Help sought for 1991 WC Ladies SP order and skater ID

[labgoat]

Anyone interested in identifying some skaters from small clues so I can refine the skate order for 1991 WC Ladies SP in Dortmund? I do not have enough information/nor videos to place everyone, but maybe I can get the order a bit more correct. Any help would be appreciated, perhaps someone who watched it live can remember something. Any archivists out there?
Here are my findings. Also link to the entire event in the rewatch.

In order of skate:	Clues	Skaters not yet in order:
1 Milena Marinovich BUL - FNR	Commentary says she was only 1 missed during Andrade	In order of finish:
2 Marta Andrade ESP- FNR		8 Marina Kielmann GER from 91 EC
3 Tonya Harding USA | v2 | v3	Mentions skating early	10 Julia Vorobieva URS from 91 EC
4 Lenka Kulovaná TCH	On ice as Harding departs after SP	11 Junko Yaginuma JPN 90-91 NHK
5		12 Chen Lu CHN 91 JRWC
6 Cathrin Degler GER - FNR	Final skater, warms up at end of her skate	13 Simone Lang GER 89 SA
		14 Mari Asanuma JPN 92 JNats
7 Diana Marcos MEX - FNR	Part of a 3-skater block	16 Anisette Torp-Lind DEN 90 WC
8 Marion Krijgsman NED -FNR	Seen on ice as Diana exits	19 Natalia Gorbenko URS
9 Zuzanna Szwed POL	Seen on ice after Marion	20 Lily Lyoonjung Lee ROK
10 Simone Lang GER	hot pink bodice with multicolored skirt and single sleeve, big hair
11	saturated blue dress	Free skating not reached (FNR)
12		23 Tamara Téglássy HUN -FNR 90 WC
		24 Beatrice Gelmini ITA - FNR 90 WC
13 Lisa Sargeant CAN	CBC coverage after Harding – also next two clues	25 Helene Persson SWE - FNR 90 WC
14 Patricia Neske GER	Blonde skater in blue seen on warmup with Sargeant	27 Sabrina Tschudi SUI - FNR
15	Big jump girl in red/black on warmup with Sargeant	28 Željka Čižmešija YUG - FNR 90 WC
16		29 Mila Kajas FIN - FNR
17		34 Isabelle Balhan BEL - FNR
18 Nancy Kerrigan USA | v2 | v3	Seen on warmup, last skater of the group	35 Christine Czerni AUT - FNR
		36 Rosanna Blong NZL - FNR
19 Laetitia Hubert FRA - FNR	Commentary says she skated before Surya & Midori
20 Anita Thorenfeldt NOR – FNR	black dress & tights gold trim / warm-up with Bonaly
21 Surya Bonaly FRA	BBC/CBC/NBC
22 Midori Ito JPN | v2 | v3 | v4	BBC/CBC/NBC
23 Tamara Heggen AUS - FNR	red dress w/gold trim / entering ice after Midori exits
24 Joanne Conway GBR	Seen on warm-up with Bonaly
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31 Josée Chouinard CAN	In final group per CBC
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36 Kristi Yamaguchi USA | v2	Commentary says she is skater 36
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[labgoat]

The girls on the left are flower girls. ID has been made as Lenka Kulovana TCH
Apparently she changed dresses since 91 EC where she wore red.

 

[labgoat]

See the girl in the air! Use this link in table to see it live, screen shot was difficult.
No idea who she is other than a big jumper in red/black

 

[labgoat]

Who else was in Surya's flight?
I'm now pretty sure this is Anita Thorenfeldt of Norway

 

[labgoat]

Who skated after Midori? See her entering ice as Midori exits
ID as Tamara Heggen AUS

 

[mrrice]

I do remember them making a big deal about Tonya skating early. She had a great SP. If she had done her Skate America LP and Worlds SP, she would have been the world champion. That's how skating goes.

 

[Minz]

I don't know if this is the right event, but I found this on YouTube

1991 World Figure Skating Championships Ladies Short and Kurt Browning Interview

www.youtube.com

 

[labgoat]

I don't know if this is the right event, but I found this on YouTube

1991 World Figure Skating Championships Ladies Short and Kurt Browning Interview

www.youtube.com

Yes I have that listed in the rewatch and used it and the CBC broadcast for part of what I have done. Unfortunately that doesn't help me with these skaters who were most likely European skaters which are rarely shown in North American broadcasts unless they are in the medal hunt.

The skaters I am looking for are all lovely skaters and I hope videos of them will show up someday - after all I have video of the last place girl so it looks like ESP did show much of the event other than the first girl.

I guess I am hoping some European fan will remember them and be able to let me know who is who.

 

[labgoat]

Also who is this girl in blue on the warmup with Lisa Sargeant?
She is not the same girl as with Tonya as she and Lisa skated in different groups.
She has been ID as Patricia Neske GER

 

[labgoat]

Could Yulia (Julia) Gorbenko be one of these skaters?
Finally found a picture of her - she was the 1986 World Junior Champion.

 

[IanF]

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Who skated after Midori? See her entering ice as Midori exits
Could this be Julia Vorobieva?

The skater in red is Tamara Heggen from Australia.
She skated a piece of music from The Firebird.

 

[IanF]

View attachment 6685
Also who is this girl in blue on the warmup with Lisa Sargeant?
She is not the same girl as with Tonya as she and Lisa skated in different groups.
Could this be Natalia Gorbenko or Simone Lang?

She is Patricia Neske

 

[IanF]

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Looks like Patricia Neske? The girls on the left are flower girls.
I have made an ID now it is Patricia Neske of Germany

The one after Tonya Harding is Lenka Kulovana

 

[labgoat]

The skater in red is Tamara Heggen from Australia.
She skated a piece of music from The Firebird.

Thank you! Neske really had me puzzled since she seemed to be in two places. I thought Lenka wore her hair differently, but I guess I was wrong. I wish I could have found Tamara. I am curious, were you at the event or did you watch it?

 

[Merry]

Cathrin Degler's video shows most of the next warmup group entering the ice behind her starting at 3:10:

5 skaters go past:
-Zuzanna Szwed
-a girl in a hot pink bodice with multi-colored skirt and single sleeve
-Diana Marcos (rainbow costume)
-Marion Krijgsman
-a girl in very saturated blue (probably this is Nancy Kerrigan)

I'm a bit perplexed by the one-sleeve girl. It's certainly not Lisa Sargent or Patricia Neske. Could they possibly have been in a later group?

 

[labgoat]

Cathrin Degler's video shows most of the next warmup group entering the ice behind her starting at 3:10:

5 skaters go past:
-Zuzanna Szwed
-a girl in a hot pink bodice with multi-colored skirt and single sleeve
-Diana Marcos (rainbow costume)
-Marion Krijgsman
-a girl in very saturated blue (probably this is Nancy Kerrigan)

I'm a bit perplexed by the one-sleeve girl. It's certainly not Lisa Sargent or Patricia Neske. Could they possibly have been in a later group?

Thanks for your eagle eyes. I’m gonna have to watch this again. This is why I welcome help. I may have to adjust the groups as needed. Sometimes the groups are not shown in order on the broadcast and this makes it challenging. Most of the skaters you mention are in a later group so I will reassess.

Degler is said to be the last skater of the first group and that the coverage will give us the second. That means the Sargeant group must be third or later group. I wish I had time for this puzzle right now, but i will work on this. Believe it or not it is kinda fun for me.

The girl in blue is definitely not Nancy Kerrigan. Her dress was actually purple - I have seen it in other events.

 

[labgoat]

The one after Tonya Harding is Lenka Kulovana

Interesting that her dress is now blue. She wore red at Europeans.

Lenka Kulovana 1991 Europeans Long Program

1990/1991

www.youtube.com

Edit- silly me not seeing long program in the title.

 

[IanF]

Thank you! Neske really had me puzzled since she seemed to be in two places. I thought Lenka wore her hair differently, but I guess I was wrong. I wish I could have found Tamara. I am curious, were you at the event or did you watch it?

You’re welcome! I’ve watched it live in italian tv in 1991.
I have a VHS and I used to watch it again and again back in the 90s.
I wish i could find it somewhere, the first couple of groups were missing but all the rest was there.

 

[IanF]

Interesting that her dress is now blue. She wore red at Europeans.

Lenka Kulovana 1991 Europeans Long Program

1990/1991

www.youtube.com

The red one was for the free program.
The blue is the same she was wearing in 1992. You can find videos of her short on YouTube from Albertville.

 

[labgoat]

You’re welcome! I’ve watched it live in italian tv in 1991.
I have a VHS and I used to watch it again and again back in the 90s.
I wish i could find it somewhere, the first couple of groups were missing but all the rest was there.

Wow thank you for sharing. As you can see our USA coverage was very limited. I was lucky because I live near the Canadian border and got to see CAN coverage too. Tired me missed that the red dress for for the free.