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But, the Russian team is fine with winning through doping?
That's an interesting moral viewpoint.
Kamila Valieva: Anti-doping Case and Follow-ups
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That's an interesting moral viewpoint.
They didn't win through doping...there was one positive test...perspective
no drug is going to make you work your butt off and achieve that level of skill
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A positive test that hints at a system of doping widespread thoughout the most successful figure skating school in the country. But, sure that's less embarrassing than the US having one rather weak discipline. ( women). Again, such an interesting moral code.
All figure skaters at a top level work their butts off. Most do it without the benefit of drugs to aid performance. This isn't restricted to Russia.
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Actually, this is exactly what drugs do : they help athletes work their butt off while others are simply dead. This is exactly what these kinds of drug, that have effects on the cardio-vascular system do. I am NOT implying anything about the skaters who do have or do not have quads. But let's not put our heads in the sand here. TMZ helps with recovery from training. If it allows anyone to train even just 20 -30 more minutes every day on those hard jumps and stamina while skating their run throughs, it is an incredible advantage. This is exactly why these drugs are banned.
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Shabotova didn't just say every Russian athlete is doping--she specifically referred to the Eteri girls at Sambo 70 needing to dope to get that good. And it's not partly why she's skating for UKR now, it's the reason. Sad how her Russian career was destroyed for speaking the truth (verified and undeniable at this point) about the Eteri school. Shame on RusFed.
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The only thing I can think of is they're hoping for a big scene. Like crying, screaming, accusations from the Russian girls towards their coaches. Like some soap opera, but this is real life with real people who have feelings and are under horrible pressure.
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Maybe : but two things.
1) Journalists were always going to be following these 3 incredible young athletes, scandal or not. They are the 3 stars with jumps nobody has ever done before at the games.
2) It's their job to get the stories the people want to read/hear about. This thread for instance, with its 60 something and ongoing pages, shows exactly that.
What could be done is an intervention by the IOC, the ISU and all skating federations to remove journalists from the practice sessions for a few days to give some space to the athletes, and I am talking about ALL athletes.
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Hard agree there! It's one thing as a journalist to show up to practice in order to report what skaters are doing, like Jackie Wong on Twitter. It's another to go there rubbing your hands together in the hope of a juicy scene.
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yes, 5 % of useful info, 95 % of waste, just like in the newspapers, because people like it that way
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Selective reading is necessary nowadays, not just in this thread but all over the media, social or traditional. I have no problem skipping over the posts that are not informative.yes, 5 % of useful info, 95 % of waste, just like in the newspapers, because people like it that way
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Jackie doesn't need to do much to get his juicy scene. He just needs to post 4t (UR Fall) and twitter goes nuts. Other journalists have to be more creative. Look : as I have said, I would prefer that the IOC keeps the journalists away from all the figure skaters, not just women, not just ROC athletes... All of them. They could even organize a zone for athletes who WISH to speak to the media but not give access... Do not blame the ones who do their jobs, but blame the ones who don't do theirs ... that's my perspective.
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It's journalists job to get the truth of a situation. The ISU and IOC might be willing to sweep this under the rug. RUSADA certainly wants it to be. In order to get at the truth, journalists have to ask questions. The only thing I disagree with is them asking Kamila. All of the uncomfortable questions should be directed towards her team and RUSADA.
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I agree with that too... If my first thought was to protect the athletes (all of them) the real protection for all has to come from shedding light on this situation.
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