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Wouldn't surprise me if TSL broke this story before Eric had a chance to speak to Meagan himself - those two are trashy and awful and everything wrong with figure skating.

My hope is that this will convince Meagan not to go on their Godawful show anymore...no one should go on their show TBH, they're nasty, toxic bullies. I actually reported them to YouTube (among other things their constant insutiatons about Aliona K and Sergei Rozanov were utterly disgusting - Aliona is a minor after all), but alas no response yet.

I have to say I'm surprise Meagan did make that post! I'm not sure she's a popular as Eric :/ Is she getting much support?
There were rumours before TSL broke the story. Meagan herself talked about drama and not coaching and not doing shows before TSL ever said anything.

If anything, Meagan seems to be closer with them now...

Yeah, people seem upset at Eric. KMT's especially is liking every post about feeling bad for W/M and going to the Olympics with W/M.
 
Meagan was already talking about not doing any shows with Eric some days ago.
Must have missed that...

Don't mind me, I just want to stick the boot into TSL whenever I can, the same way they do to the skaters they hate. 😡 They shouldn't be allowed to get away with the horrible things they say.

On the other hand, Eric might not have been completely clear about why he didn't want to do shows, there's a big difference between not wanting to skate with your longtime partner because you're taking a break and not doing so because you're forming a new pair and going back to competing.
 
Yeah, people seem upset at Eric. KMT's especially is liking every post about feeling bad for W/M and going to the Olympics with W/M.
I think him coming back with Vanessa doesn't help. A lot of people already don't really like her. If he had decided to come back with someone like Lubov, I don't think people would be too angry.
Edit: But obviously, we don't know who approached who first
 
I think him coming back with Vanessa doesn't help. A lot of people already don't really like her. If he had decided to come back with someone like Lubov, I don't think people would be too angry.
Edit: But obviously, we don't know who approached who first
I think public sympathy is always on the side of the partner seen as the “dumpee“ in these situations. Not that there seems to have been anyone dumped here—both Meagan and Eric have been retired from competition for years, and haven’t skated together in a long time even for shows, etc., as far as I know.
But you may be on to something. I don’t think there would be nearly as much consternation if, for example, Eric and Liubov decided to pair up, as she is seen as having been the wronged party in the breakup of her last pair.
i also suspect that if the situation were reversed and, say, Danny O’Shea approached Meagan about teaming up, she would have accepted without a second thought. And there would be nothing wrong with that either.
 
Who I feel bad for the most: Trennt/Evelyn, Camille/Drew and Julianne Séguin
I feel bad for the aforementioned pairs because Skate Canada has the tendency to gloss over budding pairs and rely on the old guard. BUT it's a sport after all, and there are no guaranteed spots. I hope this news actually fire all of them up and improve. I just feel bad for Julianne because I think she's the one that truly deserved a career revival.

Who I feel ambivalent towards: Vanessa
Vanessa and her silence toward the Cipres situation. I would love to know how Skate Canada will spin her story for the OG if the pairing decides to go for it. Great for the racial diversity aspect that they're trying to advocate for but they will not be able to escape the reason why she had to end her career in the first place. I wonder if they will actually force her to speak up on it.

Who I feel like should keep quiet: Kirsten
I didn't forget how you dealt with Moscovitch. You're still the top Canadian pair regardless of the merits of Vanessa and Eric. You don't need to be all huffy about it.

Who I have empathy for but with ambivalence: Meagan
I empathize with Meagan for losing a source of income, especially in C-19 times. I'd be more supportive of Meagan if she didn't air out her thoughts about migrant workers and her terrible generalizations about Anna's skating and her physique. That was a no, girl.

Who I feel excited for but with ambivalence: Eric
I liked Eric's skating a lot when he competed. I'm happy that he's feeling better because the last few years of his active career was marred with injuries. He really should've picked Julianne (or anyone else not Vanessa) instead. Choosing Vanessa was a poor choice plus it looks terrible on his position as an ISU Athlete Representative. (Is he still one?)

Main takeaway:
This drama could have been avoided if he talked to Meagan properly in the first place. And picked a better partner.
While I empathize with Meagan, I feel there's not enough of a binding obligation that make this Charlie Bilodeau (or 2014 Nikita) - level bad of a betrayal. I think I would be more upset if they were competing but both of them amicably retired together in 2018. Sure, losing a trusted partner for ice shows sucks but we don't even know when ice shows can come back on in Canada. Furthermore, I think Eric took account that Meagan also now has a baby to take care of and now lives in a different province. That might be why he opted for a different partner too.

I will reluctantly say that I'm #teamEric in this drama despite of his lack of miscommunication and partner choice. Because in hindsight, there's nothing really stopping him from competing and coming back with someone else. Again, he really should've chosen someone else because that is where the biggest criticism is coming from. Plus, if this pairing does come into effect, Eric/Vanessa has to clarify their competitive stance and be realistic with their goals. It's too late for them to campaign for Beijing despite of their previous accolades and individual skills. (Don't even try to prop them up, Skate Canada. I'm watching you.) If it is to gain new experience and expand their artistic horizons, then that's cool. If they are truly trying to aim of an OG spot though....well I guess I'm here for the drama and the pettiness that will ensue.
:popcorn:

edit: for a bit of clarity
edit #2: removed the chunk about Meagan and the ladies. Got too carried away.
 
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Who I feel bad for the most: Trennt/Evelyn, Camille/Drew and Julianne Séguin
I feel bad for the aforementioned pairs because Skate Canada has the tendency to gloss over budding pairs and rely on the old guard. BUT it's a sport after all, and there are no guaranteed spots. I hope this news actually fire all of them up and improve. I just feel bad for Julianne because I think she's the one that truly deserved a career revival.

Who I feel ambivalent towards: Vanessa
Vanessa and her silence toward the Cipres situation. I would love to know how Skate Canada will spin her story for the OG if the pairing decides to go for it. Great for the racial diversity aspect that they're trying to advocate for but they will not be able to escape the reason why she had to end her career in the first place. I wonder if they will actually force her to speak up on it.

Who I feel like should keep quiet: Kirsten
I didn't forget how you dealt with Moscovitch. You're still the top Canadian pair regardless of the merits of Vanessa and Eric. You don't need to be all huffy about it.

Who I have empathy for but with ambivalence: Meagan
I empathize with Meagan for losing a source of income, especially in C-19 times. I'd be more supportive of Meagan if she didn't air out her thoughts about migrant workers and her terrible generalizations about Anna's skating and her physique. That was a no, girl.

Who I feel excited for but with ambivalence: Eric
I liked Eric's skating a lot when he competed. I'm happy that he's feeling better because the last few years of his active career was marred with injuries. He really should've picked Julianne (or anyone else not Vanessa) instead. Choosing Vanessa was a poor choice plus it looks terrible on his position as an ISU Athlete Representative. (Is he still one?)

Main takeaway:
This drama could have been avoided if he talked to Meagan properly in the first place. And picked a better partner.
While I empathize with Meagan, I feel there's not enough of a binding obligation that make this Charlie Bilodeau (or 2014 Nikita) - level bad of a betrayal. I think I would be more upset if they were competing but both of them amicably retired together in 2018. Sure, losing a trusted partner for ice shows sucks but we don't even know when ice shows can come back on in Canada. Furthermore, I think Eric took account that Meagan also now has a baby to take care of and now lives in a different province. That might be why he opted for a different partner too.

I will reluctantly say that I'm #teamEric in this drama despite of his lack of miscommunication and partner choice. Because in hindsight, there's nothing really stopping him from competing and coming back with someone else. Again, he really should've chosen someone else because that is where the biggest criticism is coming from. Plus, if this pairing does come into effect, Eric/Vanessa has to clarify their competitive stance and be realistic with their goals. It's too late for them to campaign for Beijing despite of their previous accolades and individual skills. (Don't even try to prop them up, Skate Canada. I'm watching you.) If it is to gain new experience and expand their artistic horizons, then that's cool. If they are truly trying to aim of an OG spot though....well I guess I'm here for the drama and the pettiness that will ensue.
:popcorn:

Anyway, Meagan should compete for that 2nd Ladies OG spot. Let's be real, she has a higher chance of getting an OG berth than Eric/Vanessa. She has all of her triples and a 3-2 combo will suffice enough to get into the LP event. I wish I was joking about this but I'm not.

edit: for a bit of clarity

I don’t think Eric wanted to competitive skate and sought Vanessa out. They’re friends and she was preparing for this Olympics before everything went down, so I see it as more helping a friend with her dream. I don’t think he would be returning if it was anyone else and that’s why he didn’t ask Meagan.

I also don’t get what you mean about second ladies spot, there is no second spot. They only have one.
 
1) Julianne has decided not to come back a long time ago : concussions. There is no need to feel sorry for her. She gave everything she had to the sport and the sport took way too much of her. Health is a serious matter.

2)there is no 2nd spot for ladies at the OG.. I do not see how Meagan could even make top 3 at Canadian nationals in singles.. seriously. Madeline has a strong 3lz-3t combo. Alison and Gabby are ahead of anything Meagan could do. Meagan hasn't done a flip and a loop in over a decade. Let alone combos harder than 3s-2t-2t. She has not competed with all the new difficulties in steps and spins to get level 4. Please, let's not talk about this anymore.. I really feel it is disrespecting the progress our ladies have done in the recent years. Sure, nobody has filled Kaetlyn's skates and Gabby is still looking for her old shape but some of the other girls are on an upwards trajectory and there is only ONE spot available.
 
I don’t think Eric wanted to competitive skate and sought Vanessa out. They’re friends and she was preparing for this Olympics before everything went down, so I see it as more helping a friend with her dream. I don’t think he would be returning if it was anyone else and that’s why he didn’t ask Meagan.
that is an interesting angle
 
I'm trying to find out more about this on Twitter and am I being a jerk or is it really annoying when people don't spell out the names of skaters in posts?

Like...if you're gonna post negative stuff about people at least have the courage of your convictions to spell out the full name so your content can be found. It's not like we won't know who E*ic R*df*rd is when we stumble across it.
 
Who I feel bad for the most: Trennt/Evelyn, Camille/Drew and Julianne Séguin
I feel bad for the aforementioned pairs because Skate Canada has the tendency to gloss over budding pairs and rely on the old guard. BUT it's a sport after all, and there are no guaranteed spots. I hope this news actually fire all of them up and improve. I just feel bad for Julianne because I think she's the one that truly deserved a career revival.

Who I feel ambivalent towards: Vanessa
Vanessa and her silence toward the Cipres situation. I would love to know how Skate Canada will spin her story for the OG if the pairing decides to go for it. Great for the racial diversity aspect that they're trying to advocate for but they will not be able to escape the reason why she had to end her career in the first place. I wonder if they will actually force her to speak up on it.

Who I feel like should keep quiet: Kirsten
I didn't forget how you dealt with Moscovitch. You're still the top Canadian pair regardless of the merits of Vanessa and Eric. You don't need to be all huffy about it.

Who I have empathy for but with ambivalence: Meagan
I empathize with Meagan for losing a source of income, especially in C-19 times. I'd be more supportive of Meagan if she didn't air out her thoughts about migrant workers and her terrible generalizations about Anna's skating and her physique. That was a no, girl.

Who I feel excited for but with ambivalence: Eric
I liked Eric's skating a lot when he competed. I'm happy that he's feeling better because the last few years of his active career was marred with injuries. He really should've picked Julianne (or anyone else not Vanessa) instead. Choosing Vanessa was a poor choice plus it looks terrible on his position as an ISU Athlete Representative. (Is he still one?)

Main takeaway:
This drama could have been avoided if he talked to Meagan properly in the first place. And picked a better partner.
While I empathize with Meagan, I feel there's not enough of a binding obligation that make this Charlie Bilodeau (or 2014 Nikita) - level bad of a betrayal. I think I would be more upset if they were competing but both of them amicably retired together in 2018. Sure, losing a trusted partner for ice shows sucks but we don't even know when ice shows can come back on in Canada. Furthermore, I think Eric took account that Meagan also now has a baby to take care of and now lives in a different province. That might be why he opted for a different partner too.

I will reluctantly say that I'm #teamEric in this drama despite of his lack of miscommunication and partner choice. Because in hindsight, there's nothing really stopping him from competing and coming back with someone else. Again, he really should've chosen someone else because that is where the biggest criticism is coming from. Plus, if this pairing does come into effect, Eric/Vanessa has to clarify their competitive stance and be realistic with their goals. It's too late for them to campaign for Beijing despite of their previous accolades and individual skills. (Don't even try to prop them up, Skate Canada. I'm watching you.) If it is to gain new experience and expand their artistic horizons, then that's cool. If they are truly trying to aim of an OG spot though....well I guess I'm here for the drama and the pettiness that will ensue.
:popcorn:

Anyway, Meagan should compete for that 2nd Ladies OG spot. Let's be real, she has a higher chance of getting an OG berth than Eric/Vanessa. She has all of her triples and a 3-2 combo will suffice enough to get into the LP event. I wish I was joking about this but I'm not.

edit: for a bit of clarity
This is kind of what I mean, lol. With Eric's "betrayal" of Meagan (which I personally don't think is too bad) and Vanessa's past, there's kind of something for everyone to be mad at.
 
This is kind of what I mean, lol. With Eric's "betrayal" of Meagan (which I personally don't think is too bad) and Vanessa's past, there's kind of something for everyone to be mad at.
Well, Twitter has already decided Eric is the root of all evil, so this pairing will probably be dead in the water.

Apparently Eric is also an "abuse apologist"? Must have missed that memo.

Speaking of memos...memo to self: Don't get skating info from Twitter, that place is a dumpster fire.
 
Well, Twitter has already decided Eric is the root of all evil, so this pairing will probably be dead in the water.

Apparently Eric is also an "abuse apologist"? Must have missed that memo.

Speaking of memos...memo to self: Don't get skating info from Twitter, that place is a dumpster fire.

yep
 
They all do. H/B were at Worlds too and train in the same place. H/D just came out of quarantine today not that it's relevant to this discussion. And by that means, Keegan would have been in quarantine as well, meaning by your standards he wouldn't have gone anyway.
Doesn’t Keegan train in the US?
 
I don’t think Eric wanted to competitive skate and sought Vanessa out. They’re friends and she was preparing for this Olympics before everything went down, so I see it as more helping a friend with her dream. I don’t think he would be returning if it was anyone else and that’s why he didn’t ask Meagan.
Oh wow, thanks for mentioning this. I didn't know much about them having a great friendship. That's a nice gesture for Eric to help out Vanessa for a final push. I guess since it's the Olympic season, my thinking went straight into thinking about the berths. :ROFLMAO: Despite of my gripes with Vanessa, I can't help but to forward what they bring in the upcoming season then.
I also don’t get what you mean about second ladies spot, there is no second spot. They only have one.
I stand corrected. I thought Maddie had a higher finish in Stockholm. I somewhat erased the Ladies LP event in my memory and opted to remember her amazing SP skate.

I guess this is for @4everchan too: I just wanted to Julianne to come back in general. My heart still hurts for her. And for Lubov, too. :cry: I just wanted all of them to have a redemption for how their careers ended. I wished they had someone to help them....

Anyway, I didn't mean to disrespect the other ladies and their progress of how far they have come by Meagan. I'll remove that part of my post then to be relevant to the topic.
 
Well, Twitter has already decided Eric is the root of all evil, so this pairing will probably be dead in the water.

Apparently Eric is also an "abuse apologist"? Must have missed that memo.

Speaking of memos...memo to self: Don't get skating info from Twitter, that place is a dumpster fire.
i was on twitter for a brief period of time... and anything sports related is awful.... so much bashing.... i left right away.
 
I am glad to hear Canada may have another team, but I will be hoping more that a younger team will come out this season explosive and strong. Skate Canada needs to look at the big picture. MTM will likely retire, TE are improving each year but at a slower pace IMO. Then the couple of teams seem to be being overlooked LoiAnn, Camille.
I fear to much will be invested in older veteran teams leaving Team Canada in the same position we were in 4yrs ago after all those retirements. 4yrs has almost past and we are not in a much better place when looking at long term. We have skaters that will be going on JGP, and I hope they can improve plenty to be considered for Senior spots after this season.
Canada needs to get competitions going and take a look at the whole picture.
 
Who will coach Vanessa/Eric? I’m assuming D/R old coach Bruno Marcotte is out since he is Meghan’s husband. Vanessa/Eric - They are both in MTL i think and Richard Gauthier is out.. I don’t think there are any other strong pair coaches in Quebec. I wonder who will coach them
 
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