You should probably check the protocols of the short program, which yuki was directing you towards. And the main issue that most of the commentators are bringing up is not BV, but massive GOE and PCS increases.
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You should probably check the protocols of the short program, which yuki was directing you towards. And the main issue that most of the commentators are bringing up is not BV, but massive GOE and PCS increases.
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That still doesn't justify the huge bonus scores she got on her flutz and underrotation in both SP and LP, and huge overblown PCS scores in both SP and LP. LOL
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I know this is "propagand" but please sign this petition
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It is insulting to a Tech Specialist...like I said, it's more interesting to do a play by play analysis on this board, than to hear repeated over and over "Yuna is a true champion". Lipnitskaia isn't in the same league as Li and Polina Edmunds, sorry, she won European Champion, silver and gold for several Grand Prix this year, silver for GPF, beat Kostner when they competed together. No, not in the same league, not even close.
Lipnitskaia skated her worst this Olympics, as did Mao in her SP. However, both have podiumed at every international event this past year at the senior level. Can't say that for Li or Polina.
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LOL. Carolina was not clean in European. Can't compare that to her Olympics performance. LOL.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFdI8RCSWyo&feature=player_embedded
watch this!
oh, i thought this was not posted... anyways, that's rude... not an olympic gold medalist should be
watch this!
oh, i thought this was not posted... anyways, that's rude... not an olympic gold medalist should be
I did as well as 7 other non-Koreans around me. At a minimum we don't want this kind of BS repeated. Russia (or any other country) + 20 vs everyone else. Gracie's score is also suspect. She received 136.90 with a fall. I can't imagine what Yuna's score would have been had she fallen. Mao receiving lower PCS than Yulia is simply incomprehensible. This judging is a travesty.
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I'm not whining, Kim ubers are, all over the board.
I'm merely stating amusing facts, that professional tech specialists are made out to be "reporter who doesn't know figure skating", BV are re-engineered, etc. by Kim ubers.
How would you explain what plenty of esteemed figure skating commentators and previous greats have said? Are you saying that people like Robin Cousins and Katarina Witt, who have won Olympic gold medals and been involved in this sport for years, "don't know figure skating"? I can accept that I have limited technical expertise, but I have a hard time believing that all the commentators are biased Kim ubers or have a vendetta against Russians. Certainly the BBC ones have been very fair throughout this competition IMO.
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She is very very rude. Her head is up in the clouds.
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I can't check all the previous posts.
I apologize myself if it was posted already.
INTERVIEW TRANSLATION AT THE KOREA HOUSE : YUNA KIM (after FP)
Yuna Kim, winner of the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympic silver medal, seems calm ad-mist the chaos going around judging scandal. During the press conference at the Korea House in Sochi, Yuna said " I have no regrets. I just think it's the end because well it's the end."
Yuna said, " Before there were many competitions where there were alot of talks about overscoring; every time people around me seemed more upset than I was. I guess because the Olympics is such a big event that the talks have grown bigger, but I personally have no regrets. I already knew that the scores were going to be low; I sensed the vibe since short program so, I didn't expect a good score for free either. I just waited for the scores because like the saying goes, if you have high expectations you'll also be left with bigger disappointment. I didn't come here with just the thought of winning gold so I felt pretty neutral."
" Because the hotel was in bad condition I went to the athletes house so I was able to talk to my mom only through text. My mother said there are a lot of talks about the scoring but to not get too heated up about it; she said let's just enjoy the moments with no regrets. She also said about winning silver medal to just think ' they gave the gold to the person who yearned/desperate for it more.'"
Question: do you think you lacked in comparision?
- i didn't watch the other skaters' performances yet. There wouldn't be any changes to the results even if I said they were or they weren't better. i have no regrets. I just think it's the end because it is."
I apologize myself if it was posted already.
INTERVIEW TRANSLATION AT THE KOREA HOUSE : YUNA KIM (after FP)
Yuna Kim, winner of the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympic silver medal, seems calm ad-mist the chaos going around judging scandal. During the press conference at the Korea House in Sochi, Yuna said " I have no regrets. I just think it's the end because well it's the end."
Yuna said, " Before there were many competitions where there were alot of talks about overscoring; every time people around me seemed more upset than I was. I guess because the Olympics is such a big event that the talks have grown bigger, but I personally have no regrets. I already knew that the scores were going to be low; I sensed the vibe since short program so, I didn't expect a good score for free either. I just waited for the scores because like the saying goes, if you have high expectations you'll also be left with bigger disappointment. I didn't come here with just the thought of winning gold so I felt pretty neutral."
" Because the hotel was in bad condition I went to the athletes house so I was able to talk to my mom only through text. My mother said there are a lot of talks about the scoring but to not get too heated up about it; she said let's just enjoy the moments with no regrets. She also said about winning silver medal to just think ' they gave the gold to the person who yearned/desperate for it more.'"
Question: do you think you lacked in comparision?
- i didn't watch the other skaters' performances yet. There wouldn't be any changes to the results even if I said they were or they weren't better. i have no regrets. I just think it's the end because it is."
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I am sorry but I have to dissent. I have no intent of insulting anybody here. do you know that Euro is a brooding ground of this mess? this season Grand Prix is in fact an entire mess because of the ISU's judges' insane GOE abuse. even if you are judge or tech, your prestige itself becomes an insult if you allow yourself influenced by something other than figure skating.
I will put it this way. Can't you tell me why 6th -12th skaters receive the kind of PCS or second group and the difference from Adelina? Some of them also skated as clean as any body in the leading group. there is answer there why Adelina cannot be subject to the top PCS or high GOE. Before that, actually if you are of trained eye, you can tell the difference.
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Checked protocols, SP Kim has +1 BV, so how does this change FS results?
Two judges in the FS:
One of the judge's husband is the head of the Russian Federation! Another was a Ukraine judge once suspended for fixing the Nagano Olympics.
Now look at these scores from Judge 7 and 2 for Adelina:
Judge 7:
GOE:
3
3
3
3
3
-1 (the combo jump where she stepped out)
3
3
3
2
3
PCS:
9.5
9.5
9.75
9.75
9.75
Judge 2:
GOE:
2
3
3
3
3
-1
2
3
2
3
3
3
PCS:
9.5
9.25
9.75
9.75
9.75
Common now. These scores says Adelina's FS was best ever. Clear over scores if I ever saw one. Look at the average PCS and number of +3 GOEs. People who says there is no controversy is out of their mind. These two judges most likely underscored Yuna and Caro also. How can this be fair?
One of the judge's husband is the head of the Russian Federation! Another was a Ukraine judge once suspended for fixing the Nagano Olympics.
Now look at these scores from Judge 7 and 2 for Adelina:
Judge 7:
GOE:
3
3
3
3
3
-1 (the combo jump where she stepped out)
3
3
3
2
3
PCS:
9.5
9.5
9.75
9.75
9.75
Judge 2:
GOE:
2
3
3
3
3
-1
2
3
2
3
3
3
PCS:
9.5
9.25
9.75
9.75
9.75
Common now. These scores says Adelina's FS was best ever. Clear over scores if I ever saw one. Look at the average PCS and number of +3 GOEs. People who says there is no controversy is out of their mind. These two judges most likely underscored Yuna and Caro also. How can this be fair?
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Like I said, if Sotnikova's jumps or Lipnitskaia's jumps were bad, show the evidence. Lipnitskaia and Sotnikova have podiumed many, many times at senior level, unlike Polina or Li. So, no, again, not in the same league.
No, many fell from 6th to 12th, except for Mao, and a couple of others.
So far, comments that are made are really subjective, so I find it unconvincing. If I had missed lots of flaws in Sotnikova's skate, then I'd be glad to be shown exactly. So far, I don't find her looking like a "boy in skirt", "skating unripe" or like a "car on unpaved road", I find a very athletic skate that is surprisingly lyrical and modern. Her extension/flexibility was good considering her strength, energy and power. Her moves were precise and defined. She hit the notes at the right time, so musicality is great. Really like the choreography, strings and violins, I get it.
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Oh lord, give it a rest, (if you are a true YuNa fan)
The time for reaction is done. It's now time for reflection. Let me begin; the ladies event was magnificent and one of the greatest ever and YuNa was front and center. Be happy for her...- Joined
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KSyviCkOOI
Yuna Kim' figure skating journey + interview (post sochi)
Yuna Kim' figure skating journey + interview (post sochi)
