Kamila Valieva
- Thread starter Spirals for Miles
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Yeah, it's quite funny to read some comments... it was "almost" perfect and it's just test skates and the beginning of the season and she will only get better..I like how landing a 3A and a quad (yes, aware it wasn't great but still) is considered "a disaster skate"
I like how landing a 3A and a quad (yes, aware it wasn't great but still) is considered "a disaster skate"
Kamila looks fantastic for early in the season. I am so excited to see her international senior debut!
Maybe she was a little stiff. She attempted 3 quads and a 3A and her program is fully packed, very demanding technically and artistically. For me it’s the most difficult program and she’s amazing to cope with that
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Jonathan Gurreiro said that Kamila was kissed by the gods.
Storm was great... but this new short program is better. I think the music does a better job tying the elements together and it allows for skating bigger in the step sequence. There's no jerky arm movement here which she's kind of had in other programs. I know this isn't the final dress, but I really, really liked this long dress with this program. They way it flowed was like it was interpreting the music in itself. I kind of worry that the the way she starts the program with moving her head could lead towards the timer being started early and thus a time violation. I think the very beginning and the end of the step sequence could be improved upon with perhaps with different choreographer's eye. I have zero doubt whatsoever that this program will beat Kostornaia's WR which is at 85.45.
I just rewatched the long program hoping it would come across better. And I just don't think it's a good program. The movement alternates between being too abstract, too literal, too jerky, too empty. When doing the big elements there's going to be some emptiness but the music just drones on and on and it becomes really annoying. The choreographic sequence is kind of blah and ta-da-ish, but shows she could do a great one if given the opportunity. There has been practically zero effective use of spirals in Russian programs since Lipnitskaya and Sotnikova at the 2014 Olympics. The energy level throughout is just kind of mellow and meh. The step sequence is very workmanlike. Capable, but it does not have elation the moment and music calls for.
But subconsciously, I honestly think the costuming, more than anything else, may be what is turning many off from the program. The costume looks like a Halloween costume of a marching band outfit put together by someone's grandmother. Half covering the boots with black tights looks sloppy. It's the opposite of elevating and it's a bit unbelievable that this would be the image they would want to be best known for. The lack of striking image is what may be deflating the program from the beginning.
I'm not sure how a long dress interferes with doing the quads, but a flowing long dress like the one used in the SP could help give the eyes something to focus on during the more empty parts. And just overall, it gives the eyes more to focus on. I find that a long flowing dress to almost act as extra pair of arms interpreting the music. It leads to a fuller appearance and the program gets a bit drier when that's lost. I think an overly literal and theatrical costume should take a backseat to just being beautiful on the ice. If they stick with Bolero, I'd perhaps looks for some inspiration in steampunk or gothic fantasy dresses.
Valieva should own the long flowing dress like Zagitova owned the tutu.
Valieva's LP is not as bad as the long program Evgenia first used and then dumped during the Olympic season. But in it's current form, it's also not as good as Zagitova's LP which had some charm, a strong image, and steadily building energy to it. But LP was lacking in a few obvious ways and the aspiration should be to go way beyond it. Zagitova's LP at the Olympics is the least viewed of 2018 Olympic winners for a good reason IMO... OTOH, she has the most instagram followers.
Valieva should want a program and striking image that will help put her over when both she and Trusova go clean... or keep her medaling over Rika/Alysa/Young if she rotates everything but has a couple of falls. I don't think this is it.
I just rewatched the long program hoping it would come across better. And I just don't think it's a good program. The movement alternates between being too abstract, too literal, too jerky, too empty. When doing the big elements there's going to be some emptiness but the music just drones on and on and it becomes really annoying. The choreographic sequence is kind of blah and ta-da-ish, but shows she could do a great one if given the opportunity. There has been practically zero effective use of spirals in Russian programs since Lipnitskaya and Sotnikova at the 2014 Olympics. The energy level throughout is just kind of mellow and meh. The step sequence is very workmanlike. Capable, but it does not have elation the moment and music calls for.
But subconsciously, I honestly think the costuming, more than anything else, may be what is turning many off from the program. The costume looks like a Halloween costume of a marching band outfit put together by someone's grandmother. Half covering the boots with black tights looks sloppy. It's the opposite of elevating and it's a bit unbelievable that this would be the image they would want to be best known for. The lack of striking image is what may be deflating the program from the beginning.
I'm not sure how a long dress interferes with doing the quads, but a flowing long dress like the one used in the SP could help give the eyes something to focus on during the more empty parts. And just overall, it gives the eyes more to focus on. I find that a long flowing dress to almost act as extra pair of arms interpreting the music. It leads to a fuller appearance and the program gets a bit drier when that's lost. I think an overly literal and theatrical costume should take a backseat to just being beautiful on the ice. If they stick with Bolero, I'd perhaps looks for some inspiration in steampunk or gothic fantasy dresses.
Valieva should own the long flowing dress like Zagitova owned the tutu.
Valieva's LP is not as bad as the long program Evgenia first used and then dumped during the Olympic season. But in it's current form, it's also not as good as Zagitova's LP which had some charm, a strong image, and steadily building energy to it. But LP was lacking in a few obvious ways and the aspiration should be to go way beyond it. Zagitova's LP at the Olympics is the least viewed of 2018 Olympic winners for a good reason IMO... OTOH, she has the most instagram followers.
Valieva should want a program and striking image that will help put her over when both she and Trusova go clean... or keep her medaling over Rika/Alysa/Young if she rotates everything but has a couple of falls. I don't think this is it.
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Great analysis. I agree about the FP costume. I hate it. I didnt like the very first version of it last year, because it was looking too heavy on her (the tights were too thick). But red and brown at least made her look far more soft than this black. As it is draining the life out of her. I hope they opt for something better.
Thanks for the great analysis. I agree with your take on the SP, and I like the long skirt.
Storm is charm (despite the name "storm") and elegant, the music is lighter, and it portrays (to me) a lovely girl playing with her friends, probably in a garden, where they take turns doing solo dances. The new SP is also in a garden where she is chasing a butterfly, but this time she is alone, by herself. She has more thoughts now, and she has matured. Both programs could be used in the Olympic season, and both will shine and be well accepted.
I have mixed feelings about her LP. First of all, we were told by Kamila that she's portraying a snake, so we at least have a reference point when we watch the program. But others are not aware of this, and they probably don't care. So it is not easy to sell the program to a large audience. Of course, as long as they can sell it to the judges, it's ok. For this I think I'll trust the team. Kamil's peformance at the Channel One Cup was good. Hopefully she will skate clean with the added quad. By the way, another good thing we can note: there is an obvious contrast between the two programs, and maybe the team wants this be noted.
Ultimately, Kamila needs to skate the two programs clean, and she is capable of doing that!
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random fs videos posted these 4K videos recently !
I like both programs and if someone can portray a lovely fierce snake it’s Kamila with her incredible flexibility and talent.
kami seems very confortable with the 3A now, she should add another one in the free, I don’t think she has to do it in combination and remove the salchow. It’s risky to keep it but challenging.
kami seems very confortable with the 3A now, she should add another one in the free, I don’t think she has to do it in combination and remove the salchow. It’s risky to keep it but challenging.
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if girl on a ball wasn't already used 2 seasons i'd be behind that 100%.
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That’s really cool, that they hired a ballerina to help Kamila ! I hope she can help her to elevate Bolero and take it to a new level
