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2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

Are there a max number of Cup of Russia events skaters can go to or are they limited to 2? Pretty sure they can do more than 2 if they do both junior and senior events but I'm unsure if they can do 3 or more senior events.
 
NaVi said:
Are there a max number of Cup of Russia events skaters can go to or are they limited to 2? Pretty sure they can do more than 2 if they do both junior and senior events but I'm unsure if they can do 3 or more senior events.
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You can use the Russian Cup events to get either a senior or a junior Nationals spot, not both, and you are limited to two. Except in pairs, they can participate in four events, two as juniors, and two in seniors to get both a senior and a junior nationals spot. Singles can't do that.
 
This week's Cup of Russia added some intrigue to nationals qualification:
As we know, there are 18 spots, 9 of which are going to girls on the GP. Currently there are 3 Russians qualified for the JGPF, and assuming that Kanysheva makes it, only 4 of the likely 5 qualifiers will be age eligible. So 13 spots taken, 5 remaining.

Gulyakova has a first at a Russian Cup event (Shcherbakova has already qualified)
Vasilieva and Nugumanova each have a second at a Russian Cup event
Gubanova and Talalaikina each have a third at a Russian Cup event

Gulyakova looks to be a lock for nationals provided she finishes no lower than fourth at her next one. If Vasilieva and Nuguamanova win or are second at their next event, they'll likely make it. Gubanova to be in for sure would probably want a silver medal. Also, Tarusina is likely not in by JGPF status, so she will probably be looking to do two Russian Cups to qualify. Those would be the last five. However, I could see Nugumanova dropping too low to qualify. Talalaikina and Gracheva could potentially be in the mix if this happens.
 
Orlov said:
It's some special dance? Please, tell me about.
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She kind of went quick but I thought it looked like the Orange Justice Dance.

He’s a kid who sort of invented it and Fortnite added it as a dance that players could chose for their characters. Kind of like going viral I guess.

Whenever I see groups of kids these days I usually expect to see them dancing like this. They do it regardless of where they are and music is not needed nor does the situation need to call for dancing :laugh:

After seeing Nastya bust out those moves I assume it’s not just an American phenomenon.
 
katymay said:
When you think about it though, there is no one in the world, male or female, who has a consistent 4L. I'm not sure it is even possible to have a consistent 4L.
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But, again, it's not the 4L that's the issue. It's the stumbling in the step sequence, it's the falling on the combo, it's the not leaving herself enough room to even put the combo in just to name a few issues which have happened at least once in the last year. And then there is the what usually comes after that initial mistake (though I was very impressed with her in the sp at Richmond because usually after a mistake like that Anna would have checked out). They are all the small things that she should, and does, have the awareness and experience to be correcting but she just isn't using it. The mistakes just keep happening and they need to be addressed sooner rather than later because once she gets to seniors no matter how good she is when she is clean if there is such a high probability that she is going to fall flat on her butt they will be reluctant to send her to the bigger competitions like worlds or Europeans when they can send the likes of Trusova, Zagitova, Medvedeva or Kostornaia who are equally likely to win but a lower risk to lose.
 
Shayuki said:
"Chronic consistency issues". Right, because skaters tend to be consistent less than a year after returning from a major injury. Ridiculous. And now it's labeled as "chronic".

People didn't even note it when I said that Anna actually can challenge Trusova, which she should be able to. I don't think Trusova will ever land a better 4Lutz than the first one by Anna today. Also, if you think that this is the extent of what she's going to be able to do, I feel like you're going to be either disappointed or surprised.
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You need to get over this injury thing. It's not unique and it is not an amazing thing to come back from. Every single lady on the Olympic podium at Pyeongchang has broken their leg. One of them even had a serious injury at the time. And it is a chronic issue. Anna has skated cleanly a grand total of three times. That's the very definition of a chronic issue. And you can't use an old injury to excuse everything. Especially when what she is messing up are simple skils. There is no reason for her to be putting her hands down in the step sequence. And I'm sorry if you don't like that but trying to drag Sasha down to try and build up Anna is not going to change that fact. If you want to pick Sasha apart, fine, she too has more than her fair share of issues (pre-rotation). Alena has her issues as well (lutz). Go nuts. I will even go nuts with you. But at least be objective and have the integrity to admit where Anna's issues are as well. And for the love of all things holy don't do it to try and make the other look good. There are three medals at JGPF, they can all succeed.
 
Can we all just agree to stop bashing Sasha to praise Anna, or bashing Anna to praise Sasha? It’s completely unneccessary when we could easily just...you know...praise one without being negative about the other. Every time someone does it, it invites even more hate on BOTH girls and it just ends up in pointless arguing.

At the end of the day they’re incredibly talented fourteen-year-olds who seem to be friends as much as they are rivals, and they don’t need to be hated on by their friends’ fans when they’re already receiving relentless bullying from, for example, Yuna fans on youtube.
 
chopinskate said:
It's too late for Tsurskaya to fix anything, I think.
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Why to be too late for Polina?
She had problems with UR before,like Taipei,for ex,but she skated awesome at Sochi and NHK.
She is a fighter and she'll try her best to fix the problems with the jumps.
I didn't see only negative things at this stage of CoR.
I'm so happy that she landed combos in FS.
I hope that CSKA will be more like a team than her preview one and will work with her.
For step sequence I wait that mr choreographer to work more.It's his job,no?Or Nikita Mikhailov think that he already finished his job?🤔
As I knew,CSKA has a tehnical specialist,so she should work.more with the girls and fix that UR problem (Polina is not the only girl from CSKA with this kind of problem).
I know like everybody know too,that Polina is a shy girl and sheneess time to accomodate,but I also hope they'll find the proper way to talk with her and make her confident.
From me,better to start the season slower and to skate well when it really is important,and not to tired herself even from the start.
 
tinybluemoon said:
Osmond doesn't skate for Russia. Her Fed doesn't have a factory line of girls.
And is that really what you want for Anna? Trusova gets to be the next Medvedeva. Kostornaia the next Kostner. And Anna gets to be the the next Osmond? How sad. I don't want that for Anna. I want her to win because she was the best and beat everybody else fair and square. Not win because Zagitova was having a bad day.
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I would say that Trusova will be the next Zagitova, Anna the next Medvedeva and Kostornaia the next Kostner.
 
tinybluemoon said:
You need to get over this injury thing. It's not unique and it is not an amazing thing to come back from. Every single lady on the Olympic podium at Pyeongchang has broken their leg. One of them even had a serious injury at the time. And it is a chronic issue. Anna has skated cleanly a grand total of three times. That's the very definition of a chronic issue. And you can't use an old injury to excuse everything. Especially when what she is messing up are simple skils. There is no reason for her to be putting her hands down in the step sequence. And I'm sorry if you don't like that but trying to drag Sasha down to try and build up Anna is not going to change that fact. If you want to pick Sasha apart, fine, she too has more than her fair share of issues (pre-rotation). Alena has her issues as well (lutz). Go nuts. I will even go nuts with you. But at least be objective and have the integrity to admit where Anna's issues are as well. And for the love of all things holy don't do it to try and make the other look good. There are three medals at JGPF, they can all succeed.
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Alina didn't skate every program clean 9 months after breaking her leg.
Evgenia didn't have the same injury that Anna did and yet even she struggled to go clean (she was clean at the Olympics but compare that to 2017 Worlds for example)
Alena Kostornaya didn't skate every program clean 9 months after her injury.

So I don't understand why it's suddenly not okay for Anna to still not quite be back to her consistency. It's not like she's never consistent - before her injuries she was quite consistent!

I'll give you an analogy: I am a dancer (not a skater, I know) and had/have a pretty bad leg injury for the past year (not what Anna had). Even though I've been dancing for a few months now, my turns are not at the same level that they were before the injury because I had to take time off, so they got worse. But I can see improvements in them from what they were last week, or last month. And like that, Anna's not quite at the same level that she was before, but I can definitely see her getting closer to it. But if no one believes in her, then she won't get there, and that would be sad :sad4:
 
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