Her music has the right amount of time.
We can hear it from the practice video https://youtu.be/ILOrVKD6QLI?t=179
2:50.
And based on her SP video she didn't go over her music with this final move. Looks like one more wrong call today.
I posted this in the event thread: Has anyone figured out Alina's time violation yet? In the performance, when she lowered her hand on the final pose, it was on the last note of the music, so it doesn't look like she went over it. In morning practice, the announcer said her music time was 2:50. So where did the time violation happen - it should be made to clear to the team because this is an easy fix.
So was her program too long and the announcer got it wrong, or did she start too early (before the music)? Because it looks like she ended on the music.
But her music time was announced as 2:50 by the announcer at the event. So for her competition program to have been 2:52, she would've had to end 2 seconds after the music, or start 2 second before the music. It looks like she ended on the music, so I'm confused.
That means nothing. Music is timed by a volunteer using a stopwatch at practices. It's not binding and it doesn't even necessarily have to be correct. (On a separate note: shall we investigate the volunteer along with the Tech Controller? I vote we lock her up!)
I thought the hand-drop was the final pose, like she starts to reach out but realizes it's hopeless and gives up and drops her hand. She did the same thing at the Russian test skates.
The hand drop is right on the last note of the music, of course it's a part of the choreography/program.
This is apparently not the case.
It said after her final pose she moved in a manner that evidently looked as if her program wasn't finished and thus the violation
It is supposed to be a quote from RusFed but I don't know if it is legit or not, I did not post it
That quote was amazing. The hand drop is clearly on the last note of the music. Whoever it came from, all I have to say is don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. We have eyes and ears and some of us can still form our own opinions based on that we see and hear.
I hope the judges at least explained the violation so that Alina's team can prevent it from happening again.
What boggles my mind is why there's a music time violation to begin with. I think no one should get "more" ice time, but if music is submitted and vetted ahead of time, then that should eliminate these errors. Why are they being told the music is too long after it's used?? Giving point violations to something like music (which could easily corrupt or have a transfer error) isn't related to the skating at all!
It's the skater's/team's obligation to make sure their music time is correct. It doesn't get vetted by the federation, ISU or any panel at each competition. I think there is - or at least was - also a difference between
music time and
skating time and this is also taken into consideration when it comes to time violations, but I would need to go back and check.
Anyway, if you time the music like they do at competitions - by using a stopwatch - her SP music and skating time is about half a second over 2:50. Also important to note that what is actually measured here really is the music time. If your file contains several seconds of silence before or after the music begins, it does not get counted. Only music time.
This is not the first time a skater received a time violation. I mean last season Samohin showed up with a SP that was like 3.5 minutes long. How does that even happen? I also remember an early competition two years ago where a Serbian skater got a -1 because her program ended up being 2:51 and that is where the skating time came into play as well.
Not trying to defend Mariah, but I believe judges only go back and review jumps if they know something usually goes wrong with a skater's jump, or if they have some weird anomaly. In this case, Alina had a weird +3Lo and sloppy landing, creating more scrutiny. For some other skaters with jumps that look okay to the naked eye, there's simply not enough time to go back and review everything.
I'm not against strict panels, but they should be universally applied. If those are the rules, then apply them by all means, but not applying them to certain skaters cancels out the purpose of the rule!
still mad about Kostornaia's phantom UR call
I'm not sure if they are allowed to go and look at review if they know a skater usually has a problem with a jump. But you're right about the anomaly part - if the landing or another part of the jump looks dodgy, that's grounds for asking for a review.
This thread is a gift that keeps on giving. The order of the skaters after SP seems quite correct and the panel was equally strict across the board. Neither Alina or Alena are at risk of losing their GPF spot over their SP scores here. So let's all untie our panties from that twist they're in right now and watch the free today.