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2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

I am sure that the number is wrong but who cares if it is $90K or $9K? The thing is that there is an article with the heading: "Содержание фигуристки Медведевой обходится российскому бюджету (налогоплательщикам) в 6 миллионов рублей в месяц": "Medvedeva costs Russian budget (taxpayers) 6 million rubles per month" And it was trending in the front page of firefox news feed so that it is quite visible. That's how I saw it. I did not read it at first. Only when I was asked to show the receipts did I look through: their calculation: coaching+housing+food+flights+equipment/dresses is wrong. But that's not the point. The point is that people ask the financing question in a very visible way to the public. And in Russia it may mean something. Like it meant before.

Btw I have Amex black card - nothing special.

Because there is a magnitude of difference between the two numbers and incites completely different reactions?

So you're in here tossing out sensationalist headlines and numbers without even having read the article until people start questioning? Valid points cannot be made off bogus numerical data. As a consultant, you of all people should know that.
 
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I’m also not sure all the 3A will be completely dominating next season and beyond. This time last year, few probably thought Alina would be going through her challenges. I wouldn’t write off skaters like Alina, Liza for next season.

Thank you! I agree, I think many people put a little too much faith (and pressure) in the 3A. From the current point of view it seems likely but if I learned anything in my first season of properly following figure skating it's that you can't ever take anything for granted, so I'd wait a little before declaring pretty much every other skaters' career dead.
 
its bad that they choose Med but I guess they want to go for broke, if Med skates clean she will medal for sure. Tuk if she pops her 3axel it was over for her in Worlds. At least they got rid of Konstantinova who would have probably placed between 15 to 20th place.
 
I know Liza is not in top form yet but I really do think she has a chance to medal at worlds if she nails her 3A. Well Rusfed wants to send three girls of three different coach I guess.
 
I know Liza is not in top form yet but I really do think she has a chance to medal at worlds if she nails her 3A. Well Rusfed wants to send three girls of three different coach I guess.

or that they are banking on Med to skate clean coz she has higher scoring than Tuk
that's a big if, coz she hasnt skated clean all season.
 
// what is actually happening in russia

TAT: Everything was fair.

Besti: The coaching council are fair and experieced people. Nobody can arue about their Decision.

Butyrskaya was as always supporting Tuktik and is sorry because she showed good skates all season.

It’s been 17 years since Butyrskaya retired from competitive skating yet somehow she still finds ways to make me love her even more.
 
I am sure that the number is wrong but who cares if it is $90K or $9K? The thing is that there is an article with the heading: "Содержание фигуристки Медведевой обходится российскому бюджету (налогоплательщикам) в 6 миллионов рублей в месяц": "Medvedeva costs Russian budget (taxpayers) 6 million rubles per month" And it was trending in the front page of firefox news feed so that it is quite visible. That's how I saw it. I did not read it at first. Only when I was asked to show the receipts did I look through: their calculation: coaching+housing+food+flights+equipment/dresses is wrong. But that's not the point. The point is that people ask the financing question in a very visible way to the public. And in Russia it may mean something. Like it meant before.

Btw I have Amex black card - nothing special.

Ok, Russ Fed already said that they pay only for living expenses and flights. If you check what apartments cost in Toronto, it's roughly between $1000-3000 CAD/month depending on apartment state and location.

I doubt Medvedeva spends $87K on food a month are you kidding me LMAO
 
or that they are banking on Med to skate clean coz she has higher scoring than Tuk
that's a big if, coz she hasnt skated clean all season.


It was only by a small margin it’s not like zhenia’s victory was incredible and 222 with a fall is very generous, internationally her score would be lower. Sofia didn’t fall at Euros and she get 213.
 
Because there is a magnitude of difference between the two numbers and incites completely different reactions?

So you're in here tossing out sensationalist headlines and numbers without even having read the article until people start questioning? Valid points cannot be made off bogus numerical data. As a consultant, you of all people should know that.

Because it was not my point from the very beginning and you just picked the details that convenient to you in your argument. My point as I stated it in the first post was that the Fed's choice to select Medvedeva was partially driven by the fact that if she does not go to WC (where she has to deliver but that's a different story) her season will be a failure. And then questions may be asked why the state pays for her training in Canada when we have many coaches in Russia? And whose decision it was?

The article that I did not read at first was trending very high so that it was very visible with it's heading of "$90K per month". The number will supposedly stir the public no matter if it is right or wrong. Some other media events may further raise the topic. The investigation may start. And then it does not matter whether it is $90,000 $9,000 or $900. Officials may become responsible and accountable. That's why it is for their best interests that she goes to Saitama and shines there.

I am done with it...
 
Ok, Russ Fed already said that they pay only for living expenses and flights. If you check what apartments cost in Toronto, it's roughly between $1000-3000 CAD/month depending on apartment state and location.

I doubt Medvedeva spends $87K on food a month are you kidding me LMAO


Maybe it’s 87k rubles a month. Apartment in Toronto are very expensive.
 
I feel really badly for Liza. But no one should direct vitriol or hate at Medvedeva either- it’s not her fault and she doesn’t deserve anyone’s wrath. If you want to be mad at anyone be mad at the Russian Federation.

I wish all the girls luck at Worlds and hope Liza uses this as motivation.
 
Maybe it’s 87k rubles a month. Apartment in Toronto are very expensive.

87k Rubles isn't that bad... like $1300 per month, not unreasonable in 2019. It's actually on the cheap side. But even $87k a year is hard to believe if it's on just an apartment. My friend living in Manhattan (as in I walk out the door, go a couple blocks, and then I'm in Times Square) doesn't spend that much in a year on his luxury apartment.
 
Has anyone seen Sofia's instagram story? She is doing her free skate and there is a man doing the wrist moves...looks like Mishin right?
 
//what is actually happening in russia

https://tass.ru/sport/6166314

And the first person started to mention how Alina really needs to compete and suceed this season to not turn into Sotnikova (= narrative: have her gold medal regarded as a fluke... Or corrupt judges??)

Also the possibility of somebody getting injured is mentioned again...

Fcr result decisive for the the choice of the participants.
 
I agree this is a lose lose for both zhenya and liza...I prefer zhenya over Liza and have so much respect for what shes done for herself this season, but it should have been Liza to go, no question.

I cant imagine how it feels to come back so strong with a triple axel, make GPF and have a mostly strong season and your fed still chooses a skater who has been struggling all season who hasn't been able to really put out 2 strong back to back programs until now. Ugh, I really am gutted for her.

I think extra time not focusing on the stress of competing would have been beneficial for zhenya too while she still adjusts to life and skating in Canada.

Well, not like anybody can do anything about it, so j wish the best for both of them. But this was very stupid by rusfed.
 
Evgenia scoring 220 at Worlds would be really high - considering her seasons best score internationally was 204.89 at ACI, which was like 6 months before Worlds.
 
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