2014 Olympics Ladies Free Skate
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Kim ubers will repeat over and over the same grist, it's quite pointless because there is no proper discourse. Sure BV in total was +3 points for Sotnikova, but her total over Kim was +5 points, with a more elements packed second half. Of course one article doesn't show everything, BUT it did offer a close scrutiny why Sotnikova's performance was better and deserved SLIGHTLY higher GOE, there was much more power, height, etc., more energy in S's performance over all, even though her music is slow, I can't see how that can be denied.
As for Kim's interview, if the translation is right, then it's not gracious of her to suggest that she "expected low scores", i.e. she expected a predetermined outcome for her FS. This implies that she thinks the competition is rigged.
As for Kim's interview, if the translation is right, then it's not gracious of her to suggest that she "expected low scores", i.e. she expected a predetermined outcome for her FS. This implies that she thinks the competition is rigged.
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I totally agree, Mao pcs were shocking, the entire judging was shocking !!! As you said...a travesty !!!
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What about all the attack videos of Sotnikova now all over the internet?
Is that also rude?
It's like deja vu all over again.
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I agree on every point and I also had the feeling that Yu-Na knew about it, the way she reacted after seeing that her sp scores were too low. She is a very smart woman and knows how corrupt judges are but she showed a true sportmanship and reacted like a Queen until the end!!!!
But I think her words could change something, to not let this happen over and over again
But I think her words could change something, to not let this happen over and over again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La_NnvWiUnc
At least we can watch this gala program for the last time.
Wonder if Sochi deserves this beautiful skater though.
At least we can watch this gala program for the last time.
Wonder if Sochi deserves this beautiful skater though.
No the real issue is how Adelina got to such a point total. Was it fairly earned? Two judges in question seemed to clearly over score Adelina in both PCS and GOE. How bout you specifically go into the protocol and defend judge 7 and 2's scores. Good luck.
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My point is try to learn to compare skaters regardless of jump success. You have got to know that difference and can tell the difference in order to judge skaters.
BTW Jump is composed of intro, take-off, rotation, air position, landing and landing flow. while doing all these in acceptable manner, that is without irksome glitz, you are expected to execute it evoking a sense of entirety without disruption. And if you did, you shall be ratified, but not with GOE. That is only prerequisite. With optimal speed and continuity, you land it, but that does not qualify you for excellence. In addition to this you demonstrate and impress the judges with speed or height or others, you then may be entitled to 1. But if you are not even adequate enough to satisfy the basic elements or even glaringly flawed, your execution cannot be subject to GOE at all. Figure is aesthetic sport. But judges may be lenient to some elements depending on the field, but with Kim, you cannot, shall not mass produce GOE, especially while Kim's pristine jump is marked average 2.
More importantly, upper body movement is key to evaluate skaters. You can tell by it how long they skated and how skillful they are. And the degree of bodily freedom on ice is the critical factor that assesses a skater. My another favorite Gracie: she improves a lot but if you see her skating it shows she skated relatively late compared to other skaters. Adelina is the best skater in Russia, with potential to grow more, and good persona on ice and good edge, and she is my favorite Russian skater for that matter. But Like Murakami, she is about that although Murakami is a bit rougher than Adelina, but still far from the top skaters. their level of skating does not change in a short amount of time.
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I thought it supposed to be Adelina the one being rude?! walking way when others are talking...
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I definitely agree with you on this. Please stop hurting Adelina with that video. It's totally irrelevant, and remember Adelina is also a victim of this mess. She did her job and her best. As members of figure community we ought to respect her and protect her.What about all the attack videos of Sotnikova now all over the internet?
Is that also rude?
It's like deja vu all over again.
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I know but I can't get over it, this is too unfair !
Ditto. All the rude comments against Adelina are not doing Yuna/Caro/Mao any favours.
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It's just so fishy. How did two russians escape edge call on their flutz???
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I think it's going to be emotional... and doing "imagine" in sochi is a good choice
Or how about the video is shown out of context. Easily clipped. Its possible Sotnikova was called away too... Seriously.:disapp: Everyone even those who disagree with the results say Sotnikova is a sweet girl. She has talked about how skating is her job, because she has a sick sister, who she's trying to support. This is a big huge deal for Sotnikova and her family.
Your as bad as the give Plushenko a platinum medal.
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That's the thing. The whole competition is split into two segments short and long. Yuna had the advantage in the SP and skated flawlessly and people are arguing that Adelina had a major PCS boost to keep her close for the FS. It's not for sure whether it's biased judging but it sure feels like it from that jump in PCS scores from what we've seen her put out in the past.
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Sotnikova had 7 triples, 4 in combinations, more combos in second half for 10% more, Kim has 6 triples, 3 in combinations, Sotnikova had quite interesting and difficult entries and exits from the jumps as well. Her spins positions were level 4, Kim's level 3, with little flexibility. How is this TES not fairly won? So she won with TES, and with such an outstanding and difficult skate, skated with passion, energy, expression, I don't wonder her PCS went up. I was always impressed with her Carmen, she skated her FS not as well in other competitions, but she really nailed the difficult elements this time, except for one combo jump. To me, Mao's Rachmaninoff is beautiful, traditional and complex, Sotnikova's FS is creative, original, complex, Kim's is beautiful, traditional, but lacks complexity or originality. Perhaps if she had a better program she would win, as such, this tech layout, the choreography, transitions, etc. already place her at a disadvantage versus Mao and Sotnikova. She didn't bring her A game to the FS, that definitely didn't help. Mao did, Sotnikova did.
