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Really? I would say Trusova's 4T is more consistent than Anna's 4Lz.
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Really? I would say Trusova's 4T is more consistent than Anna's 4Lz.
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Agree Trusova’s quad toe was very consistent last season - I believe she only fell 2x and popped once, which is great for a quad. Both Anna and Sasha’s quad lutzes are not that consistent, but when Anna lands hers it’s much more impressive IMO due to the distance/height she gets, slight delay in rotation and superior landing position.
Somebody made this Alexandra Trusova - Quad History https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft5mepwyrOk
You can actually see how she got more stable and consistent over the last season with quads than 2 years ago
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Sasha's toe is not just consistent, but very impressive as well. It seems both girls have about equal success rate with lutz, though Sasha has already landed it in an official comp, while Anna technically hasn't. Also, do you think they will have 3Axel ready as well? Their coaches and girls themselves have said that it will be necessary for them, but I'm a bit skeptical about it.
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IMO, if Alina is a 9-10 in PCS, then Alena is an 11-12. Which of course does not exist.
Can you write about Alena without belittling comparisons with other skaters? Thanks. I don't see yet that Alena is better than Alina in PCS.
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I think Sasha's 4T is very impressive and consistent indeed, imo it's her best quad.
Regarding 3A, I do recall an interview where Sasha said she tried 3A before and it wasn't working for her. She seems much stronger now, her 2A is very good so I think she could try again and maybe get it.
Unfortunately I don't see Anna getting a 3A, her 2A is already small, forced and weak.
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What do you mean? Anna landed 4Lz at Rusnats.
SCHER quads look more consistent over TRU just because much lesser number of attempts (especially in Internationals). She also cannot do 4T with her broken leg (she herself explained).
Having more quads brings wider possibilities to adjust your program for today needs and abilities.
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That's why I said technically, because RusNats is not an official ISU competition, even though it's insanely competitive.
Statistics say that Sasha's 4 Lz more consistent than Anna's.
Sasha has landed 4Lz this season 6 of 9
Anna 5 of 13
Sasha is definitely more consistent in quads than Anna, you can look at the statistics for competitions this season. There's no doubt that Sasha is still the quad queen.
To Anna's credit, though, it's only her first year trying quads - Sasha's 4S success rate wasn't wonderful in her first year, she got so much better in her second. It's also worth mentioning that Anna's 4Lz seemed to get a lot more consistent after the season ended. At the Champions on Ice gala, she attempted 3 4Lz with no warm up and landed all 3, 2 of which with a -3T. (Compare this to the JWC gala, where she attempted 4 and landed only 1 at the very end, and it wasn't a clean landing.) She also started landing 4Lz3Lo after the season ended.
Competitions will be different, of course. But maybe Anna will surprise us this season. Anything can happen.
To Anna's credit, though, it's only her first year trying quads - Sasha's 4S success rate wasn't wonderful in her first year, she got so much better in her second. It's also worth mentioning that Anna's 4Lz seemed to get a lot more consistent after the season ended. At the Champions on Ice gala, she attempted 3 4Lz with no warm up and landed all 3, 2 of which with a -3T. (Compare this to the JWC gala, where she attempted 4 and landed only 1 at the very end, and it wasn't a clean landing.) She also started landing 4Lz3Lo after the season ended.
Competitions will be different, of course. But maybe Anna will surprise us this season. Anything can happen.
Thank you for the translation! I think I remember the Cup of Moscow, -and just my opinion, but I felt Sofia should have won. She was outstanding last year, never a finger out of place. I loved her programs, her choreography, her jumps were rock solid.
As far as 3A this year: I think it is going to be Anna that pulls ahead. I hope Trusova hangs in there because I have a soft spot for her in particular. No matter what happens, Trusova has changed the sport forever, there is no going back to 'pre-quad' days. She continued to attempt quads in every competition, even when she didn't need them to win. By the time the Olympics rolls around, I would not be surprised to see 10 different girls attempt a quad.
As far as 3A this year: I think it is going to be Anna that pulls ahead. I hope Trusova hangs in there because I have a soft spot for her in particular. No matter what happens, Trusova has changed the sport forever, there is no going back to 'pre-quad' days. She continued to attempt quads in every competition, even when she didn't need them to win. By the time the Olympics rolls around, I would not be surprised to see 10 different girls attempt a quad.
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It‘s just a simple comparison, no need to get so defensive about it. If you think Alina is better in PCS, then tell which categories so that there can be a discussion. Not just whine how she‘s being belittled. Because she isn’t lol. The problem isn‘t with Alina anyway, it‘s with the judging system that overscores new phenoms too quickly (not just Alina, obviously), making it seem as if they are perfect at 15, fresh from juniors when they aren‘t yet. There‘s no room to grow then, which is all andromache was saying.
I like the look of Anna‘s quad lutz way more, too. The thing is, though, that she fell more last season than she landed it and a fall right at the beginning of the program sets the wrong mood. I hope she can improve on that next season because while her skating skills aren’t as good as Sasha’s, she’s still more of the complete package, overall. Imo, I guess, of course. Sasha‘s 4T is as consistent as a quad can be, I see much more chances for her of keeping it than for her 4Lz. But then again, she improved the 4Lz over the course of the season, so who knows. I wonder why she ditched the 4S in favour of the lutz, it seemed to have improved in consistency at the end of the Olympic season. And whether Anna will do a 4F next season. Flip seems like an easier jump for her. And if she wants to have more than one quad, having two different types is better than two of the same because she doesn‘t have to jump one in combination.
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When did she say this? I was wondering why she didn't work on 4toe since she was doing them at 11/12 years old.
At 2018, in one of her interviews. That fracture following bad 3Lo landing. Somehow it influenced on the way 4T initiated.
And not influenced over much more COP-friendly 4Lz. Seems the reason why every other young girl wants to have 4Lz (COP). Seniors prefer 4S (consistency).
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Um, no? Figure skating is necessarily a comparative sport. People can have different opinions. I think Alena has far better skating skills than Alina, and her transitions look much less labored as a result. On performance quality they are closer, but I think Alena has more innate musicality than Alina, and an overall more fluid quality of movement that I personally prefer. If you disagree, that's fine.
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K. Sinitsyna and A. Tarakanova have been assigned to JGP Lake Placid.
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Is there a reason why there’s only one sub (Anna Tarusina) listed?
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Maybe it has something to do with visas and the fact that making last minute substitutions would be difficult?
