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Please, if someone has contacts with the ISU, tell them not to cut the transmission of Skate Canada once the gala is over, continue 30 minutes to see the challenges of Trusova quads vs men...
2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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Hi. As they say in my country: "keep barking the dogs, it is a sign that I am moving forward". Sasha is making history in this sport, no matter if she retains the quadruples one, two or three seasons. This is her moment, she is already in the record books and the best part is that she is still very young, she has a lot of time to work on the components. This is a sport and I am very impressed with what Sasha is achieving!
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Thank you for that interview it was fascinating to hear the words of Ted Barton. He is always so uplifting when there's so much negativity coming from figure skating journalists. I don't think I know who Emily Clark is.
And thank you for this interview because it led me to Stasyas interview which was absolutely phenomenal. She talks about just about everything and it reinforces why I like her so much. She also seemed so different from all these phenom 15 year old Russians we've had in recent years.
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You’re funny. As far as I can tell, Vandevska was joking. And your comment is so telling on so many levels that I‘m not going into it. But yes, we are all wrong and you alone hold the ultimate truth: The only negative comments ever in this thread and every other thread on planet earth are solely and entirely directed against Team Tutberidze. Happy now?
Yes, I am sometimes funny, when meeting comments like this (twisting words, putting something into my mouth that didn't say or require, sweeping what really was said under the carpet, inability to accept being wrong etc.) there is no other way than laugh.
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Briefly: No.
Because I watch too much Russian fs on youtube it now suggests streams from random russain novice comps to me. Earlier today I acidentally clicked on one and saw Sofia Samodelkina at the end of her program. Does anyone know what comp it was and if I can find the scores and her skate somewhere? And if there where any other noteworthy skater at this comp?
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it easier to achieve Sasha's skills at the age of '15 than at '18 or later? Why's everyone so delighted with her young age when it's actually her advantage and not an obstacle?
And why would she work on components if the only thing she needs to gain enormous PCS are clean quads?
And why would she work on components if the only thing she needs to gain enormous PCS are clean quads?
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I think that a rule change is coming, although maybe not until after 2022.
However, in the meantime, the disadvantage to the quad jumper does not seem to be overwhelming. In the Skate Canada short program, Rika with a triple Axel gained only a 2.41 point advantage over Alexandra in jump base value. The other areas that Alexandra can make up ground in the SP, even under the current rules, are:
Non-jump elements base value: +1.30 in favor of Kihira
GOEs: +1.29 advantage to Kihira
PCSs: +1.95 advantage to Kihira.
All of this added up to the 6.95 point gap in the total segment scores. Easily overcome in the LP, even with a fall on the quad Salchow.
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Plushenko Academy Cup
SP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiyWm5MOvLE
FS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6VrzalDuDg
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Yuzuru is... Yuzuru. What an incredible young man. Named Anna, Aliona, A. Kanysheva and Kamila there too!
Rika was also very complementary about Alexandra, she said she started a new wonderful era or something like that.
Not trying to make any nationalistic generalizations, but even remembering Rika and Kaori's reaction to Elizabet's 4S, I have got a feeling that Japanese skaters have a very respectful and incredibly appreciative attitude towards ladies jumping quads. It's so lovely to see their sportsmanship and the level of humbleness, generosity and honor in every little comment and gesture.
They are a true definition of an athlete.
Also.. Nam noodle boy! Wow =)
so nice to hear that both Yuzuru and Nam learning from these wonderful ladies.
Haha, the moment he said he's glad he's not competing at the same event with ladies, and if ISU'd combine the events, it's game over
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Ted dropped a rumor that allegedly he heard Alexandra is already landing 3A in practice.
Not confirmed by Alexandra, but we also heard these rumors from 'the source' from some russian forums, part of which came true.
So... let's see.
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Comments like these makes it seem like 15 year olds have been jumping quads as a tale as old as time, and yet Sasha was only the second junior ever to do so.
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Ted dropped a rumor that allegedly he heard Alexandra is already landing 3A in practice.
Not confirmed by Alexandra, but we also heard these rumors from 'the source' from some russian forums, part of which came true.
So... let's see.
She has already attempted it in competition three years ago. As much as she's improved since 2016, I think we'll see it soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cfH6jpgVkQ
Thanks. Do you have a link to the protocols?
So a bit of a mixed succes with the 3A one clean (with combo), one fall and one step out. But is this the first time she has done it clean in comp?
Similairly to Sofia A I suppose we need to give her more time before she will be able to land these elements (3A/quad) consistently in comp...
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To add to Fool's reply above, I will answer the last question. Why? Because there are other ladies landing quads, even multiple quads, and multiple triple axels as well. So Sasha's tech advance won't be there forever and the PCS will have the same importance when ladies with similarly high technical content meet each oter in competition. So far people see a competition where only Sasha/Anna/Aliona/Alina (who without quads is still on par and she probably won't be quadless forever) compete gainst the rest, but they will meet each other at GPF (probably), RusNats and other competitions and of course with skaters like Rika and You Young, and soon with Kamila, Alysa, Aliona Kanysheva. The rest of the figure skating world will not be watching in apathy, this is just the beginning, not the end. So every weapon will be necessary, incl. PCS.
Honestly I hope they don't do this. She is probably tired, and there is more of a chance to get injured. It is a pressure cooker of a few days, and I've noticed so many skaters seem thoroughly wiped out in the Gala. (And I remember Nathan suffering a horrible injury in a Gala).
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I would think that it is impossible to achieve Sasha's skills at the age of 18 if you never jumped quads before. I wonder who said such a stupid thing that it can be otherwise.
I think that everyone is delighted that she is a wonderful girl with a sunny smile. I wonder who are "everyone" delighted that she has managed to learn all those jumps at 15 rather than 18? To me they are quite stupid people to say that.
She needs to work on components to close pcs gap with her competitors. So far despite quads her pcs are not that high. They were much lower than Zagitova, Kostornaya, and Kihira both at JO and SC. And those are her main competition. In fact, despite her big time win at SC she was only 4th pcs wise. No, they are anything but enormous that's why she needs to work on it.
I am glad to be of help.
