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Meagan Duhamel suspended for two weeks

While I understand Meagan, I do think she yelled at wrong person.


Nah, everone who are relevant for her career will know.

We don't know who else Meagan yelled at, just that it wasn't at the rink. ;)

Jumping off, the rumors have been around for a while (at least in North America websites and social media) so I'm not sure it affects Meagan that much. If I were a parent, and everything is true, I wouldn't let my children coached by the other person. I'd rather have them coached by Meagan.
 
What Meagan is doing now is simply saying : my girls and I are will be strong women. They were already exposed. She didn't do that herself until things got public.

What she is doing, in my view and simply put, is publicly using her daughters to try and justify her actions / farm sympathy for her cause. It's not even done in an outburst of emotion, as the yelling might have been, it's a calculated and deliberate PR move. And it's not right on my book by any means or justification.

If her daughters were already exposed, she should be the first one to try and shield them as much as possible, and not further exploit them and throw them into the limelight. Especially considering that this is basically a conflict between their parents, the girls should not be thrown into the middle of it by one of them.

You may not like her, you may have your opinion about the whole situation but please don't judge her as a mother, this is not cool.

It may be cool or not cool, but I do feel strongly about parents deliberately using their children for their own PR goals. And I was struck by the original post I quoted because it seemed very strange to me that when it comes to protecting the well-being of children, we were supposed to hold random strangers, who may not even know about them, to higher accountable standards than their own mother :shrug:
 
What she is doing, in my view and simply put, is publicly using her daughters to try and justify her actions / farm sympathy for her cause. It's not even done in an outburst of emotion, as the yelling might have been, it's a calculated and deliberate PR move. And it's not right on my book by any means or justification.

If her daughters were already exposed, she should be the first one to try and shield them as much as possible, and not further exploit them and throw them into the limelight. Especially considering that this is basically a conflict between their parents, the girls should not be thrown into the middle of it by one of them.



It may be cool or not cool, but I do feel strongly about parents deliberately using their children for their own PR goals. And I was struck by the original post I quoted because it seemed very strange to me that when it comes to protecting the well-being of children, we were supposed to hold random strangers, who may not even know about them, to higher accountable standards than their own mother :shrug:
The real deal here is that nobody is blaming Bruno and the other coach. I won't elaborate because it would be speculative but without their bad behavior, there wouldn't be anything else happening. Meagan reacted the way she did. Far from ideal. However, the real problem doesn't come from her actions but those of the other two adults involved here.

Let's reverse roles for a second, if a man yelled at another male coach for whatever similar reasons, do you think it would have gone the same way? Why is it that a woman cannot defend herself and her family?
 
If the rumors are true, I would be laying hands and getting more than a two week suspension. 😁

It seems like the suspension fits the "crime". Meagan has taken responsibility and I agree with Meagan about teaching her daughters to stand up for themselves.
Yeah, I would say that Meagan Duhamel has a strong personality, which is great. It's one of the reasons why she was so successful in pairs skating. I truly enjoyed the passion and dedication that she and Eric gave to their career together. At the start of their partnership, they seemed an odd match physically, but they ended up making it work through hard work and mutual ambition.

OTOH, while none of us are perfect, and pointing out the human failings of others does not negate one's own character flaws, I must say I was uncomfortable with how much Meagan whined and played the victim when Eric successfully partnered with Vanessa James (James/ Radford won 2022 World bronze medal, and subsequently had a wonderful show career -- they recently parted ways). Meagan ultimately ended up losing a commentating position after making unpleasant comments about Eric & Vanessa when they were recovering from COVID and had to withdraw from 2022 Cdn Nationals. Sadly, I believe she also lost a friendship and mutual bond with Eric, which didn't have to happen.

It's commendable for Meagan to teach her daughters to speak up for themselves in life. It's also important to balance self-advocacy with discretion, along with avoiding selfish impulses and aggressive behavior.
 
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The real deal here is that nobody is blaming Bruno and the other coach. I won't elaborate because it would be speculative but without their bad behavior, there wouldn't be anything else happening. Meagan reacted the way she did. Far from ideal. However, the real problem doesn't come from her actions but those of the other two adults involved here.

Let's reverse roles for a second, if a man yelled at another male coach for whatever similar reasons, do you think it would have gone the same way? Why is it that a woman cannot defend herself and her family?
I guess that doesn't excuse the public yelling. 🤔 I would think there should be conversations held in private with her husband, in particular. And perhaps speak directly with the other coach privately after clearing the air with her husband?
 
I guess that doesn't excuse the public yelling. 🤔 I would think there should be conversations held in private with her husband, in particular. And perhaps speak directly with the other coach privately after clearing the air with her husband?
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I cannot say more. But even without going there, people can react too strongly. It happens all the time. What's inexcusable is that someone cheated on her. I'm starting to understand why she felt so upset when Eric teamed up with Vanessa now.
 
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What she is doing, in my view and simply put, is publicly using her daughters to try and justify her actions / farm sympathy for her cause. It's not even done in an outburst of emotion, as the yelling might have been, it's a calculated and deliberate PR move. And it's not right on my book by any means or justification.

If her daughters were already exposed, she should be the first one to try and shield them as much as possible, and not further exploit them and throw them into the limelight. Especially considering that this is basically a conflict between their parents, the girls should not be thrown into the middle of it by one of them.



It may be cool or not cool, but I do feel strongly about parents deliberately using their children for their own PR goals. And I was struck by the original post I quoted because it seemed very strange to me that when it comes to protecting the well-being of children, we were supposed to hold random strangers, who may not even know about them, to higher accountable standards than their own mother :shrug:
I have to agree with all of this. Using the children for point-scoring in a marriage bust-up is unfortunately all too common, it is always selfish and wrong (and hurts the kids, is he their father? if so that makes it more selfish to use them publicly) no matter how dressed up in fine words about 'teaching'.

From an outside and fairly ignorant point of view (aka all of us, and we never know the private mess behind the public one) it is clear that he is behaving by far the worser, as a cheater and a seeming scummy piece of work, and she has huge grounds to be aggrieved. But no one except the kiddies being exposed to adult toxicity, on the rink and in that picture - is coming out at all well.
 
You may not like her, you may have your opinion about the whole situation but please don't judge her as a mother, this is not cool.
That picture and the caption under it is what is not cool.

The real deal here is that nobody is blaming Bruno and the other coach.
Officially no (but we all know what sporting officialdom are and have for years been like that so no surprises only cynicism). I took a brief glimpse round the various skating sites and what social media much cares and it's very anti-Bruno.

Looks to me like she got a light slap on the wrist purely because someone - maybe a parent of the other youngsters at the rink - reacted protectively to what happened right there and then.
 
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Well, imagine if safe sport organizations would have existed when Usova bashed Grishuk's head against the bar-top in Lake Placid...
Sorry, but I wouldn't give these hastly thrown together 'safe sport' entities any legitimacy or credibility. All have a shoddy track record. Unaccountable SafeSport in the U.S. has only caused undue harm and further chaos to numerous athletes across multiple sports. Do some extensive research about SS, which is an entity still under U.S. congressional investigation for numerous egregious actions and inactions, including questionable hiring practices, financial mismanagement, irresponsible handling of cases, failure to respond to legal requests to release information, etc. The firing of their previous CEO does not resolve anything, as the serious problems extend prior to and beyond her tenure.

IMO, it's up to the sport of figure skating itself to demonstrate leadership on the complicated and out-of-control major and minor problems of abuse and the problematic skating culture that exists in part due to deep-seated issues in our larger culture. There's simply a lack of bold, decent, commonsense leadership, and not just in figure skating, sadly.
 
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I cannot say more. But even without going there, people can react too strongly. It happens all the time. What's inexcusable is being cheated on. I'm starting to understand why she felt so upset when Eric teamed up with Vanessa now.
Just because 'it happens all the time,' does not excuse Meagan's impulsive decision or intentional choice to publicly berate the other party.

We heard about another cheating instance in figure skating, recently. But, no public outbursts occurred that I'm aware of.

I am not sure what you mean by 'understanding' Meagan's selfish, self-pitying, OTT whining when Eric partnered with Vanessa. 🙄 Seemingly, Eric did not tell Meagan right away due to fearing her reaction, in addition to his wanting to be certain of Vanessa's release from France first.
 
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Just because 'it happens all the time,' does not excuse Meagan's impulsive decision or intentional choice to publicly berate the other party.

We heard about another cheating instance in figure skating, recently. But, no public outbursts occurred that I'm aware
Different story. Different people. Different context. Not everyone has to react the same. Meagan is Meagan. It would almost be weird if she didn't react this way.

In the end, she's still at Oakville and the other two are no longer coaching there. Maybe that means something too
 
If what came up when I did a search there now is true, good on Meagan! :bow: :clap: :points:

After being a big fan when she was competing, I lost my respect for her a few years ago. But it has now come back big time.

I have no time for cheaters. (Come to think of it, in either meaning of the word!)

Shame on Skate Canada for suspending her. They are totally sending out the wrong message. (Reminds me of that time when Will Smith was villified by the media for defending his wife's honour at the Oscars. He should have been praised!)

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Yeah, I don't know all the details. But this seems like a situation where reprimands and arbitration or civil litigation, plus public apologies are more in line than SC levying what appears to be a slap-on-the-hand two-week suspension to Duhamel. They could simply have barred her from visiting the rink till tempers cool down. Such poor behavior by all the adults in question. SMH!
 
Different story. Different people. Different context. Not everyone has to react the same. Meagan is Meagan. It would almost be weird if she didn't react this way.

In the end, she's still at Oakville and the other two are no longer coaching there. Maybe that means something too
Yeah, sure. I was simply responding to you saying that cheating "happens all the time." That's never an excuse for anyone's egregious behavior. There was another recent, well-known instance of cheating in figure skating. But no matter where or when it happens, the prevalence of it never excuses public yelling and aggressive behavior. There are other, more effective ways to stand up for oneself when wronged by a significant other.

"Meagan is Meagan," excuses nothing.
 
Yeah, sure. I was simply responding to you saying that cheating "happens all the time." That's never an excuse for anyone's egregious behavior. There was another recent, well-known instance of cheating in figure skating. But no matter where or when it happens, the prevalence of it never excuses public yelling and aggressive behavior. There are other, more effective ways to stand up for oneself when wronged by a significant other.

"Meagan is Meagan," excuses nothing.
I didn't say cheating happens all the time ..I said people can react too strongly as something that happens all the time. Rumors are rumors regarding the rest.

I didn't say Meagan is Meagan to exonerate her but in the sense that it's expected she may react like this. She wears her heart on her sleeve.

I'm done with this unless there's new development.
 
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Sorry, not on the Meagan blame game train.

She is not exploiting her children, at least not in any of the IG posts I have seen. Very tasteful and proud mom type photos. I can't stretch so far (I'm not Jason Brown ;)) that I consider that exploitation. I also don't clutch my pearls, at a one time yelling or screaming for a specific non skating reason. Good thing those poor kids in the rink didn't grow up in Southwest Philly. :biggrin: (far different of course from consistently treating a skating partner or a student to screaming or invective).

Meagan is a strong personality and I admire that for her. Some folks don't. Meh. I think the right result was arrived at here, and if all is true I sure as heck hope that other coach is no longer at Skate Oakville.
 
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I cannot say more. But even without going there, people can react too strongly. It happens all the time. What's inexcusable is that someone cheated on her. I'm starting to understand why she felt so upset when Eric teamed up with Vanessa now.
I guess maybe you are saying in your above post that people can react too strongly to cheating, when you mention, "It happens all the time." That's what I was responding to.

Yep, accountability and taking responsibility rather than leading with excuses is a high bar for many, for sure.
 
Sorry, not on the Meagan blame game train.

She is not exploiting her children, at least not in any of the IG posts I have seen. Very tasteful and proud mom type photos. I can't stretch so far (I'm not Jason Brown ;)) that I consider that exploitation. I also don't clutch my pearls, at a one time yelling or screaming for a specific non skating reason. Good thing those poor kids in the rink didn't grow up in Southwest Philly. :biggrin: (far different of course from consistently treating a skating partner or a student to screaming or invective).

Meagan is a strong personality and I admire that for her. Some folks don't. Meh. I think the right result was arrived at here, and if all is true I sure as heck hope that other coach is no longer at Skate Oakville.
To each their own reactions. Blessings to all the children involved in broken marriages (and to children suffering everywhere in the world). ☮️ Hopefully, the adults will sort out their affairs and grievances while keeping the wellbeing of the children uppermost.
 
I read Meghan's post as her wanting her children to know that they could stand up for themselves if they were exploited or cheated on by a man or partner, not as her exploiting her children or using them for PR.
If that was the truth, she would have told them so in private, NOT blazoned it on her own social media. And NOT with a picture of them for everyone to ogle.

Again, I ask is he their father?

Let me be very clear, nothing she does mitigates in any way cheating and being scummy, that is on him. He is by far the worst. But making your kids a public part of a toxic marital split up.... that is wrong.
 
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