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2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

I never found the time to share my experience from JWC in Zagreb. Maybe now is a good time to change the subject a little bit... Vandevska already did a wonderful overview of the competition, so I will just highlight several things:

I just remembered this woman hitting the balding guy with a flower and the whole arena on that side laughing :laugh2:
 
Rodina is ugly. Only jealousy can make people acting like she does for not being amazing like Alina. She should be ashamed to attack a minor or she has no life and she’s bored.

Aren't Kostornaia, Sherbakova and Trusova not guaranteed two spots because they're just moving up? I thought I read something like this in the rules but I'm not too sure.
And can we please stop saying that skaters are done or have surely retired(I know, I might love my older russian ladies too much, but I will miss them so much) if they haven't announced it themselves? Like who knows, maybe Leonova will be one of the ladies to make the team next year ;)
Stasya who almost made the GPF deserves 2 spots. As special as 3a are I am not sure they should automatically usurp Stasya and others.
 
The world ranking list is updated after worlds. http://www.isuresults.com/ws/ws/wsladies.htm Sotskova is still ranked 9th and Konstantinova 13th.
Yes if Pogo and/or Radi returns next year it will only complicate things even further...It would be a total of 14 Russian ladies fighting for GP spots.
Ridiculous rankings! Lol! Rusfed needs to make sure Masha Anna and Elena do not get Grand Prix starts next season. They did nothing this season to deserve them and the competition is way too tough and deep to award Grand Prix spots to people who didn't skate hardly at all this season. Great girls though.
 
Ridiculous rankings! Lol! Rusfed needs to make sure Masha Anna and Elena do not get Grand Prix starts next season. They did nothing this season to deserve them and the competition is way too tough and deep to award Grand Prix spots to people who didn't skate hardly at all this season. Great girls though.
Didn't we say that about this season too though?
 
Sotskova is likely to fall out of the top 24. And Konstantinova is only guaranteed one spot even if she has both a top 24 score and a top 24 ranking.

But someone elsewhere mentioned that it's possible that Radionova and Pogorilaya could possibly qualify for return skater status.

No she isn't actually. She's going to be easily top 24 (20th by my calculations).

Yes it will be exciting to see how it all plays out. I agree with the 7 ladies that will probably get two spots. And I think that Konstantinova and Sotskova will get 2 spots each as they are both in the Top 24 world ranking list.

Sadly that would mean that Gubanova, Tarusina and Sakhanovich will be left out...

The Seasons best list is crazy this year for the Russian ladies. And poor Leonova who had her all time high result this year is only the 4th runner up to get a GP spot.

Top 24 World Standing guarantees 1 spot, not two. And typically once they give all the guaranteed spots, they go down the SB list for the rest, not WS.

And Gubanova, Tarusina and Sakhanovich will only be left out if Russian doesn't submit them. Otherwise they are guaranteed 1 spot, and so others just won't get two. And there's no way the Russian Fed will prioritize 2 spots for Sotskova - she'll get one if they submit her at all.
 
Oooh, no I just thought about the wrong thing. I thought that they are guaranteed two spots bc of their placements at junior worlds [emoji23]

Trusova is guaranteed two - one because she is 5th on the season's best list, and one because she is 24th on WS list (shows you how hard it is to get on top of the WS as a junior)
Kostornaya and Shcherbakova are each technically only guaranteed one from being on the SB list. However, I couldn't imagine them getting only one. I can't remember anyone having as much success in juniors as them and not getting two GPs. And I'm sure RusFed will want them to have two, so they'll pull whatever strings they have to. In the rules it does say that the JGPF champion and Junior Worlds medalists are taken into account when assigning GPs, so hopefully that will help, although it still doesn't guarantee them a second one. I hope Russia does the smart thing and doesn't submit Sotskova, no offense to her, but those GP spots would be much better given to Gubanova or Tarusina (:pray:). (and poor Tarakanova isn't even close to getting one, even though in any other country she would've been able to :( ).
 
18, if everyone got one.

Well, that's not completely true. As I understand it, the top 12 from the World Championships are guaranteed 2 spots. So Zagitova, Medvedeva and Samodurova will get two. That is six spots taken and 12 are left. At the moment there are 9 more ladies that are quaranteed one spot as they are in the top 24 in the World Ranking List or Seasons Best List. And if Radionova/Pogorilaya returns they are also guaranteed 1 spot.
RusFed would be interested in giving all their girls two spots so they have a chance to qualify for the Grand Prix Final. That means that RusFed will probably only submit 6 more girls beside Zagi/Medv/Samo. Who they will cut is anyone's quess.
 
Trusova is guaranteed two - one because she is 5th on the season's best list, and one because she is 24th on WS list (shows you how hard it is to get on top of the WS as a junior)
Kostornaya and Shcherbakova are each technically only guaranteed one from being on the SB list. However, I couldn't imagine them getting only one. I can't remember anyone having as much success in juniors as them and not getting two GPs. And I'm sure RusFed will want them to have two, so they'll pull whatever strings they have to. In the rules it does say that the JGPF champion and Junior Worlds medalists are taken into account when assigning GPs, so hopefully that will help, although it still doesn't guarantee them a second one. I hope Russia does the smart thing and doesn't submit Sotskova, no offense to her, but those GP spots would be much better given to Gubanova or Tarusina (:pray:). (and poor Tarakanova isn't even close to getting one, even though in any other country she would've been able to :( ).
It’s one spot garaunteed for 24 WS or 24 SB not both. So Trusova being on both doesn’t garauntee two.

She’s likely to get two, but they aren’t garunteed.
 
RusFed would be interested in giving all their girls two spots so they have a chance to qualify for the Grand Prix Final. That means that RusFed will probably only submit 6 more girls beside Zagi/Medv/Samo. Who they will cut is anyone's quess.

This may happen, but I do think it is better for more skaters who wouldn't be competitive for the GPF to have a chance to compete. I think it would be fine for some skaters to get 1 GP and a few Senior B's if it means more women get a chance to compete on the GP circuit. Obviously, the top seniors and graduating juniors should get two, but not necessarily anyone else.
 
So, should it be something like it?

#1 Zagitova
#2 Zagitova
#3 Medvedeva
#4 Medvedeva
#5 Samodurova
#6 Samodurova
#7 Konstantinova
#8 Sotskova
#9 Trusova
#10 Shcherbakova
#11 Tuktamysheva
#12 Kostornaia
#13 Sakhanovich
#14 Tarusina
#15 Gubanova
#16 Trusova
#17 Shcherbakova
 
Yes if Pogo and/or Radi returns next year it will only complicate things even further...It would be a total of 14 Russian ladies fighting for GP spots.
Judging by their instagram activity and interviews - I am 100% sure they will not return. Pogo is going to enjoy her newlyweds life and thinks about coaching career. Radi through her fs tv commentator job realized already she has zero chances to get to national team when she saw modern russian ladies competition and tech level in all its glory - which is apparent by her own remarks. So, yeah.. :rolleye:
Still, candidates for gp spots field is pretty much crowded even without them. As for national team - I wouldn't be surprised to see that RusFed will decide to make two separate teams (one for Euro and one for Worlds) as situtation with competition level in RusNat will become ridiculous.
 
So, should it be something like it?

#1 Zagitova
#2 Zagitova
#3 Medvedeva
#4 Medvedeva
#5 Samodurova
#6 Samodurova
#7 Konstantinova
#8 Sotskova
#9 Trusova
#10 Shcherbakova
#11 Tuktamysheva
#12 Kostornaia
#13 Sakhanovich
#14 Tarusina
#15 Gubanova
#16 Trusova
#17 Shcherbakova

Hmm. I would cut Sotskova, she really hasn't delivered this year and she was terrible at Russian Nationals.
I would also cut Sakhanovich, she didn't even qualify for Nationals and she had a terrible skate at the Russian Cup Final where she finished 11th.
That would enable to give one more spot to Tuktamysheva and Kostornaia.
The only ones with one spot would then be Konstantinova, Gubanova and Tarusina, and whoever skates the best of them can have the last 18th spot (the host pick). This requires that the Russian GP event is drawn at the end.
 
Apologies, as I imagine this has been covered before, but I dug around and found some conflicting answers. Which of Eteri's youngest skaters will and won't be Olympics eligible in 2022?
 
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