2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[BossT]

Anastasia TARAKANOVA - NEWS (29/04/2019)
https://youtu.be/xvhC49aWbBU

 

[katymay]

I would actually bet on Anna’s bright future any day! (Hopefully she stays healthy and injury free!) Just wait until she grows a little more and you will see.

Which reminds me, how about a small betting game for the next season? I know it is impossible to predict; plus we all probably have many favorites. But if we play, I choose Anna.

I suspect that Anna will overtake Sasha, far more often than what happened this year. I would bet right now that Anna will be the next Olympic Champion. Then again, once upon a time I thought Wakaba would be the next figure skating superstar. (lol) I hope both Anna and Sasha continue to be one-two next year. Or, allowing for Rika, in the top three at least. I predict Alina is done, I believe she is more interested in professional pursuits, (commercials and shows) and more power to her. She has earned it. I can't see her slogging along for another year, and why should she? The only senior holdover I predict that can compete in next years field is Tuk with her triple axel.

 

[karina17]

I swear Anna always does her best when people don't expect anything (4T, 3Lz3Lo after injury, 4Lz3T3Lo all came when people had low expectations of her)...so maybe we should all hush and not jinx it.

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

I suspect that Anna will overtake Sasha, far more often than what happened this year. I would bet right now that Anna will be the next Olympic Champion.

Dude....don’t jinx the poor girl. Betting against Tiny Boss too....I don’t know about that. :roll5:

Maybe we should make up some sort of an avatar bet

 

[Arbitrary]

Anna may overtake Sasha if the later agree.
Actually we cannot know for how long one of those early quad birds will survive as a competitive skater.

 

[Tolstoj]

Anna may overtake Sasha if the later agree.
Actually we cannot know for how long one of those early quad birds will survive as a competitive skater.

I think we may see inconsistent performances here and there: quads ruin the Eteri magic, where all her students used to skate clean every single time. Especially Anna can have some really rough days, while Sasha looks like she is more trained to quads, she can totally fall but still score higher than everyone else, at least technically.

On the other hand when both are clean, Anna is the better skater no doubt, because not only she has the quad but she can also skate in between the elements, she has great musicality and her spins are beautiful, while besides jumps Sasha Trusova's skating is kinda ugly (this season free program also made it look even worse) and her spins are also not as great.

 

[Scott512]

Anastasia TARAKANOVA - NEWS (04/2019)
https://youtu.be/xvhC49aWbBU

I hope Anastasiia gets an excellent sponsor she deserves one because her upside is still very very big.

Is she with Red Army now?

 

[Scott512]

I suspect that Anna will overtake Sasha, far more often than what happened this year. I would bet right now that Anna will be the next Olympic Champion. Then again, once upon a time I thought Wakaba would be the next figure skating superstar. (lol) I hope both Anna and Sasha continue to be one-two next year. Or, allowing for Rika, in the top three at least. I predict Alina is done, I believe she is more interested in professional pursuits, (commercials and shows) and more power to her. She has earned it. I can't see her slogging along for another year, and why should she? The only senior holdover I predict that can compete in next years field is Tuk with her triple axel.

Alina isn't going anywhere. She will be at the top again next year and you can make much more money endorsement wise that way. International companies aren't signing her up for long-term endorsements for her just to go away or go do shows with Plushenko.

Also to assume Sasha and Anna will be at the top is a risky assumption because of the depth they have to deal with especially in their own backyard. At their best they will be at the top. But other girls aren't going to crumble in their presence. No matter what happens Katy it will be exciting..

 

[anna gabriela]

I was bored so I decided to try and predict the GP assignments for our Russian Ladies next season, this is assuming all of 3A plus Liza get 2 assignments. The only real rule I followed is that I don’t think Alina, Lilbet and Zhenya can be at the same events due to seeding? The rest is guesswork based on skater/fed preferences, schedules and a lot of gut feeling.


SkAm:
Trusova
Samodurova
Sotskova
(Tursynbaeva)


SkC:
Medvedeva
Tuktamysheva
Kostornaia


IdF:
Zagitova
Tuktamysheva
Samodurova


CoC:
Medvedeva
Trusova
Kostornaia


CoR:
Zagitova
Shcherbakova
Konstantinova


NHK:
Shcherbakova
Konstantinova
Tarusina
(Tursynbaeva)


I have a strong feeling (not sure why) that Sasha and Alena will get an event together, as will Alina and Anna. Also Tarusina and Sotskova’s spots (and possibly one of Stasya’s but I’m betting on her to get Rostelecom host pick) could go to others e.g Sakhanovich, Gubanova etc etc I’m not sure about those they’re just kinda placeholders.

I'd love to hear anyone else's predictions!!

 

[drivingmissdaisy]

I also think that, after seeing her at Worlds, Alina will have a few more good seasons. I expect it helps that she'll never be burdened by being a heavy favorite in events against her training mates, because they can blow past her on TES. She always will have to fight, and not having a defensive mindset can only be a good thing.

 

[silveruskate]

Honestly I have never thought Anna's jumps are small. Her jumps have great upward lift so they don't lack height, especially considering how small she is. Some commented she has the "wrong" techniques as Evgenia's as they rely on upper body strength. Even this I cannot completely agree. She seems to start her Lutz from a low body position before she springs up, but that's not exactly the same as using excessive upper body strength. Also she was not trained in full capacity last year, and this is only her first international season.

Anna is still young and can improve, but the eyes don't lie and neither do the statistics. Except the quad Lutz of course (and I love her air position on it), she currently has some of the smallest jumps. I don't think that is a key marker judges are looking for so no problems.

 

[flanker]

I predict Alina is done

356th prediction of "Alina being done". If we count also predictions "Alina will never beat Rika" and "If Alina won't choose for a good wizard, evil witch will squeeze what remains of life inside her", we can easily get somewhere to 500.

 

[Jeanie19]

I was bored so I decided to try and predict the GP assignments for our Russian Ladies next season, this is assuming all of 3A plus Liza get 2 assignments. The only real rule I followed is that I don’t think Alina, Lilbet and Zhenya can be at the same events due to seeding? The rest is guesswork based on skater/fed preferences, schedules and a lot of gut feeling.


SkAm:
Trusova
Samodurova
Sotskova
(Tursynbaeva)


SkC:
Medvedeva
Tuktamysheva
Kostornaia


IdF:
Zagitova
Tuktamysheva
Samodurova


CoC:
Medvedeva
Trusova
Kostornaia


CoR:
Zagitova
Shcherbakova
Konstantinova


NHK:
Shcherbakova
Konstantinova
Tarusina
(Tursynbaeva)


I have a strong feeling (not sure why) that Sasha and Alena will get an event together, as will Alina and Anna. Also Tarusina and Sotskova’s spots (and possibly one of Stasya’s but I’m betting on her to get Rostelecom host pick) could go to others e.g Sakhanovich, Gubanova etc etc I’m not sure about those they’re just kinda placeholders.

I'd love to hear anyone else's predictions!!

Good guess. Liza is in back to back competitions.

 

[icybear]

356th prediction of "Alina being done". If we count also predictions "Alina will never beat Rika" and "If Alina won't choose for a good wizard, evil witch will squeeze what remains of life inside her", we can easily get somewhere to 500.

Lets add it to the "Puberty has destroyed Alina, she will never find her jumps again" or the "Alina should not go to Worlds cause she will bomb again." Yeah cause those predictions turned out just great.

 

[Tolstoj]

I was bored so I decided to try and predict the GP assignments for our Russian Ladies next season, this is assuming all of 3A plus Liza get 2 assignments. The only real rule I followed is that I don’t think Alina, Lilbet and Zhenya can be at the same events due to seeding? The rest is guesswork based on skater/fed preferences, schedules and a lot of gut feeling.


SkAm:
Trusova
Samodurova
Sotskova
(Tursynbaeva)


SkC:
Medvedeva
Tuktamysheva
Kostornaia


IdF:
Zagitova
Tuktamysheva
Samodurova


CoC:
Medvedeva
Trusova
Kostornaia


CoR:
Zagitova
Shcherbakova
Konstantinova


NHK:
Shcherbakova
Konstantinova
Tarusina
(Tursynbaeva)


I have a strong feeling (not sure why) that Sasha and Alena will get an event together, as will Alina and Anna. Also Tarusina and Sotskova’s spots (and possibly one of Stasya’s but I’m betting on her to get Rostelecom host pick) could go to others e.g Sakhanovich, Gubanova etc etc I’m not sure about those they’re just kinda placeholders.

I'd love to hear anyone else's predictions!!

Interesting guesses, I think they will repeat what they did this season to Samodurova (probably for Tarusina), sending one of the skaters with only one spot to Skate America and if she medals then the host pick as well.

Also is it official that Cup of China is back?

And does Gulyakova have a chance for a GP spot? She finished in the top 10 at RN, she got good scores at domestic events, not as good internationally but she won two Senior b events.

 

[Scott512]

356th prediction of "Alina being done". If we count also predictions "Alina will never beat Rika" and "If Alina won't choose for a good wizard, evil witch will squeeze what remains of life inside her", we can easily get somewhere to 500.

Lol agreed. Alina is done is funny to me.

Rika is promising very promising and had a good debut season. Alinai s already one of the greatest of all-time having won all the major titles in juniors and seniors. She and Rika are virtually the same age. So no Alina is not done not even close. it's perplexing that anyone would think that when she still at the top of her game. What is she supposed to do anyway? Lol.

 

[anna gabriela]

Interesting guesses, I think they will repeat what they did this season to Samodurova (probably for Tarusina), sending one of the skaters with only one spot to Skate America and if she medals then the host pick as well.

Also is it official that Cup of China is back?

And does Gulyakova have a chance for a GP spot? She finished in the top 10 at RN, she got good scores at domestic events, not as good internationally but she won two Senior b events.

That’s a good point about Skate America, my guess is they’ll do that for either Tarusina or Gubanova. I believe it’s official about CoC and unfortunately it’s very unlikely Gulyakova will get a spot, she’s not guaranteed any by SB, WS, comeback etc and there’s already too many girls that are ‘guaranteed’.

 

[flanker]

Lets add it to the "Puberty has destroyed Alina, she will never find her jumps again" or the "Alina should not go to Worlds cause she will bomb again." Yeah cause those predictions turned out just great.

And I also forgot "because of Alina Russia will lose 3 spots for the next year"...

 

[icybear]

And I also forgot "because of Alina Russia will lose 3 spots for the next year"...

Haha, I love that one.

 

[Amei]

Alina isn't going anywhere. She will be at the top again next year and you can make much more money endorsement wise that way. International companies aren't signing her up for long-term endorsements for her just to go away or go do shows with Plushenko.

Also to assume Sasha and Anna will be at the top is a risky assumption because of the depth they have to deal with especially in their own backyard. At their best they will be at the top. But other girls aren't going to crumble in their presence. No matter what happens Katy it will be exciting..

That's making a hasty bet. Alina had 1 knock-out competition in 2018-2019 and it's amazing that it was at Worlds, but 1 awesome competition and people are ignoring the Nationals and Europeans. Had Anna/Alexandra/Alena been age eligible, she wouldn't have had a European Championship and would have been banking on 3 very consistent skaters to skate so abysmal at Europeans that the Fed would do a skate-off at Russian Cup, and that she would win that.

As of right now she has weaker technical content than Shcherbakova and Trusova and we all know (based on past seasons) their PCS will rise quickly if they win medals early in the season - she won't have much of a PCS advantage over them come the later part of the season. I'm not saying she's going to fall off a cliff and be a skating disaster but she won't have the room for error that she had this past season because she doesn't have an equal technical content to some of her competition. And people have mentioned she's got knee issues, so that could hamper her ability to get a triple axel or quad consistent enough to put them in competition. To be at the 'top' (Worlds) she's gotta make it out of Nationals first.