Mens' LP

[Mathman]

I hope Scott doesnt think Evan will win . I still see this behind Chan by a few points. He needed the 3toe at the end of the 2nd axel.

He already did two triple Axels and two triple Lutzes so he couldn't do another triple toe (Zayak.)

 

[seniorita]

I can bet 100$ that the Olympic Champion will be the one who was not present at this competition.

I would like an OC to win with his own strength and not based to others failure to win.
If plushenko doesnt come back, if weir doesnt go, if lambiel doesnt come back I will root for Kozuka for Olympic Champion. Or maybe Ten.

 

[ks777]

As much as I am happy for Evan for winning, at the same time, guys are winning the world championships with just 3 axels like late 80's, and It just bothers me. I hope someone with a quad like Plushenko, Oda, Joubert, Takahashi, Verner or Kozuka(hope he has a solid quad next season) wins the Olympics.

 

[Hsuhs]

I did not write that. I said I think he or Plushenko might do well. Don't attribute stuff to me that I didn't say. Of course I'd rather have Joubert win it, but I'm a fan of Joubert and of great figure skating, and to me Chan's skating is not great, so I'd prefer other people on the podium.

Oh. Thank you for the explanation. This sounds so much nicer.

 

[museksk8r]

I can't help but think about all those voodoo dolls being made now in the rest of the world...

Karma works in mysterious ways.

 

[Hsuhs]

As much as I am happy for Evan for winning, at the same time, guys are winning the world championships with just 3 axels like late 80's, and It just bothers me.

They have tough in-betweens, and those equal quads?

 

[evangeline]

They have tough in-betweens, and those equal quads?

Does Lysacek have particularly tough transitions? Chan, maybe, but Lysacek's program seemed sort of empty to me. Glad he ditched the arm-waving though.

 

[Buttercup]

They have tough in-betweens, and those equal quads?

No, they don't. A top skater should be doing both. The point is not to progress in one area at the expense of another.

ETA: I'm kind of confused by this description of the skating in the Toronto Star:

Skating to Rachmaninov, Chan opened with a lusty triple Axel and followed up with six more three-rotation jumps, including three in combination and another late triple Axel.

What is a lusty triple axel, and how is it different from a regular triple axel?

 

[JanFUNKY]

Please skategods, please!

Come back Lambiel!

I ran into Lambiel on Monday night after one of the practice sessions and talked to him a little bit as we were walking out. I told him I missed his skating and he said that he's actually still skating and training.

 

[oxade21]

I just do not understand what is the point of transitions if there is nowhere to transition to?
Tonight we have probably seen worse technical content from some top male skaters than we will see tomorrow at Ladies competition. This is beyond depressing. The worst Worlds in my memory???

 

[oxade21]

i ran into lambiel on monday night after one of the practice sessions and talked to him a little bit as we were walking out. I told him i missed his skating and he said that he's actually still skating and training.

yes!!!!

 

[Hsuhs]

I don't know, guys. If in-betweens are new purple, male figure skaters better start doing them excessively.

Evan's free looked today as a whole, as a story, IMO. So I guess there were transitions.

 

[museksk8r]

No, they don't. A top skater should be doing both. The point is not to progress in one area at the expense of another.

I think the judges have made it clear that the point is to do what you can do and do it well with the best quality you possibly can with full rotations, correct edge takeoffs, and one foot landings. A skater also has to perform quality spins and footwork sequences. Max out all of your jump passes, skate with speed, strong basic skating and edging. It's completely not worth it to try the quad if you can't do it, not if you want to win, anyway.

 

[cloudkicker09]

I just do not understand what is the point of transitions if there is nowhere to transition to?
Tonight we have probably seen worse technical content from some top male skaters than we will see tomorrow at Ladies competition. This is beyond depressing. The worst Worlds in my memory???

YES no idea why I even bothered to watch

I WANT TO SEE QUADS!!! Not sissy stuff!!!

 

[ANW]

Final Results

6 Takahiko KOZUKA JPN 222.18 5 7
7 Nobunari ODA JPN 218.16 7 8

LOL, what a magic finish for the Japanese team! Just enough to secure the 3 spots for Olympics

 

[museksk8r]

I ran into Lambiel on Monday night after one of the practice sessions and talked to him a little bit as we were walking out. I told him I missed his skating and he said that he's actually still skating and training.

Yes, he still skates and trains. He participates in many skating tours throughout Europe and Asia, usually performing 4 different triples in his exhibition numbers. He has to maintain his fitness and conditioning in order to do that. Reportedly, it's much less intensive training now though. He says he trains 1 hour every day.

I'm glad you got the opportunity to meet him . . . you must have been so excited. I know I would have been!

 

[Mathman]

What is a lusty triple axel, and how is it different from a regular triple axel?

I ran into Lambiel on Monday night after one of the practice sessions and talked to him a little bit as we were walking out. I told him I missed his skating and he said that he's actually still skating and training.

Thanks for that!

Tonight we have probably seen worse technical content from some top male skaters than we will see tomorrow at Ladies competition. This is beyond depressing.

Actually, I was thinking just the oposite. I think there is a pretty good chance that the ladies will put on a splatfest and make us wish we were back watching the men.

Almost all the men could at least do a triple Lutz.

edited to add: OK, Mrs. MM just leaned in to tell me what a "lusty" triple Axel is. One done by Ilia Kulik.

 

[oxade21]

:

Actually, I was thinking just the oposite. I think there is a pretty good chance that the ladies will put on a splatfest and make us wish we were back watching the men.

Almost all the men could at least do a triple Lutz.

Ohh, please don't jinx it. I will not survive that.

 

[Buttercup]

I think the judges have made it clear that the point is to do what you can do and do it well with the best quality you possibly can with full rotations, correct edge takeoffs, and one foot landings. A skater also has to perform quality spins and footwork sequences. It's completely not worth it to try the quad if you can't do it, not if you want to win, anyway.

I like that it's not just about the jumps anymore, but I worry we're moving to a point where the harder jumps are devalued too much. Two years in a row we've had a World Champion with no quad, and good as both may have been (haven't seen Lysacek's LP yet), I can't be happy about that. Chan's 3A combo had a 1T on the end. At this point Mao and Miki might have harder jump content than some of the top guys.

I have no problem with Joubert not winning it - I like Brian and have since he started out in 2002, but from what I've read, that was not a chmapion's performance, and hopefully he can put it behind him and come back strong next season. If he looked pissed off, my guess is it was at himself, because he could have won it and he knows it.

I'm happy for Evan, I'm happy Tomas didn't have a total meltdown this time out, and I'm happy the Japanese men got the magic 13 - I'm not a big fan of any of the top Japanese guys, but it wouldn't have been right for one of them to watch Olys on TV. I just wish that there was more risk-taking, and not just in terms of the quads. It can't be only about who's cleanest.

: OK, Mrs. MM just leaned in to tell me what a "lusty" triple Axel is. One done by Ilia Kulik.

Thanks, Mrs. MM! Lucky Katia.

 

[stickle]

TES should have been even lower. The only part agree with is that his Transition point should have been higher but that still doesn't give those mammoth scores he is getting. CORRUPT JUDGING!!!

You know, I read a lot of posts and seldom comment, but your vitriol is just disgraceful. It's obvious from your comments you don't know much about the finer points of figure skating but that aside, your personal invective against a few people is really sad. It must be tough to have so much unhappiness inside you that you have to lash out with such a mean spirit.