Because cheating must have serious consequences and you can't allow perpetrators to profit from their dishonesty, i.e. retain coaching jobs or participate in shows based on tainted performance. It's the same as letting conmen to invest their ill-gotten fortunes.
I think the context of your posts is very clear.
Ok dont let her skate in shows, i dont care. let her skate for herself. thats the opposite of profit she literally has to pay money to be part of the academy and she cant even make money off it through competition or doing shows. perfect. zero profit off of her dishonesty.
yes the context is that in my whole time on this forum i have been the only one who is actually unbias about her. you would take every chance to hate on her and skating91 would worship her like a god. everyone else would fall somewhere on either end. I would always be the middle ground. every time. she isnt even one of my top 3 skaters. I think me and icewhite are the only objective people here. seems everyone else has already ran away because they have no counterpoint.. just you and me now. im 1 versus X in 2 different threads but truth always wins.
She can skate for her own pleasure all she wants.
She cant, actually, because she is banned from the location where she spent her entire life, which has nothing to do with her actively competing or making any sort of profit off of any sort of rule breaking. unfortunately just like hafthor bjornsson cant effective train in a crossfit gym, neither than valieva do anything at a public skate session. there are zero mental gymnastics anyone can perform to justify that factor in the punishment.
Not Valieva; the dishonesty and the abuse of Russian athletes her case represents. My sympathies always lie with every clean Russian athlete. I rely on the resolution of this scandal to clear the way back into honest competition...if RusFed finds a semblance of integrity.
Some Valieva fans. How is it a strawman argument when those sorts of reactions from SOME (not all) of those fans is clear to read on this forum. All you've shown is more point scoring behaviour.
You know what Aliev said? Give us a lake, we'll skate on a lake. She wants to skate? She is welcome to skate.
IIRC he quietly accepted a 2 years suspension.
Ok, then those Valieva fans (who I havent seen in this thread) are wrong. I would like one person to address my point then. If you dont disagree with my point then we have no quarrel.
You did not address my point at all. What does abuse of Russian athletes have to do with the way the official ISU punishment system is structured to any doping case? That is the quarrel which I have referenced explicitly since the beginning of the thread.
Cool, there is still no moral counter argument for the structure of the ISU punishment system. I dont care what Aliev said, he isnt God and he isnt a standalone argument.
Something can be hilarious due to its absurdity while still being extremely serious. Many people laugh when they learn a family member has passed from sheer shock and inability to comprehend the situation. This fact has nothing to do with my actual point. This is an ad-hom and poisoning the well.
All the tests of the medalist after European and Olympics (because it is mandatory to test the medalists after the competition) were negative... So, what you and some people here are suggesting is just nonsense = Simply, they had send Kamila and the others because they knew for sure their results from Europeans were negative
Now, if you want for Canada to medal, i understand that, even i really dont think by watching that team competition Canada deserved any medal, as Japan was not that deserving a silver, and USA was not deserving a gold... Theyve just not performed that well as a team whatever medal (or no medal) they get at the end...if the rules are the same for everyone, then why didn’t Mackenzie Headley receive any punishment from WADA for a completely similar violation? How long can you ignore this simple question? And she did not receive any punishment two times in a row. Are these rules really work for everyone? Or are there special rules in sports for US citizens? Well, tell me about it directly. And at the same time, show who was punished for the numerous violations committed by WADA in this case. Who was punished? Oh, well, no one. Impunity and permissiveness of WADA are what are now called “rules for everyone.”
Don't you believe it mate, and I speak as a fan of the man who has 19 of them including the 100, 200 and 300 historic ones (TPTB go to and fro on the 'do/don't call them WRs' but they are the ones who set the official historic records in 2018 so consistent they ain't.) I wouldn't be surprised if Chen's or Medvedeva's fans can rattle off theirs too. On the other hand, scores can be surpassed and replaced (except the historic ones) and yes, it will take time but Valieva's will go one day, they all do.
Errr.... it is possible to remember both, y'know.
Again... don't you believe it, mate and if you do, I would ask you to imagine Trusova's unvarnished reaction yesterday when she heard (given her meltdown then that she didn't get a gold, now she knows she should have been in the team and they would have kept it). Also, Rusfed etc and the girl herself have been fighting like crazy to keep that one.
... which is not helping your argument???
