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Canadian skater Commits Suicide After Bullying

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15-year-old skater Jamie Hubley committed suicide. "He was treated cruelly simply because he liked figure skating over hockey," stated The Canadian Press. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...awa-teens-suicide-father-says/article2204647/

"We need players in all sports to take up the example of U.K. rugby star Ben Cohen and commit themselves to combating homophobic and negative remarks about gays," quoted Ottawa Citizen. http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/Coming+should+easier/5564549/story.html

Will Patric Chan have the moral courage to stand in the front line and help his fellow citizens fight against homophobia?
 
15-year-old skater Jamie Hubley committed suicide. "He was treated cruelly simply because he liked figure skating over hockey," stated The Canadian Press. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...awa-teens-suicide-father-says/article2204647/

"We need players in all sports to take up the example of U.K. rugby star Ben Cohen and commit themselves to combating homophobic and negative remarks about gays," quoted Ottawa Citizen. http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/Coming+should+easier/5564549/story.html

Will Patric Chan have the moral courage to stand in the front line and help his fellow citizens fight against homophobia?
As a gay man myself, I have to say that the first problem to tackle before tackling homophobia is bullying. Bullying isn't just a problem for gay kids, but a problem for all kids. The sad part is, of the kids we hear about committing suicide after being bullied, there are probably hundreds more who are not reported or publicised. Bullying is THE first (and probably easier) problem to conquer.

Homophobia, you'd be surprised, is present even in a sport like figure skating. Some would argue that Canada's program to make skating appear more masculine had homophobic overtones. In Rudy Galindo's book, he stated that judges told him time and again they wouldn't score him as well because his style was more "feminine."

That being said, I am very surprised no skater has composed an "It Gets Better" video.
 
Bullying isn't just a problem for gay kids, but a problem for all kids. The sad part is, of the kids we hear about committing suicide after being bullied, there are probably hundreds more who are not reported or publicised.

:thumbsup: Blue dog, I appreciate and agree with this! So sorry for this to happen.
 
The sad part is, of the kids we hear about committing suicide after being bullied, there are probably hundreds more who are not reported or publicised.

and none of them are non-gay stories, which makes this "just" a gay issue, even though most every child is bullied at least once in their life. I dealt with it all through school (and online, from adults believe it or not), just because I didn't date and because of religious beliefs. I was told I brought it on myself. And after a while I believed it. But the media ignores so much because of the "lack of shock value". Anderson Cooper likes to run his mouth saying he's doing a great service, but he picks and chooses and bullies as a media artist just as much as anyone else. Bullying for ANY reason is wrong. It shouldn't just be focussed on one group.

I'm sorry these have to happen. On some level I think this is becoming more and more common not just in the news but in life because of the coverage it's gotten. It's a reverse (perverse?) "safety in numbers."
 
I completely agree with blue dog. I went through some bullying as a teen, homophobic and otherwise, and made some regrettable choices myself in order to deflect it, including occasionally participating in it myself. It takes more courage to openly declare your true self, than to attempt to fit in and be part of a crowd. I wish I'd had more of the courage many of the young kids today are displaying. Fortunately, I found friends and got a lot of support from my family and found the confidence to move forward. Still, I understand the dark place many of these kids have found themselves in. I've been there myself.

These poor kids should be supported and nurtured for simply being who they are. The cultural influences that permit and encourage this sort of behavior have got to be changed for all youth. There's nothing sadder than seeing a young life extinguished before it's had a chance to fully blossom.

I know that members of the skating establishment read this forum, so I second blue dog in his call for them to take proactive steps to address this tragedy and acknowledge the role they can play in creating positive change. Most MLB teams, many NFL and NBA players and even NHL players have made It Gets Better videos. Ben Cohen and Hudson Taylor have been significantly out front in the anti-bullying movement. I'm sad to say that my two favorite sports (tennis and skating) have been virtually invisible in making a difference, especially given their very large LGBT fan bases. Perhaps those of us who follow skaters on twitter and facebook can message them and encourage them to make some sort of individual or collective effort to address this issue.
 
I feel sick every time I hear such a story. I was bullied from time to time as a kid (just for being an oddball really--the word dork hadn't been invented yet), but the most difficult occasion I ever endured was sitting next to someone else who was being bullied. This girl was a bit of an eccentric who reacted in an immature way when things went wrong. Of course her tendency to tantrums stimulated the response. I wasn't strong enough to yell or protest--we were all on transport on our way home from a gathering, where we would separate forever afterward. So I spent a few hours sitting penned up in my seat, hearing well-dressed young suburban ladies let loose at this kid who was melting down in the seat next to me--singing funny songs at her expense, commenting on her hair. That was the moment in my life I knew absolutely that I could never join in with such behavior even if it meant being ostracized forever. But I still wish I had been able to shout them down. I wonder if they ever think of that day.

It's such a diabolical thing, bullying, because just in the way that wolves gang up to cull a weakling from a herd of caribou, the effect is tremendously isolating. Other people are afraid to take action because maybe they will be bullied forever afterward too. It can go on for years. And the result is that we lose kids like this Jamie Hubley. Maybe, like Debi Thomas, he would have become a doctor after his skating career. Maybe like Michelle or YuNa, he would have gone into international diplomacy or charity work. We'll never know. Fifteen years old, and he couldn't see any other way out.

I'm not sure we can count on the youngsters now in skating to take a stand. They're probably too scared that someone will think they're gay--as if such a thing matters. But that's how young people are, especially many young men. Maybe some of the older skaters or the coaches could think of something to say. Homophobic bullying is an especially tricky form of bullying because kids are forming their identities at that age, and they're too anxious to be either brave or empathetic. It shouldn't be something to be anxious about, but there you are. Human nature is far behind what we would wish it to be.

Blue Dog, I remember reading stuff about John Curry and how his federation didn't think highly of him because he wasn't sufficiently "masculine." John Curry! The man who put men's skating and British men's skating on the map. Thank God the rest of us knew better. I wish some of us could have gotten through to Jamie Hubley, to let him know how eagerly we were waiting for him to step onto the world arena. His poor family; what a dreadful tragedy.
 
There have been some news stories about bullying that weren't about gay kids, Toni.

Apparently kids with Asperger's syndrome have a particularly hard time.
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=3006889&page=1

Growing up, Daniel Corcoran was the odd kid at school. He wasn't slow, but his coordination was off, and he tended to obsess on certain subjects, like light bulbs and air conditioners. At the time, his preoccupations with random objects seemed quirky, but harmless.

But when Corcoran entered middle school, his quirks were not accepted by many of his classmates and his life became a social nightmare filled with name calling and other cruelties.

...

Jed Baker, a psychologist who works with many kids with Asperger's, found out the situation for kids with the disorder was very severe. "In some areas, there have been reports of 90 percent of kids with Asperger's are getting bullied on a daily basis," he said.
 
I was bullied back in junior high in the 1960s and carry the mental scars today. Bad scars. Later, I received a degree in Education from the University of Illinois
and not one minute of that education was spent on dealing with bullying, including student teaching. I wonder what they teach teachers now about it?
My teacher friends tell me that if they even touch a bully (in some states) they could be the ones in trouble. With the general deterioration of mutual respect and
manners, along with assassination by social media, I can see why some kids dont want to go to school . Kids are kids and there will always
be bullys. But whats important is how we deal as a society with bullying in our school.
Chris who has a concealed weapons permit and wont be beaten again
 
It is sad to read this. And reading a teenager suicided for a situation like his, this makes me feel useless to react to things. Once I had hurt a bully boy with a basket ball on the face at school because he insulted my friend who was a weak student. Back then I was furious and wished I could do this to all, but some years ago I worked in a high school and whenever i was wathcing a child get bullied I felt helpless only because I realised the hostile kids had even more issues than the rest, I remember one that his father was a bigger idiot than the student, I just hoped the counsellors would see the source of the problem because both kind of children needed help. Otherwise bullies grow up and keep trating people the same.
And the new bullying trend through internet is really bad, I dont know if it is even worse cause it happens behind computers, mostly anonymously and without being able to control it. We have a section with children learning pc at work and it shows how much they react to the opinion of their internet friends, thats really worrying.
 
As a gay man myself, I have to say that the first problem to tackle before tackling homophobia is bullying. Bullying isn't just a problem for gay kids, but a problem for all kids.

This is so true. I have a friend whose daughter was cyberbullied terribly, just for being the kind of kid who has her own style and opinions and won't suck up to the "in crowd". Female on female bullying can be some of the nastiest out there.

IMO, school principals have to step up to the challenge of deterring bullying, from primary school right on up.
 
I am touched that all of you have shared your stories about bullying, and I am beyond happy that we've made it! However we can all agree something must be done. Not only can bullied kids commit suicide but they can also internalize and become bullies themselves. Bullying is never OK and it is sad that either schools have their hands tied behind their backs or they turn a deaf ear.
 
I wish there was an easy answer, like some 1940s movie where the school board gets together and empowers the schools to deal with the problem....bullys punished and or sent to reform school. But sadly, the lawyers will stand in the way of any real reform and the kids will suffer...I guess disiplining kids is so last century....tear falls....
 
I wish there was an easy answer, like some 1940s movie where the school board gets together and empowers the schools to deal with the problem....bullys punished and or sent to reform school. But sadly, the lawyers will stand in the way of any real reform and the kids will suffer...I guess disiplining kids is so last century....tear falls....

I know that it's harder to restrain kids these days because there's little if any respect for authority. Teachers used to be the last word--and some of them were terrifying people! Today and for the past few years, teachers have often been beaten up themselves by students, or by their parents. Anti-bullying programs have to be a concerted effort by the entire community.

I think one dreadful incentive to bullying is some of the awful reality shows they have on TV. The scenes of men in some version of roid rage and of women leaping across tables to attack one another physically are replayed regularly on some channels. I think this behavior becomes acceptable, because it's glorified on TV. People who behave like this become stars and are featured on magazine covers. Like so many other things, aggressive behavior has become a commodity. I know this isn't the only cause of bullying, but it is a factor in the cheapening of social contact.
 
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I certainly don't have any magic bullet, but I've noticed a difference between the social climate at schools where the principal pays lip service to deterring bullying, vs. others where the principal considers it a real problem and promotes a culture of positive interactions throughout the school. (I'm talking about elementary and middle schools here.)

I've seen programs like Peacemakers at the elementary level have a positive effect, where student "peacemakers" who are 3 or 4 years older take shifts in pairs (usually a boy and girl working together) during the primary recess period, as mentors that the younger kids can come to when they feel excluded from a game, or a disagreement has occurred, or someone was teasing them, etc. (Of course there are teachers on duty too, but often the kids are more comfortable going to older peers for help - it's not like they're "telling" or getting someone into trouble. The fact that it's socially acceptable to go to the older kids for help, though, sometimes makes it easier to go to the adults as well, when needed. Breaking the silence around bullying is really important.) The older kids seem to take pride in helping the younger ones resolve their disputes, often coaching the kids on how to work it out themselves and really taking on an increasingly sophisticated leadership role. It also helps these older kids to resolve their own conflicts, especially if they grow up with this concept from an early grade. If a large number of older students is involved in this program, it can benefit the social environment in their own grades too, from what I've seen. I'm not saying this particular approach would work in every situation, but I feel it's an example of just one way a school can foster a culture of positive interaction.
 
The first thing to do is to step in when you see bullying happening. Let the kids know they are not alone. A kind word in passing can go a really long way. Call your local school board and talk to them about taking proactive steps to address bullying and prevent it. That includes training and support for teachers and reaching out to parents to make sure they are helping in this effort. Support initiatives like the Trevor Project and the It Gets Better Project. Support can be as simple as adding your name to a pledge to oppose bullying, to volunteering your time, to making financial contributions. Contact your local officials if you live in an area where cyberbullying laws don't exist or are inadequate. Encourage them to act or at least educate themselves about these issues and the role their rhetoric can play in encouraging or combating this behavior.

These may not seem like they will make the problem go away, but they will start to change the tide.
 
Blue Dog mentioned that no skater has composed an "It Gets Better" video.
jcoates believed that members of the skating establishment read this forum, so they might take heed of our call for their proactive steps to create positive change. He also stated that support can be as simple as adding one's name to a pledge to oppose bullying.

I'm thinking: Maybe through brainstorming, we may come up with a simple step that every like-minded member of this forum can easily take, and that could lead to a concrete positive change (no matter how small it is) toward anti-bullying. For example (and this is only my inchoate idea, so criticisms or suggestions for amendment are needed and of course welcomed), we can create a thread that appeals to Skate Canada for an "It Gets Better" video. Members that support such initiative can simply respond to the thread and say as much or as little (e.g., nothing) as they want. At the end, the "members of the skating establishment" could easily see the number of supporters.

I know there are many ways to change and many institutions that need a change, but I think if we narrow our focus and call for a simple, specified action, we have a better chance of actually getting a result.
 
Not that they hadn't heard about it before, I'm sure, but last night, I posted the article you shared, skatinginbc, on Skate Canada's facebook, asking why there hasn't been a statement from the organization. This morning, I was pleased to find that my post had been deleted (hehehe) and in its place was this:

http://www.skatecanada.ca/tabid/2157/sni[2797]/1170/language/en-US/Default.aspx

Bullying has no place in life, or in sport, and it is our fervent hope that we would all work towards eliminating this harassing, demeaning behaviour from our society.

In honour of Jamie Hubley, Skate Canada will make a donation to the Youth Services Bureau of Ottawa.

With regards to an "it gets better" video--I have some skaters who, during their spare time, follow my facebook--I've urged them to speak out against bullying of all kinds.
 
Good for you, Blue Dog. You took the initiative at a time when it might really make a difference. We couldn't help Jamie, but maybe some other kid will hear something comforting at just the right moment. You never know.

I'm struck by the Tim Gunn recording for "It Gets Better," in which he said he actually attempted to take his life when he was a teenager and by sheer dumb luck didn't succeed. You never know who can be brought to that point, and if anyone can make the difference in one life, it is (as I think the Talmud says) like saving an entire world.
 
I tweeted USFSA yesterday asking why they had not made any public statements against bullying. No response yet. Lots of promotional tweets about reaching the 2000 tweet milestone (who cares?), Skate America, synchro skating and fantasy skating. No time apparently to stand up for bullied kids. Glad Skate Canada at least made a statement and a donation. Who's next to step up to the plate?
 
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