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Anna Shcherbakova

Hi, I just found this forum some days ago. So not read all the posts. Anyway, congratulation for the National. That 4Lz was so big and beautiful. I would say one of the best 4Lz ever including mens. Some says edge issu but I checked 4 or 5 different performance and her Lutz is quite OK if not as good as Yuzuru. Or probably Lisa, Rika and Wakaba, not 4Lz though. Anyway I like her elegance as well as jumps. She also speaks a little Japanese, very cute! I saw her something like 3 Axel UR "on the ground"! Is she practicing 3A?
 
Minoru said:
Hi, I just found this forum some days ago. So not read all the posts. Anyway, congratulation for the National. That 4Lz was so big and beautiful. I would say one of the best 4Lz ever including mens. Some says edge issu but I checked 4 or 5 different performance and her Lutz is quite OK if not as good as Yuzuru. Or probably Lisa, Rika and Wakaba, not 4Lz though. Anyway I like her elegance as well as jumps. She also speaks a little Japanese, very cute! I saw her something like 3 Axel UR "on the ground"! Is she practicing 3A?
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Welcome to her thread! [emoji847] It took me nearly one full year after I found this thread to create an account and post (even though I was constantly checking it), I’m glad to see people more productive than I was [emoji23] and supporting Anna )))

As for whether or not she is practicing 3 Axel, as far as I know, only on the floor, and not on ice. I think there is three videos of her doing clean off-ice triple axels, starting in August [emoji848]
 
Thank you for the reactions. As for the Lutz (3 or 4), I care about preparation maneuver. Lower end of the left foot (how do you call it?) moves to right on out edge then two legs cross, slight revers arch on the out edge, then counter forth starting by the out edge and right toe pick. I don't skate, I don't know if this is correct but I like this movement and very few skater do this. Yuzuru is one of a few. please correct if I'm wrong.
 
I just realized that Anna does this preparation maneuver for Lutz. In addition she goes to the in edge first then goes to out edge, drawing a S shape curve with upper body movement right then left. This is very beautiful and similar to yuzuru!
 
I wonder if Anna may do 4Lz more or less stable could she learn 3Lz(d)? I mean Lutz with axis swap and left-leg landing like Dmitriev does? I understand it this way: when Dmitriev attempts this jump he pushes harder to have more time to bypass instincts and let the brain interfere. Much more difficult jump than original lutz. Could even be a totally new jump.

It would allow to do 3Lz3F with +10% bonus and potentially maximize the SP BV.
2A(3A) / 3Lo // 3Lz3F SP would have the maximum possible BV according to ISU rules. Same correct for Alexandra and other potential quad ladies.
 
Arbitrary said:
I wonder if Anna may do 4Lz more or less stable could she learn 3Lz(d)? I mean Lutz with axis swap and left-leg landing like Dmitriev does? I understand it this way: when Dmitriev attempts this jump he pushes harder to have more time to bypass instincts and let the brain interfere. Much more difficult jump than original lutz. Could even be a totally new jump.

It would allow to do 3Lz3F with +10% bonus and potentially maximize the SP BV.
2A(3A) / 3Lo // 3Lz3F SP would have the maximum possible BV according to ISU rules. Same correct for Alexandra and other potential quad ladies.
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I’m not sure if that’s worth it.

2A, 3F // 3Lz-3Lo: BV 20.48
2A, 3Lo // 3Lz-3F: BV 20.52

That’s a 0.04 difference. It’s a lot of trouble to learn a very difficult combo that was practically invented this season just for a 0.04 difference.

Also, 3Lz landed on the wrong leg technically merits a GOE deduction. Not every judge makes that deduction, mostly because of confusion with this new combo, but many will. If I remember correctly Dmitriev received several 0s and low negatives the first time he did that combo because the judges simply didn’t know what to do. And that deduction could easily pass 0.04 marks, making her overall score lower.
 
karina17 said:
I’m not sure if that’s worth it.

2A, 3F // 3Lz-3Lo: BV 20.48
2A, 3Lo // 3Lz-3F: BV 20.52

That’s a 0.04 difference. It’s a lot of trouble to learn a very difficult combo that was practically invented this season just for a 0.04 difference.

Also, 3Lz landed on the wrong leg technically merits a GOE deduction. Not every judge makes that deduction, mostly because of confusion with this new combo, but many will. If I remember correctly Dmitriev received several 0s and low negatives the first time he did that combo because the judges simply didn’t know what to do. And that deduction could easily pass 0.04 marks, making her overall score lower.
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Here is the problem. We could see pretty close SP results.
Not that matters for duathlon (SP+FP) but could be practical if ISU's going to separate medals for SP and for FP.

Also the 3Lz(d) is much more complicated than plain 3Lz. ISU should think to adjust the Tables.
 
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