2018-19 U.S. Ladies' figure skating

[bennorii]

This is a little random, but I compiled a projected list of ladies who have a bye to Nationals this year...

Mariah Bell - Top 5 @ 2018 Nats
Karen Chen - Top 5 @ 2018 Nats
Ting Cui - International bye through Tallinn Trophy
Gracie Gold - International bye through Rostelecom Cup
Courtney Hicks - International bye through NHK Trophy
Ashley Lin - International bye through Inge Solar Memorial / Alpen Trophy
Angela Wang - International bye through NHK Trophy
Bradie Tennell - Top 5 @ 2018 Nats

I don't think that anyone who gets assigned to Golden Spin will get a bye because last year, the ladies who did get assigned there had to qualify to Nats through sectionals. I wonder if USFS is really gonna make Starr qualify through Sectionals (ofc I know she'll win), because I don't see how else she is going to qualify. What is the implication if this does happen? I'm pointing this out because USFS been pushing Starr so much...

 

[creaturelover]

I don't think that anyone who gets assigned to Golden Spin will get a bye because last year, the ladies who did get assigned there had to qualify to Nats through sectionals. I wonder if USFS is really gonna make Starr qualify through Sectionals (ofc I know she'll win), because I don't see how else she is going to qualify. What is the implication if this does happen? I'm pointing this out because USFS been pushing Starr so much...

Didn't Starr have a GP? Thought that gives her a bye to Nats

 

[frida80]

This is a little random, but I compiled a projected list of ladies who have a bye to Nationals this year...

Mariah Bell - Top 5 @ 2018 Nats
Karen Chen - Top 5 @ 2018 Nats
Ting Cui - International bye through Tallinn Trophy
Gracie Gold - International bye through Rostelecom Cup
Courtney Hicks - International bye through NHK Trophy
Ashley Lin - International bye through Inge Solar Memorial / Alpen Trophy
Angela Wang - International bye through NHK Trophy
Bradie Tennell - Top 5 @ 2018 Nats

I don't think that anyone who gets assigned to Golden Spin will get a bye because last year, the ladies who did get assigned there had to qualify to Nats through sectionals. I wonder if USFS is really gonna make Starr qualify through Sectionals (ofc I know she'll win), because I don't see how else she is going to qualify. What is the implication if this does happen? I'm pointing this out because USFS been pushing Starr so much...

I have to check the rule book, but I think anyone that has two GP gets a bye to nationals. If not, going to sectionals will be good practice before nationals.

 

[mrrice]

Awesome - can’t wait to see Gracie skating her new programs!

I just hope she's able to enjoy her comeback. Elaine Zayak didn't medal at Nationals when she made her comeback but, she said that she loved every minute of it. Other than Bradie, the US Ladies are like a box of chocolates. We truly don't know who's getting that second spot for Worlds. The Title is Bradie's to lose and after that, Who knows.

 

[Bumbleboire]

I don't know why, her jumps remind me of Chen Lu. This is my first time seeing her.

Hi Topaz, please can you inbox me? Many thanks.

 

[concorde]

I read the competition rules and I think I will be ok.

Really a bummer that our ladies are in 7, 8, and 10. Hopefully they will be able to move up some places in the long. But unfortunately I am not very optimistic.

 

[frida80]

I read the competition rules and I think I will be ok.

Really a bummer that our ladies are in 7, 8, and 10. Hopefully they will be able to move up some places in the long. But unfortunately I am not very optimistic.

This is a really really deep field! And well... with these three, perhaps hoping for their personal best is better than hoping for a medal.

Funny... for years I blamed Chicago for Mariah's bad shorts. Now I'm starting to realize that shorts just aren't her thing.

 

[Bluediamonds09]

When was the last time the US ladies had not one lady medaling on the GP?

 

[princessalica]

When was the last time the US ladies had not one lady medaling on the GP?

I don’t know that it’s ever happened.

 

[frida80]

When was the last time the US ladies had not one lady medaling on the GP?

I'm pretty sure it never happened. But then skating has never been this deep in history either. Back then you could've fallen underrotated and maybe even popped and still made it on the podium so long as some of your triples were clean. Now, you have to be virtually spotless.

 

[drivingmissdaisy]

When was the last time the US ladies had not one lady medaling on the GP?

Never. 2008-09 was the only other season there wasn't an American medalist at Skate America, but Czisny, Zhang, and Flatt medaled elsewhere.

 

[princessalica]

2017-2018
Ashley Wagner 3rd Skate Canada, Bradie Tennell 3rd at Skate America,
2016-2017
Ashley Wagner 1st Skate America, Mariah Bell 2nd Skate America, Courtney Hicks 3rd Rostelecom,
2015-2016
Gracie Gold 2nd Skate America, Ashley Wagner 1st Skate Canada, Gracie Gold 1st Trophee bompard, Courtney Hicks 2nd NHK
2014-2015
Gracie Gold 3rd Skate America, Ashley Wagner 2nd Skate Canada, Ashley Wagner 3rd Trophee Bompard, Gracie Gold 1st NHK, Ashley Wagner 3rd at the Final
2013-2014
Ashley Wagner 2nd Skate America, Gracie Gold 3rd at Skate Canada, Ashley Wagner 1st Trophee Bompard, Mirai Nagasu 3rd Rostelecom, Ashley Wagner 3rd at the Final
2012-2013
Ashley Wagner 1st Skate America, Christina Gao 2nd Skate America, Gracie Gold 2nd Rostelecom, Agnes Zawadski 3rd Rostelecom, Ashley Wagner 1st Trophee Bompard, Mirai Nagasu 3rd NHK, Ashlet Wagner 2nd GP Final
2011-2012
Alissa Czisny 1sy Skate America, Ashley Wagner 3rd Skate Canada, Mirai Nagasu 2nd CoC, Alissa Czisny 3rd Trophee Bompard,
2010-2011
Rachael Flatt 2nd NHK, Alissa Czisny 1st Skate Canada, Rachael Flatt 2nd Skate America, Ashley Wagner 3rd Rostelecom, Mirai Nagasu 2nd, Trophee Bompard, Alissa Czisny 3rd Trophee Bompard, Alissa Czisny 1st GP Final
2009-2010
Ashley Wagner 2nd Rostelecom, Ashley Wagner 3rd NHK, Racheal Flatt 2nd Skate America, Alissa Czisny 2nd Skate Canada
2008-2009
Alissa Czisny 3rd Skate Canada, Caroline Zhang 3rd Trophee Bompard, Rachael Flatt 2nd Russia,
2007-2008
Kimmie Meissner 1st Skate America, Caroline Zhang 3rd Skate America, Caroline Zhang 2nd CoC, Kimmie Meissner 2nd Trophee Bompard, Ashley Wagner 3rd Trophee Bompard,
2006-2007
Kimmie M 2nd Skate Am, Kimmie M 3rd France
2005-2006
Alissa Czisny 2nd Skate America, Alissa Czisny 1st Skate Canada, Sasha Cohen 2nd Trophee Bompard,
2004-2005
Angela Nikodinov 1st Skate America,
2003-2004
Sasha Cohen 1st Skate America, Jennifer Kirk 2nd Skate America, Sasha Cohen 1st Skate Canada, Sasha Cohen 1st France, Sasha Cohen 2nd GP Final
2002-2003
Michelle Kwan 1st Skate America, Ann Patrice McDonough 2nd Skate America, Sasha Cohen 1st Skate Canada, Sasha Cohen 1st France, Sasha Cohen 2nd Russia, Sasha Cohen 1st GP final
2001-2002
Michelle Kwan 1st Skate America, Sarah Hughes 2nd Skate America, Sarah Hughes 1st Skate Canada, Michelle Kwan 3rd Skate Canada, Angela Nikodinov 3rd Spakassen Cup on Ice, Sarah Hughes 2nd France, Sasha Cohen 3rd France, Angela Nikodinov 3rd Russia, Michelle Kwan 2nd GP Final, Sarah Hughes 3rd GP Final
2000-2001
Michelle Kwan 1st Skate America, Sarah Hughes 2nd Skate America, Michelle Kwan 2nd Skate Canada, Sarah Hughes 2nd Sparkassen, Sarah Hughes 3rd Russia, Jennifer Kirk 3rd France, Michelle Kwan 2nd GP final, Sarah Hughes 3rd GP Final
1999-2000
Michelle Kwan 1st Skate America, Michelle Kwan 1st Skate Canada, Sarah Hughes 3rd France, Michelle Kwan 2nd GP Final
1998-1999
Angela Nikodinov 3rd Skate America, Nicole Bobek 2nd France,
1997-1998
Michelle Kwan 1st America, Tara Lipinski 2nd America, Michelle Kwan 1st Canada, Tara Lipinski 2nd France, Tara Lipinski 1st GP Final
1996-1997
Tara Lipinski 1st GP Final, Michelle Kwan 2nd GP Final *There is more, but its harder to compile
1995-1996
Michelle Kwan 1st GP Final

I could continue to before they had a final, but it looks like 2004-2005 was the worst year, but we still had a medalist, and we still might.

 

[concorde]

Any updates on Karen regarding next week? When she is on, she is a medal threat! But when she is off, well . . . Given her recent troubles, I am not too optimistic.

I am also worried that Camp Gracie has been silent.

If one or both end up withdrawing, I would not be greatly surprised.

On a more optimistic note, I think Bradie can medal in France.

 

[drivingmissdaisy]

On a more optimistic note, I think Bradie can medal in France.

I could see her ending up anywhere between 2nd and 5th.

 

[bubblecherry]

I hope Karen is healthy enough to go next week. I don't have any hopes for her placement but I'm ready to see her programs! It's November and we haven't seen them yet.

 

[princessalica]

Any updates on Karen regarding next week? When she is on, she is a medal threat! But when she is off, well . . . Given her recent troubles, I am not too optimistic.

I am also worried that Camp Gracie has been silent.

If one or both end up withdrawing, I would not be greatly surprised.

On a more optimistic note, I think Bradie can medal in France.

I don't think it is bad that Gracie has been silent. This entire comeback process has been silent. Last year when Gracie withdrew it was over a month out. Its a week away. She might not have her best event ever, but I think she will be there if there is anyway possible. And even cup of China was several weeks out from the event when she withdrew.

 

[Mathman]

...I could continue to before they had a final, but it looks like 2004-2005 was the worst year, but we still had a medalist, and we still might.

Interesting! If you go back to when there were only individual events, before the ISU put them together in a grand prix or championship series, the only years when USA did not have a ladies' medalist were 1973 and 1976. (I just looked it up )

Skate Canada started in 1973. This was the only "Grand Prix" event until 1979, when Skate America and NHK began. After that, USA had a medalist at Skate America every year the event was held except the two times when it was at Everett, Washington (2008 and 2018) -- must be a curse.

Skate America was not held in 1980, 1984 and 1987, but between Elaine Zayak, Tiffany Chin, Debi Thomas and Jill Trenary, U.S. skaters won other events.

 

[MarinHondas]

I could see her ending up anywhere between 2nd and 5th.

Agreed. France is even tougher field than NHK which is saying something, considering even a clean short ended up in 6th today.

 

[andromache]

I think Bradie is more likely to medal in France than not. I think she will be hungry - and it's not a super deep field.

I'm not at all worried about the radio silence from Team Gracie. It's clearly their modus operandi for this season, and that's fine. We've been spoiled over the past few years with skaters and social media.

I suspect Gracie's practices at Rostelecom will be more telling than her performances. We'll see how she's been training.

 

[alexaa]

Bradie interview with Phil Hersh

https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2018...pion-mentality/amp/?__twitter_impression=true