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When I was in college back in the day, the only schools in the Ivy League that were impressive were the big 3. The rest of them are like Miki Ando, people know they're good, but not sure why they're good. :p
How time changed.
 
Stanford is not part of the Ivy League, but it is better than several of the schools that are part of the Ivy League and it is right up there with Harvard and Yale in terms of prestige. Plus, the food is pretty darn good by university dining hall standards.
 
what is the Ivy League?:)

From Princeton's site:
http://etcweb.princeton.edu/CampusWWW/Companion/ivy_league.html
Ivy League is the name generally applied to eight universities (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Pennsylvania, Princeton, and Yale) that over the years have had common interests in scholarship as well as in athletics. Stanley Woodward, New York Herald Tribune sports writer, coined the phrase in the early thirties.

And a couple of other definitions:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Ivy+League
Ivy League
n
(Social Science / Education) US
a. the. a group of eight universities (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth College, Harvard, Princeton, the University of Pennsylvania, and Yale) that have similar academic and social prestige in the US to Oxford and Cambridge in Britain
adj.
Of or resembling the traditions of the Ivy League.


http://dictionary.spellcheck.com/dictionary/ivy league
Definition of IVY LEAGUE
1: of, relating to, or characteristic of a group of long-established eastern United States colleges and universities widely regarded as high in scholastic and social prestige
2: of, relating to, or characteristic of the students of Ivy League schools
First Known Use of IVY LEAGUE
1936


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The difference is Debbie was a much better skater and became a World champion. I don't see that ever happening for Rachael.

Good point.
 
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Stanford is not part of the Ivy League, but it is better than several of the schools that are part of the Ivy League and it is right up there with Harvard and Yale in terms of prestige.

Stanford is often referred to as the Ivy of the West and Northwestern University (Evanston, IL) and University of Chicago are referred to as the Ivies of the Midwest. This is because all three of these universities have stellar academic reputations on par with the eight Ivy League schools. Of course, Stanford plays sports in the Pac 12, Northwestern plays sports in the misnamed Big 10 (that has 12 schools), and University of Chicago plays Division 3 sports (but was a founding member of the Big 10 and still participates in the Big Ten Academic Consortium).

Debi Thomas went to Stanford for undergrad but went to Medical School at Northwestern (a friend of mine was a classmate of hers at med school). :biggrin:
 
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Stanford is not part of the Ivy League, but it is better than several of the schools that are part of the Ivy League and it is right up there with Harvard and Yale in terms of prestige. Plus, the food is pretty darn good by university dining hall standards.
I believe the term "Ivy League" was based on the prestigious Eastern Schools of the USA. Sports in those schools were as important the curriculums, and first rate professors.

Nowadays, I believe one could consider Stanford as a most prestigious school on the West coast. I think Tennis is an important sport at Stanford rather than the team sports of the northeast. Maybe Rachael can promulgate figure skating there.
 
I believe the term "Ivy League" was based on the prestigious Eastern Schools of the USA. Sports in those schools were as important the curriculums, and first rate professors.

Nowadays, I believe one could consider Stanford as a most prestigious school on the West coast. I think Tennis is an important sport at Stanford rather than the team sports of the northeast. Maybe Rachael can promulgate figure skating there.

Unlike Ivy League schools Stanford offers full athletic scholarships and lowers it academic standards quite a bit to accept top athletes.

John MacEnroe went to Stanford for a year or two as did Tiger Woods.

John Elway also went to Stanford and no one has ever confused him with Albert Einstein :)
 
I believe the term "Ivy League" was based on the prestigious Eastern Schools of the USA. Sports in those schools were as important the curriculums, and first rate professors.

Nowadays, I believe one could consider Stanford as a most prestigious school on the West coast. I think Tennis is an important sport at Stanford rather than the team sports of the northeast. Maybe Rachael can promulgate figure skating there.

Joe, as a UC graduate, I'd have to respectfully disagree. Many of us on the west coast believe UC Berkeley is a much better school =P Stanford just costs more.
 
Although the Ivy League is associated with prestige and accademic excellence, it was originally an athletic conference.
 
Although the Ivy League is associated with prestige and accademic excellence, it was originally an athletic conference.

That is true and for sports like football and baseball it was the top conference in USA way back in the day.

A few years after WW2 the Ivy League decided to stop offering sports scholarships and raised the admission standards which basically meant top athletes went to other schools.
 
Just for fun I looked up the list of which universities worldwide have won the most Nobel prizes (including all people "affiliated" with the University in various ways).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_university_affiliation

The top ten are:

1 Columbia University
2 University of Cambridge
3 University of Chicago
4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
5 Harvard University
6 University of California, Berkeley
7 University of Paris
8 Oxford University
9 University of Heidelberg
10 Stanford University

Yale is 11th and Princeton 18th.
 
Just for fun I looked up the list of which universities worldwide have won the most Nobel prizes (including all people "affiliated" with the University in various ways).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_university_affiliation

The top ten are:

1 Columbia University
2 University of Cambridge
3 University of Chicago
4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
5 Harvard University
6 University of California, Berkeley
7 University of Paris
8 Oxford University
9 University of Heidelberg
10 Stanford University

Yale is 11th and Princeton 18th.

Which university did Nobel winners Nelson Mandela and Ernest Hemingway attend? :think:
 
Which universities the Nobel winners attended is not significant. MM's list is about affiliations sometime in their lives. Many American winners are immigrants or have dual citizenships and often their prizes are won for work done decades ago elsewhere. It spoke more about the financial power, including top notch facilities, of these institutions to draw top researchers. And these prizes would, I suspect, mostly be for sciences rather than Peace Prizes. The Peace Prize winners are affiliated with the University of Life.

As the US loses its appeal to lure immigrants and positive brain drain, number of its Nobel winners will decline.
 
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just for fun i looked up the list of which universities worldwide have won the most nobel prizes (including all people "affiliated" with the university in various ways).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_nobel_laureates_by_university_affiliation

the top ten are:

1 columbia university
2 university of cambridge
3 university of chicago
4 massachusetts institute of technology
5 harvard university
6 university of california, berkeley
7 university of paris
8 oxford university
9 university of heidelberg
10 stanford university

yale is 11th and princeton 18th.

go bears!
 
To answer my earlier question Nelson Mandela attended the "University of Hard Knocks."

Ernest Hemingway graduated from Oak Park high school and went to work as a cub reporter for the Kansas City Star newspaper and then to Italy as an ambulance driver for the Red Cross during WW1.

His experiences there led to "A Farewell To Arms" and prior to that a job in Paris as a reporter/writer.
 
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Mandela had an interesting life, to say the least. (I just looked him up.)

As an undergraduate he attended the University College of Fort Hare, the first university in South Africa for Africans, as was expected of all Thembo royalty at the time. They kicked him out for leading student protests. Later he studied law at the University of Witwaters, and began practicing law in 1949.

By the way, Mandela’s sport in college was boxing.

While in prison he studied law by correspondence from the University of London. Eventually he also earned a degree from the University of South Africa.

I see that one of the Nobel Peace laureates from pace-setting Columbia University was that peaceful fellow Teddy Roosevelt in 1906. This was for helping to negotiate the peace treaty that ended the Russia-Japanese War. Roosevelt was the first American to win a Nobel Prize in any field.

Trivia question. Who is the only person to win Nobel prizes in two different sciences? :)
 
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Trivia question. Who is the only person to win Nobel prizes in two different sciences? :)

I don't know but a good question. Perhaps the Russian who was a leading nuclear scientist and also a voice for freedom and peace.
 
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