Kamila Valieva: Anti-doping Case and Follow-ups
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Kamila and the rest are all on the practice rink now: https://t.me/s/lapidarnst
The drama and fallout that is going to come out of all of this is going to be absolutely epic.
The drama and fallout that is going to come out of all of this is going to be absolutely epic.
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If a suspension is given, then the suspension is normally backdated to the day of the positive test and any results from competition within the suspension period are vacated. So the European title would be vacated.
Those two things are not mutually exclusive. Yes, quads are easier done in the earlier to mid teens, and yes, it's easier for minors to get treated more lightly for doping offenses.
Personally, I preferred the Nancy/Tonya drama to this.
It is very unlikely that whoever gave her the drug didn't realize that such a dose was useless. In my home country (somewhere is Europe) elite athletes are surrounded by the very best doctors the country has, who would never make such a medical mistake. I think the situation is the same in Russia.
Plus if someone gives a useless amount of _cardiac_ drug to someone else (whether realizing it or not), than it would be a murder attempt...
Yes, minors should obviously be protected, but if there is differential because one is a minor, then one should compete in a division for minors aka juniors.
Or, it was a larger dose that was mistimed, so the half life reduction kept it just above testable levels.
I guess in any case IOC would probably appeal, and now it is up to CAS to buy the explanation or not (?)
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ISU is apparently also appealing...
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Who has possession of Sample "B?" If it's RUSADA, I would not trust the result.
I just saw it. Both go to CAS I suppose.
I don't want to be overdramatic but it just does not look good from any point of view. I am afraid I am seeing last agonizaing breaths of figure skating. It was not that popular before (except Russia and Japan) and this story is like a shot in the head. Very bad timing. If the positive test had been revealed anytime before the lady's short program in team event, the disaster could have been avoided. Kamila would have been suspened and just lost her titles and that's it. The team event would not have been compromised. The Olympic Games would not have been copromised . Tremendous loss of marketing appeal, loss of sponsors, loss of reputation, loss of spectators etc. Litereally nobody gained anything from this situation. I heard that some Canadian journalist suggested excluding figure skating from the OG. Why not? P.S I am not even talking about suggestion to ban all Russian athletes/figure skaters from international competitions. It will be very entertaining to watch, especially Europeans, especially pairs. And actually I don't care who wins. I just love beauty of figure skating.
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yup... one more scandal.... how many will the IOC tolerate?
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Well, weightlifting is on about year 15 of 'stop doing that doping stuff so blatantly or we'll tell you to stop doing that again' and only now is seeing its place on the Olympic program in real jeopardy. The IOC is not exactly quick to act on such issues.
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Most women individual OGMs from the last 30 years are minors. But I agree it's problematic that different athletes in the same event are subject to different standards when it comes to doping punishments.
It is utterly disgusting that there is any talk of allowing her to compete here. Whether she is the one responsible or not, she was found to be doping, period. The disrepute her participation would throw the entire competition under would be an incalculable blow to the integrity of the sport as a whole. Heck, even if she's not allowed to compete, the fact that two other athletes under the same coach will likely take the top two places in her absence is always going to be looked at with suspicion — how could it be otherwise?
Sadly, it would not surprise me if the whole thing gets swept under the rug. The Sambo 70 group have so much political power, and we're now talking, apparently, about an internal Russian process. Unfortunately, any further testing that exonerated the athlete in question would also be highly suspicious, given this atmosphere. What a mess.
I have to admit, this has made me seriously question results going back years for skaters from this school.
Sadly, it would not surprise me if the whole thing gets swept under the rug. The Sambo 70 group have so much political power, and we're now talking, apparently, about an internal Russian process. Unfortunately, any further testing that exonerated the athlete in question would also be highly suspicious, given this atmosphere. What a mess.
I have to admit, this has made me seriously question results going back years for skaters from this school.
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12/25/21: Kamila pees in a cup at Russian Nationals for RUSADA, the Russian organization that is supposed to make sure Russian athletes aren't doing drugs.
Kamila's pee is then mailed to a lab in Sweden, presumably because Russia has a history of fooling around with athletes' pee.
02/07/22: Kamila skates in the free program of the 2022 Pandemic Games Team Event. Russ--I mean, the Russian Olympic...Camp? The Russian Olympics something, something...okay whatever, Russia wins gold.
02/08/22: The lab in Sweden finally gets around to testing Kamila's 2-month old pee. Surprise, surprise, it's positive for Chemical X.
RUSADA who, let's remember, are the Russian "anti"-doping organization, suspends Kamila. They're like *gasp* "Bad Kamila! Bad! We are sooo outraged by "your" poor decisions. You must be punished. You are banned."
Kamila is like "lol RUSADA, puh-lease. You're not banning nobody." And so RUSADA (again, a Russian organization) is like "Okay Kamila, you're right, so sorry, you are now officially un-banned. Case closed. We'll just come up with something to tell everyone later. Good talk."
Well now the IOC is slightly concerned. They're like "Hooooold up, RUSADA. What is this tomfoolery? You can't do that! We're the ones in charge of making sure this party becomes the utter disaster it is destined to be."
So now the IOC sends their lawyer, the ITA to take RUSADA and Kamila to the sports Supreme Court (CAS) asap cause you know...t-minus 5 days until the Women's SP...so they can try to undo RUSADA's undo of RUSADA's own ban on Kamila. Their deadline is 2/15 cause that's when Kamila is scheduled to place first in the SP. If they fail, well...lol. Prepare to hold your breath all over again through the free program. But wait! Luckily for Kamila she's underaged (which is probably why the media kept treating her as She-Who-Must-Be-Named) so even if found guilty, there is a chance that she will simply get a slap on the wrist. And the best part is we'll never know what went down in court cause she's little. So people are left to speculate. Fun.
Meanwhile the ISU is over in the corner like "Hello? Look here! Oh. My. Gosh. Was that a quadrippidal axel just now?....Hello? Anyone? Skating? Nathan? Hello??? Are we still relevant? Fine, will you pay attention if we appeal too? You'll all still watch the Grand Prix Series after we ban Russia right? Guys? Right?"
Sorry but I cannot help mentitioning that we are having dance competition next. Ice dancing has been hanging by a thread in the OG family. Let's cross fingers we won't have any dramas or controversises. Another scandal in dance will be the final straw.
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They can leave the accusations meaningless to team of coaches, it is only known that a test of December 25, 2021 was positive for a prohibited medicine. You still have no confirmation of whether it is a false positive.
Do not convert this forum into the drain that is another site, where calling drug addicts to Valieva, Trusova, Shcherbakva, Kostornaia, Akatieva, etc; and calling macrocomerializer of amphetamine to the entire Team Tutberidze. Keep the seriousness of the theme.
Do not convert this forum into the drain that is another site, where calling drug addicts to Valieva, Trusova, Shcherbakva, Kostornaia, Akatieva, etc; and calling macrocomerializer of amphetamine to the entire Team Tutberidze. Keep the seriousness of the theme.
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