2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Alex65]

Having now watched Trusova's program on Japan Open, I gotta say... quads are cool ...

I greet you on the dark side of the force!

 

[voolfee]

Why? There is lots of good and insightful stuff to be found, with honest and pure intentions. There is also lot of insidious trash

Could you please at least slightly filter the articles you post? versiya.info is a very nasty site created by a sick person.

 

[Giltedge]

Samodelkina (born in 2007) in the meantime landed 3A in practice.
Sofia Akatyeva vs Sofia Samodelkina would be quite an interesting rivalry in the coming years!

Also looking forward very much to Veronika the Rocket Zhilina's head-to-heads with Sofia A., assuming there'll be some this season. To some extent, they are both unlucky that they fall into the same age-group, at opposite ends of the year.

(And curious about sister Alina, in her competitions, presumably younger-age girls. She looks something of a whizz too.)

 

[Decoder]

Take this for what it's worth ....

Navka is "sucking up" to Tutberidze for the sake of the "golden" career of Peskov’s daughter

The whole post

After reading the post, I at least can gather the following:

1. Navka has a daughter named Nadia, who is going to play a role together with Alina - cool.
2. Averbukh also has a show during almost the same period of time? Ok, but I remember he said something not very nice about Eteri's girls, humm, interesting, so there IS some show competition going on?
3. Then I read that Plushenko also has a show. Wow, I am jealous of Russian fans - they have so many shows.

I think I can find some useful info from this 'trash". Well, I read a lot of posts in GS that are similar in nature, and I am not worried at all.

Finally, as always, I want to thank Edwin for the translation work - I really appreciate it!

 

[katymay]

Also thank you to Edwin. I think you were the one that posted the long articles dealing with the costs of training in Russia, and another article about the different clubs. All very enlightening to me. Google translate is almost nonsensical to me, so I appreciate all your work.

 

[Vandevska]

Read my footnote ....

I don't know where and how to put these kind of articles either, for me they just show what's going on in Russian media and why, in my opinion, one shouldn't really be bothered by all this, least of all the athletes.
It still has a demoralising effect of course, the gossip and poisonous rumours never stop, and this makes skaters, trainers, judges and officials in charge anxious of speaking with any press apart from established agencies or through their own channels, i.e. FFKKR and FFKM internet and publications, authoritative websites and social media portals managed by the schools themselves etc.

It also means each and every skater, no matter how young or insignificant, will have to be on constant alert for social media traps. We see less and less live streams even with the adult skaters, because they know they will be compromised.

I don't know about the effect it has in Russia, but at least here on the forum it seems we're taking it less seriously, which is the thing to do. I swear last year we fought tooth and nail over every single thing as if it mattered the most.

 

[Vandevska]

Here's an idea: create a thread named "Junk articles on figure skating from Russian tabloids" and dump them there [emoji3]

I second this. [emoji23][emoji23]

 

[madison]

She should. She has an image to build, a reputation to protect. Being thankful to your team members, gracious to the opponents you defeated, respectful towards officials, judges and sponsors, all these are excellent traits in a champion on the rise. Aleksandra's parents taught her this, and emphasised it in their interviews: they want to raise Sasha as a good person with a well rounded character.

I hope Khrustalniy keeps their skaters media savvy, keeps their appearances in the media to a minimum so they always look and sound fresh and does everything needed to protect them from unnecessary exposure and possible exploitation by less than reputable media.
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I totally agree, Sasha proves once more that she is competitive, but very gracious and classy with her competitors. And also thankful to her coaches and fans.

 

[moriel]

I second this. [emoji23][emoji23]

I think that would be actually fun
At least, would bring much more understandment of the logic of russian fans and why they like or dislike certain things. Because we would have a spot for all the articles we are ashamed to translate and post here.

 

[JazzUp]

At least, would bring much more understandment of the logic of russian fans and why they like or dislike certain things. Because we would have a spot for all the articles we are ashamed to translate and post here.

I think that would bring us understanding of the logic of some paid shills and some extremely biased bloggers only

 

[flanker]

I totally agree, Sasha proves once more that she is competitive, but very gracious and classy with her competitors. And also thankful to her coaches and fans.

She has a great role model in Alina for all this

 

[Alex65]

I think that would be actually fun
At least, would bring much more understandment of the logic of russian fans and why they like or dislike certain things. Because we would have a spot for all the articles we are ashamed to translate and post here.

It will also become an immense pasture for all fans “not to love Russians” and an inexhaustible source of “arguments” for them. It’s like a Pandora’s box, which should not be opened. Think three times before.

 

[Fluture]

I think that would be actually fun
At least, would bring much more understandment of the logic of russian fans and why they like or dislike certain things. Because we would have a spot for all the articles we are ashamed to translate and post here.

Nope. I‘m sure analyzing trashy articles like that will not lead to “understanding of the logic of Russian fans and what they like“. If anything, it would bring understanding of SOME Russian fans’ twisted logic only and those “fans“ are usually the kind that don’t deserve any attention anyway.

Trolls are loud but I’d bet that most of the Russian fans of figure skating wouldn’t even look at an article like that other than to laugh and frown about the ridiculousness of it all.

Sure, there might be some who‘d enjoy discussing rumours about young people like Alina, Zhenya and all the others but I’d hardly call them “fans“. Or if anything, it’s certainly not figure skating they’re interested in but drama, scandal and gossip. And furthermore, I do think that articles spreading potentially harmful rumours about professional athletes should not be given more room and clicks if it can be avoided. I‘m very thankful to all of you who provide translations, of course. But I personally do not see any use in discussing slander, hate and rumours against and about young women (Alina‘s 17, she‘s not even of age!) that diminish their worth as people and the hard work they do every day. And I think it would violate the guidelines of this forum anyway. But you do you, of course. Whoever enjoys reading articles like that and finds them “fun“ can do that in private, I guess.

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Anyway, now, I heard Kanysheva is competing soon at a Cup of Russia stage? Does anyone know when exactly? I‘ve been waiting to see her skate and hope she‘s recovered fully from her injury. And on another note, Sima, Sotskova and Guliakova are assigned to participate in the Denis Ten Trophy. Will be nice to see Sima compete internationally before the start of the GP.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ht4N3L8JSmqpBXz/status/1181461795199799296

 

[thatbeatingheart]

It will also become an immense pasture for all fans “not to love Russians” and an inexhaustible source of “arguments” for them. It’s like a Pandora’s box, which should not be opened. Think three times before.

I don't think it would make a difference, facts that don't fit someones narrative are already being ignored anyway and while I appreciate Edwins work with the translations (Thank you!) I'd rather have the tabloid articles and blog posts in another thread instead of them cluttering this one. On the other hand that would give gossip an even bigger platform and I don't want that either. There's no ideal solution I guess. (Apart from ignoring this stuff altogether. )

 

[thatbeatingheart]

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Anyway, now, I heard Kanysheva is competing soon at a Cup of Russia stage? Does anyone know when exactly? I‘ve been waiting to see her skate and hope she‘s recovered fully from her injury. And on another note, Sima, Sotskova and Guliakova are assigned to participate in the Denis Ten Trophy. Will be nice to see Sima compete internationally before the start of the GP.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ht4N3L8JSmqpBXz/status/1181461795199799296

Yes, I also wanted to ask if anyone has a schedule of all the Cup of Russia stages? It's so difficult to find information when you can't read cyrillian.

 

[JazzUp]

Yes, I also wanted to ask if anyone has a schedule of all the Cup of Russia stages? It's so difficult to find information when you can't read cyrillian.

Here you go GT translated RusFed's page from Russian (cyrillic ) quite decently, for once

 

[moriel]

I think that would bring us understanding of the logic of some paid shills and some extremely biased bloggers only

Actually, i see a lot on this forums russians overreacting to certain things because they are kind of fed-up by bloggers, journalists, other FS and sports related people (and most of you guys would be if you were exposed to that). And then for non-russian users this looks kinda like we are suddenly going on a full range rampage for an innocuous remark or something like that.

 

[thatbeatingheart]

Here you go GT translated RusFed's page from Russian (cyrillic ) quite decently, for once

Awesome, thank you so much!

 

[Lunalovesskating]

3A+3T by Sofia Samodelkina
https://twitter.com/quadLz/status/1181594435857072130?s=20

 

[Edwin]

According to some Twitter, Maya Khromikh and Dar'ya Usachyova are scheduled to compete in Denis Ten Memorial. Now we only need a live stream to see how they do in Almaty, but almost all information concerning this event is very patchy.

CSKA also posted the start lists: http://ltk-cska.ru/news/1720-Denis-Ten-Memorial.html