2021-2022 US Women's Figure Skating

[beepboop]

Jeremy Abbott talking about Alysa's 3A in post-Nebelhorn article:

“The triple axel has been a big part of the daily training,” said Abbott, who trains Liu alongside primary coach Massimo Scali and Lorenzo Magri. “She is able to land it every day (in practice). Now, we are working to make it as clean and as consistent as her other elements.”

“Heading into Skate Canada, the goal is to add the triple axel into the short program, and to continue polishing and expanding the artistic side of her skating,” Abbott said. “(We want to) add more grade of execution and maximize the points in every aspect of her skating.”

 

[Dogo]

Jeremy Abbott talking about Alysa's 3A in post-Nebelhorn article:

“The triple axel has been a big part of the daily training,” said Abbott, who trains Liu alongside primary coach Massimo Scali and Lorenzo Magri. “She is able to land it every day (in practice). Now, we are working to make it as clean and as consistent as her other elements.”

“Heading into Skate Canada, the goal is to add the triple axel into the short program, and to continue polishing and expanding the artistic side of her skating,” Abbott said. “(We want to) add more grade of execution and maximize the points in every aspect of her skating.”

Jeremy never fails to make my day brighter.

 

[Amei]

Actually, I don't think she looks "rough" at all. The skating, program, and spins are well performed. She is just doing intentional singles and doubles. The height on her jumps is fine. When was this filmed?

Its a little concerning that a month out from Skate America she's intentionally only doing singles and doubles though.

 

[readernick]

Its a little concerning that a month out from Skate America she's intentionally only doing singles and doubles though.

It looks like an exhibition program though, doesn't it? Not like she is actually competing. As you get older, you have to reduce the number of repetitions of jumps you do. So, it could very well be that she just didn't want to do a full run through with jumps for the exhibition, she just wanted to practice her choreo. If she isn't landing triples in practice then, yes, that is concerning.

 

[Amei]

It looks like an exhibition program though, doesn't it? Not like she is actually competing. As you get older, you have to reduce the number of repetitions of jumps you do. So, it could very well be that she just didn't want to do a full run through with jumps for the exhibition, she just wanted to practice her choreo. If she isn't landing triples in practice then, yes, that is concerning.

I'm not sure what the intentions of the performance was, but it didn't exactly look like she's ready to fight for GP medals and the Olympic team.

 

[skatinggold]

It looks like an exhibition program though, doesn't it? Not like she is actually competing. As you get older, you have to reduce the number of repetitions of jumps you do. So, it could very well be that she just didn't want to do a full run through with jumps for the exhibition, she just wanted to practice her choreo. If she isn't landing triples in practice then, yes, that is concerning.

Didn’t Alysa do only singles and doubles when she was injured last year? I would expect Bradie to be doing a full run through before Skate America in a few weeks. It is especially worrying when your next competition is in a few weeks.

 

[readernick]

I'm not sure what the intentions of the performance was, but it didn't exactly look like she's ready to fight for GP medals and the Olympic team.

Only because of the double jumps which were clearly intentional, not because of any other aspect of her skating. Her StepSeq and spins were great Again, if she isn't landing triples in practice that's concerning but one random video certainly isn't telling us the whole story. Many skaters purposely double jumps while working on choreo. We will see how prepared she is at SA, until then it's all just worthless speculation.

 

[macy]

Bradie's music is dreadful. that is 10/10 not going to create a moment for her at nationals or the olympics. it makes me want to take a nap. i'm not going to comment on her current shape as she is struggling with injury...but whoever picked that music needs to be fired.

edit: i also noticed she's not wearing edeas anymore.

 

[readernick]

Bradie's music is dreadful. that is 10/10 not going to create a moment for her at nationals or the olympics. it makes me want to take a nap. i'm not going to comment on her current shape as she is struggling with injury...but whoever picked that music needs to be fired.

I do agree with this. It's a bit sad given the fact that I have really loved her SPs the last couple of years and her LPs while not amazing have been good. This feels like the wrong direction for her, given her particular style of skating.

 

[jenaj]

Alina Zagitova was a minor and took part at the olympics without a parent (her mother arrived only after the competition). Alysa will handle it.

I'm sure there was some other adult who was responsible for 15 year old Alina. The USOC is not going to send a minor to Beijing without a parent or other responsible adult.

 

[AlysaLiuStan]

It looks like an exhibition program though, doesn't it? Not like she is actually competing. As you get older, you have to reduce the number of repetitions of jumps you do. So, it could very well be that she just didn't want to do a full run through with jumps for the exhibition, she just wanted to practice her choreo. If she isn't landing triples in practice then, yes, that is concerning.

She's 22, not 52, and has a major competition in less than 3 weeks.

 

[fzztsimmons]

She's 22, not 52, and has a major competition in less than 3 weeks.

and she’s also an experienced elite athlete who knows what she needs to do to pace herself and recover from injury. if she is in fact injured or coming back from it, why the hell would she push herself to jump triples in some obscure exhibition competition and risk further exacerbating her injury?
i’m sure Bradie and her team are aware of what they need to do to get her in prime condition. and sometimes injuries happen, and not always at ideal time. she might not be ready for the grand prix and if it’s because of injury, that’s sad, but that’s life.

let’s not write bradie off until we’ve actually seen her in proper competition.

 

[MaHa75]

and she’s also an experienced elite athlete who knows what she needs to do to pace herself and recover from injury. if she is in fact injured or coming back from it, why the hell would she push herself to jump triples in some obscure exhibition competition and risk further exacerbating her injury?
i’m sure Bradie and her team are aware of what they need to do to get her in prime condition. and sometimes injuries happen, and not always at ideal time. she might not be ready for the grand prix and if it’s because of injury, that’s sad, but that’s life.

let’s not write bradie off until we’ve actually seen her in proper competition.

Halleluja!
I wanted to add that GP is not the main competition in the season and so what if she miss it...she still can do other comp, nationals and make it to Olympics!

 

[yelyoh]

I won't worry about Bradie until I hear that she is really injured and compromised. Other than than, I have complete confidence that she will not disappoint. I just watched her program and she looks like Bradie. Yes I think the music is a little underwhelming but she pulls it off.

 

[Joubabe]

“And let's be honest on Amber and the "triple axel" - she's only attempted it I think twice in competition, at Nationals last year (once in the SP, none in the FS) and at the Cranberry cup SP- Nationals was downgraded and Cranberry it was under-rotated. I have my doubts that a skater who is an inconsistent competitor would have hit it and everything else enough to medal at Worlds, her highest combined score internationally was at 2020 4ccs with 190.83; Trusova who finished third at 2021 Worlds scored 217.20, so Amber would have needed to improve her best score by about 27 points to surpass Trusova.”

And when was Amber supposed to put out her triple axle? She wasn’t sent to Worlds or World Team Trophy and what else was there between Nationals and Cranberry? And as far as Trusova’s score at Worlds, it wasn’t based on what she put on the ice, it was a gift for attempting but not landing four or five quads. I know that’s irrelevant to Amber’s situation, but it aggravates me that Trusova’s rewarded for what she might do and not what she actually can do!
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[Amei]

And when was Amber supposed to put out her triple axle? She wasn’t sent to Worlds or World Team Trophy and what else was there between Nationals and Cranberry?

My comment regarding Amber's triple axel and her only having attempted it twice was in response to the poster I replied to that seemed to imply with their comment, that it was a given that Amber would have been successful with the triple axel at Worlds; like somehow it wasn't a brand new element for her that she debuted at Nationals last year.

 

[Joekaz]

That's probably why figure skating is a subjective sport. I don't see all the things that you see and I'm trying hard

This is very true. And I would like to add that the subjectivity is on the technical side just as much as the PCS, which many people don't seem to realize. That subjectivity makes skating a good sport for fan blogs, btw. Lol

 

[moonvine]

Yes, lets not question the knowledge and integrity of the JSF. Lol Excuse me, Im getting sick. Ok back to the US ladies. Alyssa Liu is the best American, and the only one with presence and charisma on the ice. Other than lack of maturity, which is expected at her age, and lack of speed and jump height, she is quite good.

Totally disagree with all this.

 

[Paulipau]

Because its about individual skaters, not what nationality you are. I root for the skaters I like best. Im American, but since Michelle retired there hasn't been an American woman that impressed me, except for Mirai when she was younger. The Russians and Japanese have had by far the best women since, with the exception of Kim Yuna. But I like the Japanese women's style more, with the exception of Kostornaia. So Im generally in that area because I like their skaters better. Not because Im from there. Ironically I do like Alysa Liu though. She has improved very quickly.

I actually really loved Gracie, her jumps, spins were exemptional for me.
But pity she wasn't head-strong.

 

[katymay]

Alysa Liu seems to actually love the moment when they call her name. She handles nerves better than any skater I've ever seen in my life, and as a result is dependable and consistent. Her jumps and skating are not as exciting as the top Japanese girls, but her team has done the math, and her tech score is going to end up as high, transitions etc., are better and she is consistent.