Perhaps the title is confusing - maybe the mods could change it to something like "Analysing Sochi Ladies' Step Sequences/TES"?
This way it wouldn't be about one skater and people mightn't be so eager to cry hate...
There is no good analysis here at all because the rules are misinterpreted soley so that sotnikovas level 4 becomes a level 3. The whole thread is a lie based on hatred of sotnikova.
It is about hatred of sotnikova! Either prove a judge was corrupt or stop posting all these hate Adelina threads!
Perhaps the title is confusing - maybe the mods could change it to something like "Analysing Sochi Ladies' Step Sequences/TES"?
This way it wouldn't be about one skater and people mightn't be so eager to cry hate...
If it is misinterpretation, please explain how BoP is wrong. I don't hate Adelina. Yes, she comes off as annoying and brash at times, but many young athletes are (and there are far many who are worse). These characteristics are not worthy of hate. I wasn't rooting for her, but I wasn't rooting for anybody who had a legitimate shot at the podium either, so I am clearly unbiased.
I can understand your frustration as an Adelina partisan. Still, people are offended when they are censured by others who are biased for a particular result. There is a smoking gun here. Whether the smoke was caused by it firing or by a smoker holding the gun is unclear. The ISU (and the IOC for that matter) have some accountability the skating community to address these questions. The more people tell us to shut up, the more we want to talk about it.
But you need to factor in Kim's underrotated 3lz, which was given full credit & positive GOE.
Indeed. If there is a flaw in BoP's analysis, just point it out.If it is misinterpretation, please explain how BoP is wrong.
I thought the rule meant that you had to do 5 different turns clockwise and 5 different turns counterclockwise, not that it had to be the same 5. Not saying I'm necessarily right but that was just my understanding.
What's the smoking gun? Prove anything your saying? Your extreme hatred of sotnikova "she's annoying" is riduclous!
I will get back to this thread later but I want to thank Blade of Passion for taking on this difficult task. This is the type of analysis (along with the stickied one in Figure Skating Reference forum) I was looking forward to. Big kudos to Blades of Passion and I hope s/he will not be discouraged by the nonsensical twist some try to make on this fine effort.
The issue is that the rules of step sequences are being misinterpreted. It has already been pointed out why on the first page.
Ok... Would you be happy with "Analysing Sochi Ladies' TES, helpful advice and constructive criticism of all analyses welcome - let's help each other to understand COP)"?
Why would I "hate" a 17 year old girl i've never met? Your comment is ridiculous. She does come off as brash. She was annoying when she made it impossible for Carolina and Yuna to skate their victory lap, constantly causing log jams that almost caused collisions. it's like a slow trot on a HR to piss a pitcher off (except more dangerous because of a possible injury).
Still, that is nothing to "hate" another human being for.
The "smoking gun" are all of the inconsistencies in scoring, the final margin of victory, the appearance of impropriety in the officiating panels etc. Put this together and you get a lot of people screaming Yuna and Carolina got robbed. Did they? I'm not 100% sure, but I know that when I see smoke, I know it's worth checking to see if there is a fire.
If it is misinterpretation, please explain how BoP is wrong. I don't hate Adelina. ... ... I wasn't rooting for her, but I wasn't rooting for anybody who had a legitimate shot at the podium either, so I am clearly unbiased.
... Still, people are offended when they are censured by others who are biased for a particular result. ... ...The ISU (and the IOC for that matter) have some accountability to the skating community to address these questions about the legitimacy of the judging (especially considering the checkered past of judging in this sport). The more people tell us to shut up, the more we want to talk about it.
BoP can be opinionated, but he/she has proved to be a wonderful analyst of moves and layouts, and this evaluation forms a good take-off point for a discussion. Look, Adelina won the gold medal. No one from GS has the power to get it taken away. So what's the harm in examining the ladies' skating programs in detail, as we've done in many past competitions, including the Nagano Olympics and the Battle of the Brians in 1988?
I♥Yuna;884715 said:Didn't Yuna say she lost a level in the short program step sequence? Maybe we should compare the Olympic sp stepsequence w/another competition where she got it right, to see if she missed the right number of turns. If she did, then that might settle the question.