legal for ladies. She need the 3A.
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I think it won't change anything. Although I was for 1-2 SP and 2-5 FP.
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This quad repetition thing is tricky. I think it would be more fair if they limited it for the ladies. Imagine Trusova & Co. jumping 4-5 quads in the FP: the TES would skyrocket and other skaters wouldn't start the slightest chance. Furthermore, the PCS would be neglected because it simply wouldn't be worth it to invest time to boost the PCS when you could learn more and more quads.
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Well, I don't think that's a problem. I think it'd only be fair if others don't stand a chance if they're jumping quads and the others aren't. They'd just be that much better than the others. To me, that's exactly how it should be... Artificial parity ruins competition.
Pretty sure they will do the same they did last year with JGPs.
Give all girls one and then give a second to those who have a JGPF chance.
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I am still learning more about FS. Can someone enlighten what is the difference between "children's/juniorish skating" vs "senior/adult skating"? I notice comments that some senior skaters' skating is "very juniorish" but am not 100% sure what it means. The junior skaters seem to be doing the same elements and jumps as the seniors. Is it in terms of height, speed or ?
I think it's more about performance and choreography. Younger skaters tend to do more of just moving their hands here because that's what their choreographer said. There's also a focus on elements instead of the overall performance, particularly on jumps. Small moments in the choreography may be missing, rushing is common (i.e. no moment to let the performance breathe). Younger skaters may skate element to element and/or may have a "busy" feeling program in which not much seems to actually happen. Also, of course when you are younger you are still working out what kind of skater you want to be and what kind of feelings you want to inspire in the audience. They are also often missing the confidence that comes with increased self-awareness and self-knowledge as you age.
This is not to say that watching younger skaters can't be incredible! Younger skaters can have incredible element performance and they can also have incredible skating skills and performances. Ultimately, it's not only about age, although younger skaters tend to struggle more with these issues, it's something all skaters have to work to conquer. Ultimately it is a question about how to turn a mixture of choreo and elements into a performance.
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Different people's definitions vary of course, but I would say that it can refer to the presentation side (i.e. a young or unsophisticated program/performance style), or more to the skating itself - 'smaller', slower, less powerful, etc. And of course not every junior would be worse in these things that some seniors, but that would be the idea.
For example, not Russian ladies, I've heard people say that in general the speed and power needed in senior dance can be a big step up from junior dance.
On Sasha, I would say that you can see how young she is in the way she performs, compared to someone like Alena who has a very mature presence on the ice.
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