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2023 Lake Placid Ice Dance International | Jul 31 - Aug 2

^^ Yeah @Jumping Bean, since I saw the schedule had separate events for Senior Combined RD and FD, vs Senior International RD and FD, I suspected that Flo/Des might be listed for the domestic event. Still, those entries aren't up, and there's no explanation provided of when the entry list will be posted. They threw up the international list of names with no designation between juniors and seniors. I have an understanding of who is and is not senior, but why the unorganized lists? Plus, no dates are on the event schedule, that I could see.
Entry lists for NQS are (almost) always released when the scoring page is activated, so usually at the end of the day before the competition (so the entries will hopefully be known within the next hours). (Though apparently Wolfkostin/Tsarevksii are also entered in the domestic event, so that's going to be really interesting 👀)

The issue with the missing headings (for the entry list and the schedule) is an issue of display not of them not existing. I can't see them on my phone, or when I have a split screen and a zoom size of 90% or over on my PC, maybe that's the issue for you too?
 
Wolfkostin/Tsarevksii are also entered in the domestic event, so that's going to be really interesting 👀)
Not anymore interesting than it already was at Dallas Classic. LOL! Except that we didn't actually get to see the competition, which is always more instructive than simply viewing photos and protocols. Reviewers who were there said that W/T skated fairly clean, but not perfect since they are a new team and this is still the summer, so programs are rusty. It's obvious that F/D lost points on twizzles in the RD, plus some judges had issues with choreo and music violations, yet it's not clear what that entailed re F/D's programs. Judging from training clips, F/D have wonderful programs, so hopefully summer comps will only strengthen and refine both.

It's just as well that Bratti/ Somerville skipped the Dallas competition, unless one or both are injured. B/S have been more established domestically as a senior team than the rest of the Dallas field. Honestly, I would find it more interesting when/ if Kat DelCamp Akalin & Berk Akalin ever run into Bratti/ Somerville competitively.

As far as the weird Dima & Bella split, she surely went through a lot suddenly, and she surely grieved. But she ultimately had the strength to move on, and to wish Dima well on Instagram, without (at least initially) hearing from him. Not everyone could recover from such disappointment and then be willing and courageous enough to salvage their career in skating. We don't and won't know exactly what happened to Dima. But apparently, he still loves skating, so it's nice to see him back. What happened to Bella apparently strengthened her growth and maturity. The bonus is that she was able to find another partner whom she may have an even better match with physically and emotionally (matching lines and mutual goals).

All the skaters know and respect each other, having grown up competing together (albeit Vanya did not know any of them as well since he grew up in Russia). Bella & Dima first flirted with skating together when they were 14, but they did not end up partnering until they were 17. Very early on, Dima skated with Leah Neset (in novice?) before she was partnered with Artem Markelov. Meanwhile, Bella was once partnered, in novice ice dance, with Mikhail Gumbah (later Johnson) who switched to pairs with Winter Deardorff, before he ultimately left figure skating to study medicine.
 
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Entry lists for NQS are (almost) always released when the scoring page is activated, so usually at the end of the day before the competition (so the entries will hopefully be known within the next hours). (Though apparently Wolfkostin/Tsarevksii are also entered in the domestic event, so that's going to be really interesting 👀)
Result page for domestic competition is now online
 
Junior International Entries:

Catharina GUEDES TIBAU/Cayden DAWSONBRA
Charlotte CHUNG/Axel MacKENZIECAN
Emma GOODSTADT/Christian BENNETTCAN
Sophia GOVER/Billy WILSON-FRENCHCAN
Alisa KORNEVA/Kieran MacDONALDCAN
Harlow STANLEY/Nikita SOSNENKOMEX
Kristina BLAND/Matthew SPERRYUSA
Helena CARHART/Volodymyr HOROVYIUSA
Anya LAVROVA/Jonathan ROGERSUSA
Caroline MULLEN/Brendan MULLENUSA
Leah NESET/Artem MARKELOVUSA
Elliana PEAL/Ethan PEALUSA
Interested to see how Billy Wilson-French and his new partner Sophia Gover get on - he's a super talented skater (from near my home town in the UK.
 
Start order for Junior NQS Rhythm Dance


  • Start time: Aug 01, 2:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time
  • Venue: 1980 Rink
  • Judge detail scores
StartName
1Isabella Hagan, All Year FSC
Shawn Hagan, All Year FSC
2Amy Cui, SC of Boston
Kenny Eckert, IceWorks SC
3Sophia Bushell, National Ice Skating Association of UK Ltd
Anthony Steven Haddad, National Ice Skating Association of UK Ltd
4Michela Melillo, Connecticut Skating Academy
Simon Mintz, Hayden Recreation Centre FSC
5Emily Renzi, SC of New York
William Lissauer, All Year FSC
6Annelise Stapert, ION FSC
Maxim Korotcov, ION FSC
7Olivia Ilin, Washington FSC
Dylan Cain, Washington FSC
8Jane Calhoun, Broadmoor SC
Daniil Veselukhin, Broadmoor SC
9Yahli Pedersen, Ann Arbor FSC
Jeffrey Chen, Peninsula SC
10Zoe Cialella, Arctic FSC
David Goldshteyn, SC of Novi
11Julia Epps, IceWorks SC
Blake Gilman, Peninsula SC
 
Start order for Junior NQS Rhythm Dance

  • Start time: Aug 01, 6:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time
  • Venue: 1980 Rink
  • Judge detail scores
StartName
1Raffaella Koncius, Los Angeles FSC
Alexey Shchepetov, FSC of Southern California
2Isabella Flores, Thunderbirds FSC
Ivan Desyatov, Thunderbirds FSC
3Cara Murphy, Arctic FSC
Joshua Levitt, Pittsburgh FSC
4Klara Kowar, Aspen SC
Thomas Schwappach, Denver Colorado FSC
5Katarina Wolfkostin, Peninsula SC
Dimitry Tsarevski, Peninsula SC
 


StN.​
Name​
Nation​
Warm-Up Group 1
1Helena CARHART / Volodymyr HOROVYI
USA.GIF
USA
2Charlotte CHUNG / Axel MACKENZIE
CAN.GIF
CAN
3Anya LAVROVA / Jonathan ROGERS
USA.GIF
USA
Warm-Up Group 2
4Caroline MULLEN / Brendan MULLEN
USA.GIF
USA
5Kristina BLAND / Matthew SPERRY
USA.GIF
USA
6Emma GOODSTADT / Christian BENNETT
CAN.GIF
CAN
7Sophia GOVER / Billy WILSON-FRENCH
CAN.GIF
CAN
Warm-Up Group 3
8Elliana PEAL / Ethan PEAL
USA.GIF
USA
9Harlow STANLEY / Nikita SOSNENKO
MEX.GIF
MEX
10Leah NESET / Artem MARKELOV
USA.GIF
USA
11Catharina GUEDES TIBAU / Cayden DAWSON
BRA.GIF
BRA
 
International Senior Rhythm Dance Start Order

StN.
Name
Nation
Warm-Up Group 1
1Lily HENSEN / Nathan LICKERS
CAN.GIF
CAN
2Diana DAVIS / Gleb SMOLKIN
GEO.GIF
GEO
3Adrienne CARHART / Oleksandr KOLOSOVSKYI
AZE.GIF
AZE
4Livvy SHILLING / Leo BAETEN
BEL.GIF
BEL
Warm-Up Group 2
5Mariia NOSOVITSKAYA / Michael NOSOVITSKY
ISR.GIF
ISR
6Leia DOZZI / Pietro PAPETTI
ITA.GIF
ITA
7Alyssa ROBINSON / Jacob PORTZ
CAN.GIF
CAN
8Oona BROWN / Gage BROWN
USA.GIF
USA
Warm-Up Group 3
9Sandrine GAUTHIER / Quentin THIEREN
CAN.GIF
CAN
10Lorraine McNAMARA / Anton SPIRIDONOV
USA.GIF
USA
11Nadiia BASHYNSKA / Peter BEAUMONT
CAN.GIF
CAN
12Zoe LARSON / Andrii KAPRAN
UKR.GIF
UKR
13Elizabeth TKACHENKO / Alexei KILIAKOV
ISR.GIF
ISR
Warm-Up Group 4
14Emilea ZINGAS / Vadym KOLESNIK
USA.GIF
USA
15Samantha RITTER / Daniel BRYKALOV
AZE.GIF
AZE
16Angela LING / Caleb WEIN
USA.GIF
USA
17Eva PATE / Logan BYE
USA.GIF
USA
18Molly LANAGHAN / Dmitre RAZGULAJEVS
CAN.GIF
CAN
 
The officials

Junior

Technical controller: Michela Cesaro (Italy)
Technical specialists: Galit Chait (Israel) and Marisa Gravino (Canada * partnered with Patrice Lauzon when they were Junior in early 90s)

Referee: Kathleen Cutone (USA)
Judge 1: Chihee Rhee (South Korea)
Judge 2: Mary-Elizabeth Wightman (USA) * International debut
Judge 3: Patty Klein (Canada)
Judge 4: Richard Dalley (USA)
Judge 5: Ulla Faig (Germany)
Judge 6: Tanay Ozkan Silaoglu (Turkey)


Senior
Technical controller: Janice Engel (USA)
Technical specialists: Kristen Fraser Lukanin (Azerbaijan) and Alper Ucar (Turkey)

Referee: Karen Butcher (Canada) * President of Canadian Skating Federation
Judge 1: Jacqueline Wickett-Warren (Canada)
Judge 2: Michela Cesaro (Italy)
Judge 3: Jennifer Mast (USA)
Judge 4: Tanay Ozkan Silaoglu (Turkey)
Judge 5: Ulla Faig (Germany)
Judge 6: Chihee Rhee (South Korea)
 
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It’s so frustrating, isn’t it? The entries for the Cranberry Cup—taking place the week after this comp, and in nearby Norwood MA—are up already, but we still have no idea who’s coming to Lake Placid (other than the Browns)
Cranberry Cup is the only one of these things that has any semblance of organization anywhere. I must say SCOB knows how to put on a competition.
 
Alisa KORNEVA/Kieran MacDONALD - Anyone know what happened to this team? They were showing as an entry, but not on the start order.
 
And Jeffrey and his new partner Yalhi are in first after the JR rhythm dance!! Waiting for protocols
Seems that they were scored very similarly to how they were scored at Dallas Classic, they just avoided the extended lift deduction and Yahli didn't have any issues with the twizzles today (which gained them basically three points off the bat).

A strong statement to be sent to JGPs if they keep this up in the Free.
 
Low 6s in PCS and okay-ish tech. Much room for improvement but fine for early August for a new jr. pair.
Low 6s are generally fine for junior ice dancers when top teams are getting in the mid to high 7s, with the occasional low 8s being thrown in.

Neset/Markelov were getting PCs in the low-ish 7s at their peak last season internationally, Hauer/Starr high-ish 6s and Carhart/Horovyi low to mid 6s. Sure, international scoring is often not very comparable to domestic scoring, but just as a bit of a guideline, N/M were given low to mid 7s at Dallas Classic, where Pedersen/Chen were scored quite similarly to how they were scored here.

TES does indeed have some room for improvement, particularly on the lift and the patterns, but patterns are an issue for a lot of ice dancers.
 
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