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Maia And Alex Shibutani announce return to competitive skating

I wouldnt believe everything you see on the web. Social media has pushed a number of people to take their own lives. If there are provable quotes, that is one thing. But in any case, people have the right to not like other people.
I certainly don't believe everything I read on the web and I'm, unfortunately, well aware of the kind of damage the Internet can do - live it every day with my struggling Kidult. I didn't mean To suggest I was trying to spread rumors. It just seemed like there was a well- known controversy I hadn't heard of and I was curious about context.
 
^^No Olympic Spots are being stolen. There is a little thing called judging which will determine the Olympic spots. Anyone that follows Ice Dance knows that an Olympic spot for the Shibs is a long shot.

Yes it does feel like a long shot for them to even make the US team never mind be contenders for a medal if they do. They may have made a comeback sooner had it not been for Maia's cancer diagnosis and I'm not sure what if any treatment she had after her surgery at the end of 2019 and not really our business to know either.

They must surely be quite rusty - Torvill & Dean were mentioned earlier but they were doing a lot of shows and professional competitions and they didn't have the level of domestic competition that the Shibutanis have. And really if they wanted to be 'contenders' for Milano-Cortina they would have been advised to have come back earlier but we don't know anything more that what the statement said; perhaps they will speak more in future about the timing.
 
Part of it looks to be about not splitting the team event in 2018.
I forgot about that. But hey things have abalanced out. Chock and Bates have been on the end of a lot of good fortune skating in an era with good teams but not great. Winning three world titles two with errors. THe judges seemingly boost Chock and BAtes even if they deserve to win they often seem to get astronomical marks that arguably are too generous. They have 3 world titles the Shibs none.
 
Yes it does feel like a long shot for them to even make the US team never mind be contenders for a medal if they do. They may have made a comeback sooner had it not been for Maia's cancer diagnosis and I'm not sure what if any treatment she had after her surgery at the end of 2019 and not really our business to know either.

They must surely be quite rusty - Torvill & Dean were mentioned earlier but they were doing a lot of shows and professional competitions and they didn't have the level of domestic competition that the Shibutanis have. And really if they wanted to be 'contenders' for Milano-Cortina they would have been advised to have come back earlier but we don't know anything more that what the statement said; perhaps they will speak more in future about the timing.
I am sure they thought about why they were coming back not that we will every know the "real" truth For the media there will always be a spin. I am sure they weighed the costs - physically, emotionally, life opportuinity I have no idea if they have jobs, careers I just hope it will not be like Torvilland Deans Last Dance. THat was horrible watching this great team come back and do Bolero 40 years later Yes, we all get older but it was just so sad. I kept saying why? Why? Do not ruin our memories of the great Boleror routine of trying to bring it back to life now.. It was kind of sad.
 
I am sure they thought about why they were coming back not that we will every know the "real" truth For the media there will always be a spin. I am sure they weighed the costs - physically, emotionally, life opportuinity I have no idea if they have jobs, careers I just hope it will not be like Torvilland Deans Last Dance. THat was horrible watching this great team come back and do Bolero 40 years later Yes, we all get older but it was just so sad. I kept saying why? Why? Do not ruin our memories of the great Boleror routine of trying to bring it back to life now.. It was kind of sad.
What are you talking about with Torvill and Dean? When they came back for the 94 Olympics their programs were History of Love, and then "Let's Face the Music and Dance."
 
What are you talking about with Torvill and Dean? When they came back for the 94 Olympics their programs were History of Love, and then "Let's Face the Music and Dance."

I don't think @Skater Boy was talking about the 94 Olympics. I think he was referring to a more recent event. Their recent farewell tour, perhaps?
 
I guess my feeling about the Shibs coming back is that I hope the judges judge them on their current skating ability and not on their reputation. If they do beat out any of the other couples it should be because they're better. We obviously want to field the best teams and if they're part of that - more power to them.
 
Is nice that news .i have faith their comeback will be as spectacular as Alyssa Comeback in World’s final
I hope the judges judge them on their current skating ability and not on their reputation.
I Couldn’t agree more also add they can adapt and update with the current SP requirements. I think they will return more mature and seeing things from a new perspective. Always comebacks are for better and brings new air to the competition.
 
What are you talking about with Torvill and Dean? When they came back for the 94 Olympics their programs were History of Love, and then "Let's Face the Music and Dance."
I am talking about their current shows. It is kind of sad to see them try to rekiindle Bolero
 
Remember, also, with the Team event that changes can only be made between programmes in two of the four disciplines.
That;s a good point. If the Shibs had declined to skate both segments (at the 2018 Olympics) then either Adam or Mirai would have been out. I am sure that the USFSA had a hand in shaping the make-up of the team and in making "suggestions" about which discipline to double up on. I think it is more accurate to say that the Shibs were willing t do both segments. As I recall at the time various strategic reason given for why Nathan did not do the LP.

On the subject of dusting off old programs, I for one wouldn't mind seeing Cold Play again. I can't judge the quality of the actual choreography as such, but IMO they performed it to perfection in 2016.
 
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It's unfortunately the only thing the average member of the public know them for. When I told somebody I was a skater once, they asked if I could do "the bolero" in the same way as layman asks if you can do "the triple axel" 🥲
I've more than once told someone I'm a pairs skater, and they exclaim, "Oh, I loved Bolero! Do you do that dance, too?" :rolleye::angry2:
 
I am sure they thought about why they were coming back not that we will every know the "real" truth For the media there will always be a spin. I am sure they weighed the costs - physically, emotionally, life opportuinity I have no idea if they have jobs, careers I just hope it will not be like Torvilland Deans Last Dance. THat was horrible watching this great team come back and do Bolero 40 years later Yes, we all get older but it was just so sad. I kept saying why? Why? Do not ruin our memories of the great Boleror routine of trying to bring it back to life now.. It was kind of sad.
They are almost in their 70. If their Bolero moved anything in me (TBH it didn't and I find it probably the most overhyped program in history), I would be thrilled to see them performing it for the last time the same way I'm thrilled to hear my fav singers/bands in their farawell tours performing without playback.
 
I don't think @Skater Boy was talking about the 94 Olympics. I think he was referring to a more recent event. Their recent farewell tour, perhaps?
Exactly. I just don't want a team to make us think memories of what they really were Time will tell I guess And I hope it works out for everyone. It does add to the drama - anything can help they could come back and be world threats or they might not even make it out of the US. I don't think people understood what I am trying to say yes skating is in their blood but life decisions by people are often a constant weighing of what is in the best interests You do something if it isin the best interests after weighing the costs, the benefits, what if anything I am giving up. I don't know what the shibsibs have on their current table ie jobs, education but the cost benefit analysis must have favoured coming back. They wouldn't really be stealing someone's spot because it is owned by no one You earn it (well hopefully.

THis gives Zueva a possible top team as it seems coaching ic cyclical It was well not to mention those Russian coaches, Ship and Zueva then Zueva and now IAM Dubreil et co. Some time Marie France will pushed aside by the next flavour.
 
Is nice that news .i have faith their comeback will be as spectacular as Alyssa Comeback in World’s final

I Couldn’t agree more also add they can adapt and update with the current SP requirements. I think they will return more mature and seeing things from a new perspective. Always comebacks are for better and brings new air to the competition.
It will be exciting. But Alyssa was only two years out this is seven and we are talking two people who need to be in synch.
 
It will be exciting. But Alyssa was only two years out this is seven and we are talking two people who need to be in synch.
Good point. 7 years and some months for resynchronizing is like fight against clock , i think a lot ballet and communication . I hope they can achieve it.
 
How do we know they haven't been skating and working out during those 7 years just out of habit? We - or at least me - have no idea what they've been doing because they've been pretty much out of the limelight. The other thing to consider is these 2 have been skating together almost since they could walk. Getting that synchronicity back will be a challenge but not insurmountable. I'm in "wait and see" mode. I've always liked them and hope they do well.
 
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I'm more than happy for them or anyone else who wants to return: it's sport and although we all know that ID judging is the most subjective/political of all disciplines (so I think saying 'as long as it's fair' is a bit wishful anyway) there really isn't any gatekeeping except what they or that anyone else does on the ice. There are no 'deserved' places, for them or for the current US couples. And they of all people know the huge level of work they need to do to get to Olympic level again, if anyone is prepared to put in that level of the hard yards then they should be given a chance.

If their Bolero moved anything in me (TBH it didn't and I find it probably the most overhyped program in history), I would be thrilled to see them performing it for the last time the same way I'm thrilled to hear my fav singers/bands in their farawell tours performing without playback.
I wouldn't want to see them do it now either, I like it (for a start, I like it but have no idea how much of that liking is the fuzzy but fond memories of it being the very first skate tiny me ever saw) but it's a young, teenage love and all that program and it's been a long time since they can evoke that. But if fans pay to see their favourite performers one last (or not last, how many farewell and then reunion tours have some bands done?) time, most are honestly paying to see the big hits no matter what. And they don't come bigger, fs wise, than that Bolero.
 
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