2014 Olympics Ladies Free Skate

[jewel]

Yu-na

Still can´t believe the judges gave the gold to Sotnikova, what a travesty

 

[rollerblade]

Maybe I'll reconsider. I tried to get into posting during this quad but couldn't because of the constant crashing.

Waaaaaaait a minute. I hardly pay attention to usernames, but is this real??

 

[sk8in]

Because Asada had no triple lutz and no 3/3. Made a mistake, and her quality on some of her jumps is not great.

On the other hand. Sotnikova is an incredible jumper. In her own freaking right and is a better spinner then Kim. Also the new rules which said no Yu-na can't do three double axels, hurt her. Sotnikova was rewarded for having all 5 triples.

And I think Kim not having a 3loop was always a deficiency.

Sotnikova is not a quality jumper. All she has is power. Gracie, Kim, Costner, and even Polina Edmunds have greater jumping technique.

 

[Nater]

""It's sad that I just presumed Sotnikova was going to get a boost (in points) because this was in Russia," former U.S. Olympic figure skating coach Audrey Weisiger said in a phone interview. "Isn't it sad that I automatically thought that? Not one person in skating I've talked to said that's the way it should have gone."

"I was surprised with the result," Joseph Inman, a top international judge who was on the women's panel at the 2002 Olympics, said in a telephone interview."

YUP. We automatically assumed, too. RUSSIAN STYLE. To be honest, Russian people have showed such poor sportsmanship during this entire Olympics game that I've lost so much respect for them. Not just figure skating, but the way that the games were so poorly set up (and them even messing up the opening ceremony...), and how there were so many injuries occurring, I now have a really negative view of them. I think Olympics is not just about winning gold medals, but it is also about fair competition and showing sportsmanship. None of them have been courteous or genuine in any way. I will only remember Putin's arrogant face and Russian people screaming RUSSIA RUSSIA and jeering at other non-Russian athletes. Pathetic and very embarrassing.

No offense, but the Russians could have said the same in 2002, and if we want to be honest did Michelle Kwan really deserve to defeat Slutskaya's technical clinic in that SP, especially with judges giving her scores as low as 5.6 for technical merit?

You people were accusing the US of colluding with Russian for Team and Dance Gold Medals and now you're quoting Joe Inman who says he doesn't care if a Lutz is a Flutz or not among other idiotic things and using it as proof of cheating? Give me a break, please.

 

[imisscohen]

I'm not done with Figure Skating. All that talk is just a knee jerker's fantasy. In the end the podium girls rightfully won medals. I just disagree with placements 1-10.

I'd probably go something like this:

1. Caro
2. Adelina
3. Yuna (I've cooled down since the competition ended.)
4. Gracie
5. Mao
6. Ashley
7. Yulia
8. Akiko
9. Polina
10. Mae Berenice

 

[jaylee]

It was nice to see Carolina be the bigger person at the end and go to Adelina and congratulate her on her win backstage. Carolina is loved by all in the skating world, but apparently not by Russians and certainly no by certain judges. On the other hand, it was sad to see Yu Na be a terrible sportswoman and not hug or kiss Carolina on her way to the podium- you could see Carolina’s disappointment. Carolina is and will always be my favorite athlete of all time.

Um, are you not aware of how the podium is set up? The skaters went to the back of the podium and climbed on to their level from there. There was no way for Yu-Na to hug or kiss Carolina because she had to get on the podium on the OPPOSITE SIDE from Carolina, and when she was skating there,Carolina's back is facing her. Awkward set up.

When the skaters get on the podium from the front, as is traditional, they give each other a hug or a kiss (the ladies do anyway).

The same thing happened in the men's--Patrick Chan and Denis Ten didn't have a chance to acknowledge each other, since they were on OPPOSITE SIDES of the podium, and they had to get on the podium from the back. Nobody accused Patrick of poor sportsmanship.

Lord. Yu-Na shook hands with Adelina while on the podium.

 

[CORRUPTION]

This is really bad for the sport overall. The IOC has turned figure skating into a gong show. No one can take a sport seriously with this kind of corrupt judging.

 

[Meoima]

By you saying that Adelina had the best performance because it was "really exciting" just shows the extent to such an UNTECHNICAL judgment if based on that criteria.
And please, ballet itself requires technique.

It was exciting because all of her jumps. I like that, and she's a good spiner. And yes, ballet requires tecnique but people go to the theater to see it as an art form, while figure skating is counted as a sport. Of course artistry is important but it is called a sport for a reason. Anyway, it's just my taste is different from you. Nothing serious.

 

[Becki]

Yes Mao is going to Worlds :yes:

Okay, now i am a happy camper. Mao can end her career on a super high note!

 

[ucrgirl]

I think Adelina was overscored. I don't dislike her, but I don't feel like the competition was judged fairly. I would have given gold to Carolina. Not sure if Adelina would have gotten Silver or Bronze. Yuna had great jumps, but it was like she didn't try. She has the ability to do MUCH better programs. I felt like Yuna attempted to win based on reputation points.

 

[on_the_horizon]

Yuna wasn't robbed. She lost mostly on TES points. Had she done a triple loop (which would have enabled her to do 2A-3T, another money jump combo for her during 2007-2010 quad) and the biellman spin (Lv4 layback), she'd have won in spite of the many roadblocks she encountered here in Sochi. I'm sad for her, but frankly this sport has moved on and evolved since Vancouver and she should have caught the trend and followed it.

Her federation was pretty stupid, too. They should have given her rest from competitions during the 2010-2012 seasons. She could have used that break wisely by working on her deficiencies (extensions, triple loop, more spin variations, etc) and then make a comeback for 2012-2013 season full-time. Doing so would have enabled her to create programs that catered to judges' preference and she also could have worked with other choreographers who would have given her a fresh look.

You cannot deny that team Yuna had a few miscalculations on the projection of how Sochi games were going to unfold, and she also had virtually no political clouts going into the event with Korean coaches. If I were her, I'd have hired foreign coaching team like in Vancouver.

In the end, she just made the comeback decision too late which resulted in the late preparation and not enough time to work on her needs. She is still a champion from 4 yrs ago and made impressive and valiant efforts to defend the title, but I do think she needed more than what she came with to Sochi.

 

[Amer]

I have yet to watch any of the performances and planned to do so on prime time TV.
Now I doubt that I will do so. Very sad to see an Olympics end on what could be a scandal.
I had to stop reading everyone's comments as I don't want to get all wrapped up in everyone's negativity.
Can only hope that going forward people on this board won't continue to have an anti-Russia attitude.
It's very childish and uncalled for. Remember it's not the skaters who do the scoring so please be considerate.
Just very sad on what should have been an evening to look forward to. Reconsidering why I even joined this board.

 

[Ophelia]

Yuna wasn't robbed. She lost mostly on TES points. Had she done a triple loop (which would have enabled her to do 2A-3T, another money jump combo for her during 2007-2010 quad) and the biellman spin (Lv4 layback), she'd have won in spite of the many roadblocks she encountered here in Sochi. I'm sad for her, but frankly this sport has moved on and evolved since Vancouver and she should have caught the trend and followed it.

Her federation was pretty stupid, too. They should have given her rest from competitions during the 2010-2012 seasons. She could have used that break wisely by working on her deficiencies (extensions, triple loop, more spin variations, etc) and then make a comeback for 2011-2012 season full-time. Doing so would have enabled her to create programs that catered to judges' preference and she also could have worked with other choreographers who would have given her a fresh look.

You cannot deny that team Yuna had a few miscalculations on the projection of how Sochi games were going to unfold, and she also had virtually no political clouts going into the event with Korean coaches. If I were her, I'd have hired foreign coaching team like in Vancouver.

In the end, she just made the comeback decision too late which resulted in the late preparation and not enough time to work on her needs. She is still a champion from 4 yrs ago and made impressive and valiant efforts to defend the title, but I do think she needed more than what she came with to Sochi.

She doesn't do loop and Biellman due to back issues...

 

[Nater]

I am literally done with figure skating. Yes Adelina won technically but Yuna should've been head and shoulders above her on the PCS but she wasn't. If you try to argue that Adelina had better skating skills, transitions, choreography, interpretation, and performance & execution I don't even know what to say. The scores were so inflated, because according to her score, she had the best performance of any lady this quad. And there is no sensible argument you could make for that. She did not have the best performance of any lady this quad. This score also says that this performance was around the level of Yuna's Gershwin performance in Vancouver I sure hope this kind of overscoring isn't going to start happening everywhere. I'm not trying to take away from Adelina's performance. She was good, but I don't believe she was the best and I don't believe that score reflected her performance.

Adelina certainly had better transitions, choreography, interpretation and perf/exec than Yuna because all of that was almost absent form Yuna's programs. They were phoned in and everyone on Twitter was saying the same thing as she was skating.

And her jumps were good, but she didn't have enough TES-wise to make up for being behind one triple and having spins so bad compared to Sotnikova. Additionally, I think most people on this board are simply blown away, because I don't think they expected Sotnikova to actually skate a clean FS. It's like people started celebrating on this board ahead of time when Lipnitskaya put herself 9 points behind the top 3. Hell, some were even saying that Sotnikova would bomb and open the door for Gracie Gold to move up to third.

 

[jcykim]

Yuna Kim just got robbed wow Adelina was ranked as low as 16 over the past year and now they say that a clean performance is worthy of 149? The judges were so blatantly giving her points so Russia could get gold its a real shame. Ive always said that Yuna Kim's greatest weakness is her nationality coming from South Korea where we had no one in figure skating and zero interest in it before Yuna this has worked against Yuna her entire career. Imagine if her nationality was one of the traditional figure skating power countries........

 

[Blades of Passion]

Okay, I watched the performances again on high-quality recordings, and now I'm actually upset because Sotnikova's 3Toe in combo at the start was most definitely underrotated but she didn't get called on it.

 

[sk8in]

It was exciting because all of her jumps. I like that, and she's a good spiner. And yes, ballet requires tecnique but people go to the theater to see it as an art form, while figure skating is counted as a sport. Of course artistry is important but it is called a sport for a reason. Anyway, it's just my taste is different from you. Nothing serious.

It was exciting because she was on her home turf, and was a dark horse competitor. Her score was over 5 points ahead of Yuna. Sorry, but that is just obscene.

 

[figurejennah]

No offense, but the Russians could have said the same in 2002, and if we want to be honest did Michelle Kwan really deserve to defeat Slutskaya's technical clinic in that SP, especially with judges giving her scores as low as 5.6 for technical merit?

You people were accusing the US of colluding with Russian for Team and Dance Gold Medals and now you're quoting Joe Inman who says he doesn't care if a Lutz is a Flutz or not among other idiotic things and using it as proof of cheating? Give me a break, please.

Do you disagree with me about the Russians jeering at other athletes making mistakes and shouting out Russia Russia the entire time and showing no courtesy or respect? So are you saying that because Russians don't think that Michelle Kwan deserved to beat Slutskaya, now they can turn around do whatever they want to do to rob that gold medal from one of the greatest figure skaters of all time? (I am quoting Scott Hamilton, Curt Browning, etc)

It was a clear robbery. You can't deny that Adelina's scores were all of sudden raised over 50 points in less than 2 months. She didn't even make it to the podium in 2013 worlds where Yuna won the gold, and all of sudden she beat a perfectly clean Yuna with an almost world record breaking score? Yes, you give me a break, too. This Sochi Olympics is pathetic and I hope you guys live happily ever after with your lovely Putin.

 

[Meoima]

Adelina got minus GOE for her small error on that combination. It was a slight error that shouldn't affect PCS.

Do I think that Adelina maybe got overscored on PCS yes. But do I think she did a lot more technically than Kostner and Yu-na did. Yes.

I am on the same boat with you.

 

[Mrs. P]

Okay, now i am a happy camper. Mao can end her career on a super high note!

Me too! Here's hoping she can snag another WC!


A friendly reminder prompted by these tweets from Ryan Bradley:

RyanSBradley 2:26pm via Twitter for iPhone
I just saw Adelina's Facebook wall and I am disgusted. She is a little girl who went out and did her job. Don't put this mess on her!

RyanSBradley 2:36pm via Twitter for iPhone
Not liking the results is one thing, but saying these things to a teenager is unreal. My issue is with the crap behind all this, not her

I really, really, hope that we all show some compassion (and congrats!) to Adelina. She did her best. She was not the one who gave out the scores. And remember she's only 17.