No rest for Japan's Yuzuru Hanyu
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It's an ambitious program that's interesting and fun to watch. I don't think Yuzu has been so involved in the creative process of any of his other programs like he has in with SEIMEI. From music editing to historical research.
Here is a TV special that covers the various stages of the creation of Seimei along with a fan-translation of the video
http://yuzusorbet.tumblr.com/post/133447470147/the-road-to-completion-of-seimei-partial
Bonus: If you are sightseeing in Japan and want to know the correct way to pray at a shrine, Yuzu gives a picture perfect example.
It really makes me sad that the original step sequence (seen in the video) had to be changed because when he tried it at the Autumn Classic it only got a level 2.
The new step-sequence is not bad and it also matches the music, but the original steps had a minimalistic feel that is much more 'Japanese' in my mind. Using the negative space to accentuate the rhythm is more in line with the style, but COP does not appreciate minimalism.
And, as usual, I can't really sit back and relax when watching Yuzu live, due to his constantly pushing the boundaries in every direction, one never knows how much will actually be successfully skated in competition. But man, it's exciting.
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Here is a TV special that covers the various stages of the creation of Seimei along with a fan-translation of the video
http://yuzusorbet.tumblr.com/post/133447470147/the-road-to-completion-of-seimei-partial
Bonus: If you are sightseeing in Japan and want to know the correct way to pray at a shrine, Yuzu gives a picture perfect example.
It really makes me sad that the original step sequence (seen in the video) had to be changed because when he tried it at the Autumn Classic it only got a level 2.
The new step-sequence is not bad and it also matches the music, but the original steps had a minimalistic feel that is much more 'Japanese' in my mind. Using the negative space to accentuate the rhythm is more in line with the style, but COP does not appreciate minimalism.
And, as usual, I can't really sit back and relax when watching Yuzu live, due to his constantly pushing the boundaries in every direction, one never knows how much will actually be successfully skated in competition. But man, it's exciting.
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I love his FS very much this season. Too bad he had to change the step sequence because of the levels. I'm happy to hear of his research and participation in the creative process with Shae-Lynn. Hope that this signals a departure from overused/warhorse music from now on. He probably did venture out with his Chopin SP last year but his involvement in the shaping of the SEIMEI FS is something new for him. I can't wait to see what he has in store next season.
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Yuzuru's Seimei LP is honestly my favorite program of the season. And given that I wasn't as much into his last 3 LPs, I can't tell you how happy that makes me 
Even if it's not to someones personal taste, I think you can't deny that it's artistically challenging just as much as it is technically, and that the whole concept is something new and different that sticks out from the rest of the field. His drive to go for something original, something only he can do and perform, and how much heart he puts into it is inspiring to see and makes me kind of proud to be his fan. I'm sure he'll give us some lovely performances with this program
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No, no you don't. You don't have to work for your fans, you "have to be" healthy and happy for your fans! Happy, okay?:agree2:
Even if it's not to someones personal taste, I think you can't deny that it's artistically challenging just as much as it is technically, and that the whole concept is something new and different that sticks out from the rest of the field. His drive to go for something original, something only he can do and perform, and how much heart he puts into it is inspiring to see and makes me kind of proud to be his fan. I'm sure he'll give us some lovely performances with this program
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No, no you don't. You don't have to work for your fans, you "have to be" healthy and happy for your fans! Happy, okay?:agree2:
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I wouldn't say it's the most original in its choreography (that goes to Chan) but it is probably the most exciting to watch. I wouldn't really call it inventive, but it's a new side of *Hanyu* that we haven't seen, which is refreshing. It's nice to see a powerful freeskate to music that hasn't been skated to before, with a good crescendo instead of another warhorse.
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fix that lutz!So looking forward to NHK. -And nervous too.
The 4Sal, which everyone thought was a choreographed fall 2 seasons ago has been very good since the end of last season. Landed with +GOE at GPF, WTT, Autumn Classic and Skate Canada.
That's solid progress.
4S was a choreographed fall in 2012-2013 season and in 2013-2014 Olympic season, and it evoked tons of criticism. 4S was finally fixed after COC accident in 2014-2015 season when Yuzu was injured and trained in Japan . in Barcelona I think Yuzu jumped one of his best 4S ever , a monstrous effortless jump :hap93::luv17:
It needs the bacwards crossrolls back...
Otherwise, it's great. The best-choreographed program this season, one that stands out amongst others and suits Hanyu like a glove
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It needs the bacwards crossrolls back...
Like a sequined glove, with frills!
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It needs the bacwards crossrolls back...
sigh! even Shae-Lynn was stoked with that fierce backward crossrolls . Though I as well, glad that the forward crossrolls is still there If you're talking about his SC FS, yes we are....
To me, he appears to be just going through the motions. The program is pretty much a jump routine to me. I respect him for trying something else other than R&J and dramatic music for once, but that program is just very boring to me. Thats just my opinion. His Chopin SP is great though
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Yes it's empty with tons of transitions and difficult entries. :handw: I guess the Italian Europsport commentators who once were skaters...were blind to praise Yuzuru's difficulties he has shown in his Seimei.
Count the transitions, steps that he is using in his long program, then compare it to other top men, and we will talk about how Seimei is "empty" later.
You don't like it, fine. No problem. But you can't tell a program is empty when in fact it's loaded with transitions. :sarcasm: The program has many difficult transition, that is a fact.
And if you think doing too many crossovers is the sign of a busy program, then I beg to differ.
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It looks jam-packed to me. There are so many cool moves in the program, as well as an adherence to the source material.
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That means you just don't get it. Or really, the rationale behind the choreography.
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Have you read this analysis about Yuzuru's Seimei? https://www.facebook.com/groups/1610393525875114/permalink/1653456464902153/
These Italian commentators have discussed and pointed out why Yuzuru's program is so jam packed and so difficult.
Okay. You guys are right that there are many transitions in his program, but still, the program just makes me feel empty. Maybe it's because it's TOO jam-packed and difficult for my taste. It seems like he's just trying to get through the elements in the program, which is understandable because his program and jump elements are so difficult. More is not always better IMO.
At this point, I don't care for his Seimei LP. Maybe my opinion will change later on in the season.
At this point, I don't care for his Seimei LP. Maybe my opinion will change later on in the season.
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