Is there an ETA for when the total scores will be announced? I think we are eager for results.
Allowing them to converse causes judges to place their own individual biases upon each other, which could affect the score. Judging is not a debate or discussion, nor should it be. They are supposed to be there to do their job, not somebody else's.
Advocating for judgement without any option of debate or discussion, what a troublesome legal system, do you wish for humanity to live in the dark ages again? There’s something called a team effort. People working together to create something better than what they can do individually. It’s not “doing someone else’s job” to give a team member information, that’s part of everyone’s job on a team. A judge should be trying to get as much information as possible.
You say “the score could be affected”...why do you only see this as a negative? The score can be affected positively, as judges who would have previously given a “less correct” score are instead exposed to new information and viewpoints that have a better take on the topic. This is how all beneficial change happens: People’s opinions are affected by encountering a better or more knowledgeable perspective, which could be as simple as one person having a lapse of concentration and another person being there to fill the gap.
If I am cooking an egg and don’t hold the pan in the optimal way, and someone spots me and tells me, I have now been positively influenced in that moment; a crucial moment where I must make proper judgement immediately, or else the result will be worse.
And your unwillingness/inability to provide evidence when making generalized, unsubstantiated claims that tech panels are corrupt says it all too.
The evidence has already been discussed ad nauseam, I simply don’t want to waste more time writing about something that has been thoroughly examined over the years, to someone who is already aware but chooses ignorance. On the topic of evidence though, some of it will simply never be public, as there are skaters and people involved with skating who are only comfortable giving information in private.
Plushenko's last variation where he held his blade and was significantly different from his sit position. The GOE for those spins should have been marked low because of the poor quality of positions, but the tech call was correct according to the rules - although this is an example of subjectivity which doesn't mean that the panel was being shady (for example, I don't think Lambiel deserved the last variation in this spin because it didn't look like 2 revolutions in the actual position
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exEJ_GaDJI0#t=3h3m15s), but even though the tech panel saw differently I’m not gonna accuse them of corruption)
Lambiel wasn’t given credit for that last spin position, what are you talking about? I never said this particular panel was shady either, but that doesn’t mean they made the best judgement. A poor judgement made in good faith is ultimately just as bad as a corrupt judgement, in end result. This call is more subjective, yes, but getting credit for a difficult variation is not about it being “different looking”, it’s about the actual difficulty.
Hunching forward somewhat in a sit spin and holding your leg and arm in an easy bent position is not really a difficult variation, it doesn’t take much body strength or flexibility or extra balance. Plushenko’s free leg on the Donut/Cannonball attempt should form more of a circular shape, or his head should be further down. You can see in his other attempts the free leg was a bit less lazy (but still questionable). That first variation attempt of a Pike position in his SP sit-change-sit was also highly questionable, he executed it better in the LP, the leg was a little straighter there, more towards an ideal Pike. With both of those positions in the same spin being noticeably lacking, and even the edge change feature looking questionable on rotation/depth by the time he gets into a sit, it certainly doesn’t provide any incentive to give benefit of the doubt. The last position was too poor to let slide.
