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Didn't she go for a 3lutz/3toe in Lillehammer and go down on the second jump? Or maybe it was just a hand down.Vash01 said:Chen Lu did not fall in either of her medal winning Olympic performances.
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Didn't she go for a 3lutz/3toe in Lillehammer and go down on the second jump? Or maybe it was just a hand down.Vash01 said:Chen Lu did not fall in either of her medal winning Olympic performances.
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Ogre Mage said:Didn't she go for a 3lutz/3toe in Lillehammer and go down on the second jump? Or maybe it was just a hand down.
Vash01 said:Chen Lu did not fall in either of her medal winning Olympic performances.
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*~RussianBleux~* said:While I definitely feel that Sasha's silver medal was well deserved even with the falls, I feel that Fumie should have beaten Irina and won the bronze medal. Fumie's program was lacking in any type of transitions and choreography, and her spins were ok, however she was clean. After Irina's fall she basically let the whole thing go. ANy choreography that she did have went down the drain and the remainder of the program was just.....blah. That result probably could have gone either way, however I would have liked to see Fumie win the bronze medal she slightly deserved.
FreeKatie said:I must be thinking of her short programs, I remember her crashing into the boards at some point in one of her olympic performances
FreeKatie said:Bereshnaya & Shikeralize - 1998 Nagano fell and got silver
Tonichelle said:Actually I was asking if it counted in this thread as I think we're really talking more about the LP
and according to Sandra Besic, it didn't count as a fall that night in SLC
millie said:If all these skaters have had falls in their Olympic programs and got medals, why is it such a big deal with the media that Sasha got a silver medal with her fall. You would think that she has been the only one to ever fall and get a medal. Go figure!!
Yes, Jamie and David did have a fall in their SP and that counts as a fall.
orchid said:Excuse me, Sasha fell twice, in one program and back to back,. and that is what makes the question poiniant.
Mafke said:Similarly, IIRC Robin Cousins fell during his SP in 1980 olys. But it wasn't during a required element I think so wasn't cause for a deduction.
antmanb said:Was that at the Olympics - i thought that happened at europeans? Maybe it happened at both?
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Mafke said:I don't think US tv covered Europeans then especially in prime time. I have a clear memory during those olympics though of Dick Button explaining why the fall shouldn't hurt him because it wasn't because he was trying to do something difficult or words to that effect. I don't remember seeing Cousins SP live (I was working and attending classes at nights then and with no vcr's I missed big parts of the competition.
SusanBeth said:According to the way the ISU defines a fall, Sasha fell once. The way other people define a fall is not pertinent to the judging.
What about Yamaguchi?. She only put her hand down.SusanBeth said:According to the way the ISU defines a fall, Sasha fell once. The way other people define a fall is not pertinent to the judging.
SusanBeth said:I am saying that it doesn't matter if you think it's a fall. It's doesn't matter what I think constitutes a fall. There are rules in place defining a fall. The referee is obliged to go by the official definition when determining whether a fall has occurred. Therefore, as far as the judging is concerned, Sasha fell once.
I hope that was clear enough for you to understand.
dancindiva03 said:I don't exactly recall the wording of the new definition of a fall, but whatever it is, it needs to be re-worked. Because there is NO WAY that Sasha's second fall should not have been counted as a fall. I mean, you can't see that mistake and say that she "landed" the jump, and if you didn't land a jump, then you fell. It wasn't a mere step-out or turn-out.