Yes, there is a literal wealth of information about how under funded WADA is and how they unable to keep up with all the tactics used to evade detection.
ISU bans Russia and Belarus from competitions
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I don’t understand the critique of ISU coming from the other side. As in people saying too late or they surprised etc. ISU did the right thing, there should be support for that, particularly if you agree with the decision. That really confused me when people turned around and kicked ISU after they announced it
Believing that everything and everyone is evil, and can do no right is no way to live, imo. I dunno. Everything just sucks right now thanks to Putin.
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Me too. Sports should be sports, not politics. The skaters did nothing wrong. I am done with the ISU and IOC. I will not watch worlds 2022 and if necessary, any future figure skating events until the wrong is righted.
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I don't agree with the ISU decision. I condemn Putin. It doesn't mean I condemn every Russian. Imagine when the USA attacked Iraq, should they have banned all athletes from the USA? If the answer is no, this is hypocritical.I don’t understand the critique of ISU coming from the other side. As in people saying too late or they surprised etc. ISU did the right thing, there should be support for that, particularly if you agree with the decision. That really confused me when people turned around and kicked ISU after they announced it
I dunno. Everything just sucks right now thanks to Putin.
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And yet, the labs caught traces for Callang, Barquero and Valieva. If the absence of a hit is a proof of wrongdoing, there is absolutely no way to tell anything. But if your point is along the lines of ‘thanks goodness Putin is killing Ukrainians, we can now ban all Russians because they are all dirty’, that’s a warped logic.
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One needs actual proof or its just blowing smoke.
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The ISU made the right decision (for once), political or not. Figure skating is insignificant in the grander scheme of things, but every bit of deterrence counts when it comes to encouraging the end to this mad war. When sports, businesses, communities, and families across the world—across Russia—recognize that this is not the will of the people, but of one pathetic, evil man, they will call for change. I hope that such change will come, and I have faith in this. I feel sad for the Russian skaters of course, and civilians in general who are innocent in all this. As a long time fan, I very much hope to see the Russian skaters return to the world stage in the future, when there is peace. But who knows when that will be? For the time being, it is a great loss for the sport, but an understandable one. This is a tragedy and great loss on all sides, but right now it is the Ukrainian people who are suffering the most. Anything that can be done, must be done to prevent further loss of life. Whether it's actions being taken by the organizations like the ISU, or the IOC—by governments or by individuals, all of it is important, and necessary. This is a critical moment for the world, and thus far, it has been quite suprising and encouraging to see how the international community has come together to meet it. Let us hope that a resolution can be reached soon, and without further, unnecessary bloodshed.
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I just saw this on my page today. I guess this is old news but, it must be awful for all the clean athletes who were looking forward to this event. I think it would have given the clean athletes a chance to make a new impression on the skating fans. I was looking forward to seeing the other Russian Ladies and now they're all going down with the ship. What a heartbreak this must be for them. However, there are bigger things than figure skating and I think I'd have a hard time focusing on skating if my country was at war.
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I only condemn Putin and his cohorts among the Russians. Everyone who wears a green or white ribbon is my hero.
After IOC statement, ISU had no other recourse, so it did the right thing—the only thing they could do. Again, this announcement should have come with temp relaxation of rules for transfers and the clarification on 2023 spots. Russian athletes will pay the price for Putin’s madness, along with the rest of the Russians, and by the time they are done paying, not having a team at Worlds will feel as much of a trifle as worrying about who smoked weed in Krasnoyarsk feels now in comparison to the war. For some of the fans, this worlds will suck. For the rest it would be the best worlds ever. And so life goes on.
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I don't have a ton to add to the discourse, except to say that the idea that figure skating (and most other sports) is apolitical is absolute nonsense. If you really believe that politics should stay out of sport, than you clearly think that athletes shouldn't represent a nation at all. No flags, no country names, no anthems, none of that. Two weeks ago Sui & Han won a gold medal for China, not just for themselves. Sports have always been political.
For the record, there is a valid argument that could be made that the World Championships would be much fairer if it was based on results and not country quotas, however, politics have always driven scores, judging, and media representation, and that would also have to be completely changed in order to make the situation fair. Which obviously will never happen.
For the record, there is a valid argument that could be made that the World Championships would be much fairer if it was based on results and not country quotas, however, politics have always driven scores, judging, and media representation, and that would also have to be completely changed in order to make the situation fair. Which obviously will never happen.
You have drastically inferred information in my posts that just isn’t there.
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You called all Russian medals tainted and celebrated the Russian athletes’ absence, due to the state-sponsored doping you firmly believe in, when ISU decision is an anti-war statement. What didn’t I understand correctly?
This news of an ISU ban on Russian athletes seems appropriate to me. (Note the use of appropriate over fair.) Sport success is very important to Putin and the Russian government as evidenced by the state paying coaching fees/stipends to top athletes and the state-sponsored doping scandal. THis seems like a sanction against the Russian government.
It is true that individual Russian athletes are being caught and that is not "fair" strictly speaking. But it does seem the best call for the ISU.
It is true that individual Russian athletes are being caught and that is not "fair" strictly speaking. But it does seem the best call for the ISU.
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Historically, calling for change and popular uprisings netted Russians the worse lot. In 1991 they were still willing to being ridden over by the tanks in Moscow, but given that it was first an addled alcoholic who came to power, and then Putin, just based on the outcomes of calls for change in recent times… and before that, it was Stalin who used the 1917s Revolution against the despotic czars, now upgraded into saints… there’s a Russian saying, ‘hoped for the best, turned out as usual.’
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When your best defense is "Waaah, everyone else has done bad things, waaah".
That's no defense at all.
Russia has invaded another country and the ISU has banned Russia from World as a result. The only relevant information for this decision.
And the correct decision, in light of these events,
That's no defense at all.
Russia has invaded another country and the ISU has banned Russia from World as a result. The only relevant information for this decision.
And the correct decision, in light of these events,
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And this is where the water gets murky. As I've said before, when I was 14, my parents made every decision about when I'd go to a doctor and who that doctor would be. When I was a young performer, we were often given shots that were recommended by the tour company. We were told we needed them to go to Mexico. I'm sure my parents didn't think twice, and I was so excited to go on tour, I got the shot with a smile. I realize it's the skaters that are the people we see but, it's the people "Behind The Curtain" that need to be brought to the forefront. I also feel for athletes but, I agree that this is best solution for this immediate problem.
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this is not about doping @mrrice it's about war
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I’m sorry for the athletes but Worlds will be awesome. Anything could happen!This comes as no surprise.
But I'm heartbroken for the athletes.
I'm out as well from watching Worlds.
So sad!
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I know. I was responding to a different post. As far as holding the event during a time of war.....I know I wouldn't be able to concentrate on skating if I had family or friends in the thick of this war.
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