Wow, blows my mind, Never thought this would be their decision
Why? What's wrong with it? It seems like a good plan to me. Though I still doubt they'll make it to the free skate.
Wow, blows my mind, Never thought this would be their decision
I think (the U.S.) may end up regretting their choice of pairs.
Why? What's wrong with it? It seems like a good plan to me. Though I still doubt they'll make it to the free skate.
To me, that would be unsporting. In sports, you win…or you lose. Close doesn't count.Seems to me that the decision to let the ordinals decide and not the addition of the total points goes towards what Cinquanta has been advocating for: more drama. Even if it's to the detriment of sporting criteria, which was one of the main reasons to implement the new post-6.0 scoring system.
If 5 skaters' performances are virtually identical in the SP, why not award them with virtually the same marks and see how it goes?
This only works if you find a way to factor the scores so that a country that has an amazing lady will be on equal footing with a country that has an amazing man (where scores, and differences between scores, are potentially larger). Also you have to figure out how to account for the PCS, because these tend to be higher in some disciplines than others, and dance PCS are factored differently. And it introduces potential unfairness because judging panels can score relatively high or low, and just adding points favors countries who happen to be strong in the friendly-panel disciplines. Basically, you address one type of unfairness by creating others.I see what you mean, but shouldn't "Team" event suggest that it's the team's overall performance that should decide in the end? In Ski jumping, the team event is decided by adding each team member's points. Same with a relay, be it in Biathlon or Swimming: they don't do 4 separate races with a point system, but it's the added time of all the team that counts.
What I mean is that the fear of "bombing" a competition should be similar to what it is in the individual event: you're far off the lead if you bomb.
Wow, blows my mind, Never thought this would be their decision
The crucial thing for the U.S team to challenge for the gold will be the pairs. They should do very well in the dance and ladies in the team event, and fairly well in the mens.
The crucial thing for the Canadian team will be the womens where they could lose alot of ground to the U.S and Russia.
The crucial thing for the Russian team will be the mens which is a real wild card for them at the moment.
Is it for sure than Patrick Chan will not skate twice in the team event? I think Canada still has the edge with Chan, Virtue and Moir, ttwo strong pairs teams and pretty good lady.
So... in this baseline scenario, Russia comes out 5 ahead of the US, and Canada comes out 4. I think that would severely damage US chances. Now... if the US pairs can beat some of the teams ahead, that prevents a catastrophic outcome... and maybe P/T beat the Canadians to further limit the bleeding... I think it is fascinating to play out all the different possibilities.
I see what you mean, but shouldn't "Team" event suggest that it's the team's overall performance that should decide in the end? In Ski jumping, the team event is decided by adding each team member's points. Same with a relay, be it in Biathlon or Swimming: they don't do 4 separate races with a point system, but it's the added time of all the team that counts.
What I mean is that the fear of "bombing" a competition should be similar to what it is in the individual event: you're far off the lead if you bomb.
Concrete numerical example for the Mathman:
Team A: 90+70+70+70 points after SP = 300 points
Team B: 91+71+71+40 = 273 points
I'd like Team A to be in the lead over Team B. With the points system as it is, team B is far ahead, if the category where Team B got only 40 points had some other teams score more than 70.
I don't think Hanyu winning two medals would be a huge surprise.
Exactly. US has to limit the damage here.
Here's how the pairs could play out:
Russia - 10 pts
Canada - 9 pts
China - 8 pts
Italy - 7 pts
France - 6 pts
US - 5 pts
So... in this baseline scenario, Russia comes out 5 ahead of the US, and Canada comes out 4. I think that would severely damage US chances. Now... if the US pairs can beat some of the teams ahead, that prevents a catastrophic outcome... and maybe P/T beat the Canadians to further limit the bleeding... I think it is fascinating to play out all the different possibilities.
I think he would be lucky if he gets one - the only wins he ever had was a Gold at NHK in 2012 and the GPF in 2013, excluding Senior B which are not very relevant, never won a single ISU Championship, losing to Kevin Reynolds at 4CC. Aside from the highly questionable scoring (e.g. here : Asada's 3 X < , + Fall, + SEQ Free Skate was rated as "Phenomenal" based on the 130+ Score ) at the GPF this season, his scores have been quite mediocre where his average PCS is about 80. Furthermore, he pretty much fell or botched every single 4S attempt in competition. When Abbott won GPF, he got no where in the World Championship that season even though he was promptly crowned as the U.S. Champion. He is still a favorite to win a medal of some color though realistically, it's far from a sure bet.