Freestyle or Debuts for beginner teen?

[h4artzf0rh0ll1e]

Im female, just turned 14, 47kg, 5'2. Ive been skating since january 30th this year and have progressed to bis silver in free skating. I have egyptian feet and arent sure on the width but outside of skating i usually wear a wide foot although thats pretty vague.
Ive been told im a fast progressor and have currently got my waltz, salchow, toeloop (all on both feet), scratch 9+ revs, spiral, teapot, etc. Im working on improving my height on salchow and toeloop and holding my sit spin and outside of lessons am working on my camel spin. Im gonna start my half loop and other jumps soon.

Im currently in jackson mystiques which i got fitted for and have been in since around may. They fit me nicely so i think id probably stay in jacksons but am gonna try edeas and other brands just incase.
i realised im due an upgrade in my skates maybe two months ago but the other day i noticed a huge ankle crease in them and im already aware the support is gone. these are unsafe to jump in so im upgrading asap.

Im around the elle, freestyle and debut level and from what ive seen elles wont last me, freestyle might not last me (??) and debuts with mk pro or jw coronation ace blades are too expensive. i know i cant cheap out on skates however id rather the lowest price thatll last me longest for my mums sake.
If i did get debuts whats the difference in the blades and would i be better off in the lite versions?

as for edeas, i was originally looking at motivo and overture but have learnt a lot in these two months and have realised my fast progress wont ket these last. my higher level friend recommended me chorus as although theyre slightly overbooting, theyll last me hopefully most my singles for my age, weight and speed of progression. im not betting on edeas working for me tho.

i havent properly looked into other brands such as riedell, risport, graf yet but im welcome to whatever fits my needs best.

if i did end up in a boot without blade, are there any cheaper options that dont sacrifice the benefits. i think as i prefer spinning to jumping i want a 7ft rocker and maybe (not too fussed) a straight cut toepick.
also how long do blades last and should i overblade so it lasts longer

any help is appreciated

 

[Ic3Rabbit]

Im female, just turned 14, 47kg, 5'2. Ive been skating since january 30th this year and have progressed to bis silver in free skating. I have egyptian feet and arent sure on the width but outside of skating i usually wear a wide foot although thats pretty vague.
Ive been told im a fast progressor and have currently got my waltz, salchow, toeloop (all on both feet), scratch 9+ revs, spiral, teapot, etc. Im working on improving my height on salchow and toeloop and holding my sit spin and outside of lessons am working on my camel spin. Im gonna start my half loop and other jumps soon.

Im currently in jackson mystiques which i got fitted for and have been in since around may. They fit me nicely so i think id probably stay in jacksons but am gonna try edeas and other brands just incase.
i realised im due an upgrade in my skates maybe two months ago but the other day i noticed a huge ankle crease in them and im already aware the support is gone. these are unsafe to jump in so im upgrading asap.

Im around the elle, freestyle and debut level and from what ive seen elles wont last me, freestyle might not last me (??) and debuts with mk pro or jw coronation ace blades are too expensive. i know i cant cheap out on skates however id rather the lowest price thatll last me longest for my mums sake.
If i did get debuts whats the difference in the blades and would i be better off in the lite versions?

as for edeas, i was originally looking at motivo and overture but have learnt a lot in these two months and have realised my fast progress wont ket these last. my higher level friend recommended me chorus as although theyre slightly overbooting, theyll last me hopefully most my singles for my age, weight and speed of progression. im not betting on edeas working for me tho.

i havent properly looked into other brands such as riedell, risport, graf yet but im welcome to whatever fits my needs best.

if i did end up in a boot without blade, are there any cheaper options that dont sacrifice the benefits. i think as i prefer spinning to jumping i want a 7ft rocker and maybe (not too fussed) a straight cut toepick.
also how long do blades last and should i overblade so it lasts longer

any help is appreciated

HI and welcome! Definitely don't jump in those boots. You're going to be best in a Jackson, Risport or Graf. With your foot, no edeas.
You cannot cheap out on your boots that you need for their stiffness for your skills and height/weight etc. It will cost your mum more in the long run if you get cheaper and less stiff boots that you need and then you have to keep buying boots more often b/c they break down and also if you get injured. So get the proper thing the first time and they should last you awhile.

Boots by brand that would be best for you...

Risport: You could go with the Electra, but I'm going to tell you that once you get through singles and onto doubles and/or grow taller/put on a bit of weight as you naturally grow as a teen (whichever comes first), you would need a stiffer boot. I'd love to tell you that you should just go with RF3 Pro if you choose Risport b/c then it would last you awhile but they are like 200 dollars more than the Electra.

Graf: F4000

Jackson: Debut or Premier. You could also do the Synergy Elite

Blades: The only blades I would suggest to you at this stage are MK Pro or John Wilson Coronation Ace. The standard one. You do NOT need rev or lite versions of blades ever. Both of the blades are proper intermediate blades which are appropriate for your level and for some time to come; they are 7ft rocker and have cross-cut blades. Straight cut blades are NOT what you need right now hence why they aren't on the intermediate blades.

I wish you luck!

 

[h4artzf0rh0ll1e]

HI and welcome! Definitely don't jump in those boots. You're going to be best in a Jackson, Risport or Graf. With your foot, no edeas.
You cannot cheap out on your boots that you need for their stiffness for your skills and height/weight etc. It will cost your mum more in the long run if you get cheaper and less stiff boots that you need and then you have to keep buying boots more often b/c they break down and also if you get injured. So get the proper thing the first time and they should last you awhile.

Boots by brand that would be best for you...

Risport: You could go with the Electra, but I'm going to tell you that once you get through singles and onto doubles and/or grow taller/put on a bit of weight as you naturally grow as a teen (whichever comes first), you would need a stiffer boot. I'd love to tell you that you should just go with RF3 Pro if you choose Risport b/c then it would last you awhile but they are like 200 dollars more than the Electra.

Graf: F4000

Jackson: Debut or Premier. You could also do the Synergy Elite

Blades: The only blades I would suggest to you at this stage are MK Pro or John Wilson Coronation Ace. The standard one. You do NOT need rev or lite versions of blades ever. Both of the blades are proper intermediate blades which are appropriate for your level and for some time to come; they are 7ft rocker and have cross-cut blades. Straight cut blades are NOT what you need right now hence why they aren't on the intermediate blades.

I wish you luck!

Thanks for replying! just a few questions if you dont mind

are premiers and synergy not overbooting a bit more than i want to? coz i feel like freestyle and debut hit the spot where theyll last me a while coz theyre slighty (more so debuts than freestyle) overbooting - obviously while taking my height weight etc into account and not just skill level.

also what are the differences between mk pro and jw ca coz theyre the same skill level, rocker, toepick and price (at my skateshop atleast). and other than weight are there any differences between original, lite and revolution coz (and this is gonna sound silly) but i love the look of the lites and for the extra £10 i wouldnt mind them as long as its not under or above what i need.

slightly irrelevant as well but while youre here how long would these skates last (obvs varying on which i get but ish?) and blades as well coz im not sure if ill need to upgrade them before they wear or before i upgrade my boots as well.

thanks for helping

 

[Ic3Rabbit]

Thanks for replying! just a few questions if you dont mind

are premiers and synergy not overbooting a bit more than i want to? coz i feel like freestyle and debut hit the spot where theyll last me a while coz theyre slighty (more so debuts than freestyle) overbooting - obviously while taking my height weight etc into account and not just skill level.

also what are the differences between mk pro and jw ca coz theyre the same skill level, rocker, toepick and price (at my skateshop atleast). and other than weight are there any differences between original, lite and revolution coz (and this is gonna sound silly) but i love the look of the lites and for the extra £10 i wouldnt mind them as long as its not under or above what i need.

slightly irrelevant as well but while youre here how long would these skates last (obvs varying on which i get but ish?) and blades as well coz im not sure if ill need to upgrade them before they wear or before i upgrade my boots as well.

thanks for helping

No, I would not overboot you. Not alot of difference between pro and coro ace. And no, at your level you DO NOT NEED the revs or lite version of the blades no matter how "cool" they look, they will hinder your skating more than help it.

 

[h4artzf0rh0ll1e]

No, I would not overboot you. Not alot of difference between pro and coro ace. And no, at your level you DO NOT NEED the revs or lite version of the blades no matter how "cool" they look, they will hinder your skating more than help it.

thanks, so are the revs and lites more advanced coz i was under the impression they were the same but lighter - atleast for the lites, not sure abt revs

 

[Ic3Rabbit]

thanks, so are the revs and lites more advanced coz i was under the impression they were the same but lighter - atleast for the lites, not sure abt revs

They are way above your level which is what I have been trying to tell you for multiple posts now. If you aren't an elite skater going to worlds, Olympics etc, you DON'T need them.

 

[h4artzf0rh0ll1e]

They are way above your level which is what I have been trying to tell you for multiple posts now. If you aren't an elite skater going to worlds, Olympics etc, you DON'T need them.

sorry, you didnt explicitly say they were more advanced just that i didnt need them so i wanted to clear up the reasoning. especially as the mk and jw websites say the lites and normal are both up to double lutz

 

[Ic3Rabbit]

sorry, you didnt explicitly say they were more advanced just that i didnt need them so i wanted to clear up the reasoning. especially as the mk and jw websites say the lites and normal are both up to double lutz

Actually, go re-read my posts where I said in both that it's way above your level and the other time I said you don't need them at your level. (I say this with pure concern)--IDK if you misunderstood? The site is going to say what it does to sell them, that's the companies advertisement departments job. I'm telling you as a pro that they are not needed right now for you. If you want to get them b/c they look cool, and then realize after the fact that they aren't meant for you and hinder your skating more than helping it (as it has with many that have posted here asking why), then that's on you. Not really my issue at that point, I'm here to help and offer my experience and advice and gave it.

 

[h4artzf0rh0ll1e]

Actually, go re-read my posts where I said in both that it's way above your level and the other time I said you don't need them at your level. (I say this with pure concern)--IDK if you misunderstood? The site is going to say what it does to sell them, that's the companies advertisement departments job. I'm telling you as a pro that they are not needed right now for you. If you want to get them b/c they look cool, and then realize after the fact that they aren't meant for you and hinder your skating more than helping it (as it has with many that have posted here asking why), then that's on you. Not really my issue at that point, I'm here to help and offer my experience and advice and gave it.

i did say id only take the appearance into account if they were the same bud