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2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating
- Thread starter Spirals for Miles
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So we're likely to see Valieva and Usacheva at Junior Nationals:
1st stage:
Valieva 1st
Usacheva 2nd
Safonova 3rd
Frolova 4th
1st stage:
Valieva 1st
Usacheva 2nd
Safonova 3rd
Frolova 4th
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Well, Gulyakova is certainly getting some nice scoring. She'll probably take one of the 3-5 spots available for nationals via Cup of Russia stages.
And... Vasilieva could make it too, depending on her second event.
Gubanova is still URing, with just a third here, she might not make nationals if she doesn't get the Rostelecom spot.
Sakhanovich is probably out of nationals by placing fifth.
And... Vasilieva could make it too, depending on her second event.
Gubanova is still URing, with just a third here, she might not make nationals if she doesn't get the Rostelecom spot.
Sakhanovich is probably out of nationals by placing fifth.
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Well I don't really know what to make of all of this. I see virtually no chance Gubanova can still be in the running for the JGP spot now and maybe even the host spot as well. She was beautiful today but had something like 5 URs between both programs. I don't know if this is growth or her boot issues but she clearly isn't ready. It's a shame.
Vasilieva slayed all of the jumps but blew a spin in the short. It is always something with her. Fantastic in all PCS categories but I worry its not enough if she can't get the elements done. Still, getting through the jumps is a major accomplishment for her and I want to give credit where credit is due. She is right on the brink of a clean competition and it could happen in Ostrava. She's better than Kim and Araki but has to stay up.
Gulyakova is looking so solid. Those jumps are huge and thats some +GOE. I was surprised by the < in the free. Still beats a clean Vasilieva in the free even with that call and that has to mean something. It's odd to me to that they would send second place to the JGP when first place is eligible. Or maybe they are eyeing her for the host spot instead now?
But the more I think about it the more I think RusFed's eggs are in Samodurova's basket for the host spot. I checked the entry list for Skate America and she could podium or even win there. She can beat Radionova. Tsurskaya will be a little more difficult but doable. She beat Sakamoto at Lombardia so there is a chance there too. And I'm not really worried about Marin Honda. She will need some mistakes from Miyahara, maybe they will call her URs but unlikely. If she can finish on the podium should could potentially make the final so maybe RusFed sees this as a bonus opportunity and the spot will go to her.
Vasilieva slayed all of the jumps but blew a spin in the short. It is always something with her. Fantastic in all PCS categories but I worry its not enough if she can't get the elements done. Still, getting through the jumps is a major accomplishment for her and I want to give credit where credit is due. She is right on the brink of a clean competition and it could happen in Ostrava. She's better than Kim and Araki but has to stay up.
Gulyakova is looking so solid. Those jumps are huge and thats some +GOE. I was surprised by the < in the free. Still beats a clean Vasilieva in the free even with that call and that has to mean something. It's odd to me to that they would send second place to the JGP when first place is eligible. Or maybe they are eyeing her for the host spot instead now?
But the more I think about it the more I think RusFed's eggs are in Samodurova's basket for the host spot. I checked the entry list for Skate America and she could podium or even win there. She can beat Radionova. Tsurskaya will be a little more difficult but doable. She beat Sakamoto at Lombardia so there is a chance there too. And I'm not really worried about Marin Honda. She will need some mistakes from Miyahara, maybe they will call her URs but unlikely. If she can finish on the podium should could potentially make the final so maybe RusFed sees this as a bonus opportunity and the spot will go to her.
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Kaori has make a huge mess on the short, and blowing up the combo.
There was more than 10 points of difference between them on the free, both unclean: http://www.fisg.it/upload/result/4802/CSITA2018_Ladies_FS_Scores.pdf
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It's not exactly a competition to qualify for JGP, though. It even is the senior category. Vasilieva might as well not have participated here but at a later stage instead. And she didn't exactly do poorly, in fact she lost due to St PB PCS. I think it'd be a very bad move to give the spot to Gulyakova instead. Vasilieva's much better. And honestly, she deserved higher PCS than Gulyakova. But I guess they always need to push someone from St PB in order to pretend that Moscow doesn't have a monopoly over ladies.
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You know more about the politics than I. I was more impressed with Vasilieva in every PCS category than Gulyakova. But its not like Gulyakova was some nobody before this event, especially in comparison to Vasilieva. She's on the sub list and her name has been in it. I was very impressed with her jumps. Vasilieva really isn't so good that she has anything in the bag. It just makes me wonder what they'll make of the spin and the scores. Getting beat by your main competition for the spot two weeks before the event really isn't a good look (Vasilieva was named but I think we can all agree Gulyakova was next in line) and RusFed never seems to consider shady scoring in such situations (Konstantinova).
And didn't Kostornaia earn her way into JGP at the last minute last year through a local event?
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I saw Kaori's short and it was not good for her. She is usually capable of much better and she did beat Samodurova in the free by a lot (Samodurova also capable of mistakes as she showed us). Maybe I am crazy because there are so so many amazing Russian girls, I just think the list of people that are deserving of the host spot at this time seems to be dwindling by the day. All of the names that have been discussed here are either still wild cards (Pogo) or haven't started their season off well at all (Gubanova, Radionova, Sakhonovich). Samodurova managed second and was decent last weekend so her name has to be in it, Gulyakova was also good and is senior eligible. I'm not sure when the deadline is or what can change before then.
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Kostornaya did. She wasn't even on the sub list, nor did she participate at the actual Test Skates. So the situation's a little different. Kostornaya also was extremely good - Much better than Gulyakova here.
The thing is, Vasilieva wasn't even bad. She scored 203 points here, lost to Gulyakova by 7 points. The gap was almost entirely made up of PCS(which would likely not be scored similarly internationally). If they replaced her with Gulyakova over something like this, what were the test skates even for? Vasilieva already talked about not participating in the Moscow local earlier, saying that she "didn't need to". And again, this is not some mandatory competition. Vasilieva might just as well have participated in a latter event. If Vasilieva wasn't participating and Gulyakova had participated here and scored 210, would they have had her replace Vasilieva? I really doubt it. The situation might be different if Vasilieva had a terrible competition and scored 160.
Of course, I don't know what Rusfed will do. They've made more stupid decisions. But I just don't see it happening.
This is why counting crossovers isn't really everything there is to skating skills. More crossovers, better speed vs fewer crossovers, poor speed... I'd take more crossovers with good speed. A small amount of crossovers is only impressive if the skater can actually handle it. Tarakanova's very impressive because she indeed easily gains a lot of speed.
I decided to count the amount of crossovers for Sofia Akatieva's and Kamila Valieva's FS's. Akatieva's from last season and Valieva's this season:
Kamila Valieva FS: 27
Sofia Akatieva FS: 16
I wonder how many skaters have had as few as Akatieva at the age of 10(now 11).
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Sofia Samodurova has the Rostelecom host spot.
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Yay!! How wonderful for Sonya! :hap93:
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Congrats to Sofia! She deserves it and I‘m happy for her. Hoping she does well! 
Just wanted to say one tiny little thing her: Sima Sakhanovich did pretty well in her recent events. She‘s improved a lot! I mean, she‘s not perfect obviously but she‘s got a nice presence, huge (but agreeably unrealiable) jumps and fast spins. She‘s not the most consistent nor flexible but I really do not understand why she wasn‘t even invited to the test skates to prove herself there. In my eyes she could have been a real contender for the host spot. Does anyone have any answers about this for me? Cause I really don‘t know a lot about test skates and what you need to do to get invited.
Just wanted to say one tiny little thing her: Sima Sakhanovich did pretty well in her recent events. She‘s improved a lot! I mean, she‘s not perfect obviously but she‘s got a nice presence, huge (but agreeably unrealiable) jumps and fast spins. She‘s not the most consistent nor flexible but I really do not understand why she wasn‘t even invited to the test skates to prove herself there. In my eyes she could have been a real contender for the host spot. Does anyone have any answers about this for me? Cause I really don‘t know a lot about test skates and what you need to do to get invited.
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She's not on the national team, and I don't think she's on the reserve team either.
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I thought her finish last year at RU Nats secured her funding and a spot on the reserve team?
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Oh, maybe she is on the reserves. I don't know where to find the document since I know zero Russian, but I'm not sure if the reserve team is invited to test skates.
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It confuses me too. For instance, on the men's side, both Lazukin and Erokhov were invited to test skates, but Samoilov, who finished ahead of both of them at nationals, was not. I wonder what the rationale is :think:
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they have GP events. Erokhov won JWC.
It also depends on stuff we does not know, for instance a skater may have health issues or whatever stuff that was decided by fed and coaches.
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Novice have shorter program and one less jump pass. Also number of crossovers does not mean anything, some skaters simply prefer forward progressives.
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Sofia (or Sonya) Akatieva is definitely the one to watch. But we won't even see her at JGP in two years. Besides her skating, I also think has a champion's spirit.
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