But everyone other women in the final group, did execute a 3 loop. This is a sport, and its a deficiency. It takes time to perfect and keep consistent a jump.
2014 Olympics Ladies Free Skate
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But everyone other women in the final group, did execute a 3 loop. This is a sport, and its a deficiency. It takes time to perfect and keep consistent a jump.
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Okay, I watched the performances again on high-quality recordings, and now I'm actually upset because Sotnikova's 3Toe in combo at the start was most definitely underrotated but she didn't get called on it.
It's all rigged. I hate figure skating judges.
They call jumps under-rotation/rotation calls however they want to call it. Mao's jumps weren't under-rotated today, and yet she got two under-rotation calls. And Kanako, well, you could tell Skating Feds wants her to not retire because they blatantly ignored her under-rotations today. And why are some edge calls ignored and some not? Kanako, I think, should retire just to spite these judges.
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I'm so happy that we could watch her one more time, hope she will win the world championships !!!!
I think Yuna realized deep down she was never going to win this, so she skated without worry. I don't think she's going to lose any sleep over this. She is already an Olympic champion and one of the ten richest female athletes in the world according to Forbes, and a major celebrity. She doesn't need a second gold medal (that's not to say she's undeserving, in my books I thought she won today and my jaw dropped when I saw her score).
The TRUE results will not be measured today. They will be apparent in ten years' time. A decade after the fact, who is held as the gold standard in figure skating: Michelle Kwan or Sarah Hughes? Hughes has OGM but Kwan doesn't, but who is still more fondly remembered today and still the bigger star? Sarah had a huge mountain to climb and all but vanished from the sport before she turned 20. Will this also happen to Adelina? Watch for who's on the podium at 2018. Maybe today was a coming-out party for her. Maybe today was just a fluke. We won't know for awhile. And Yuna even though she's retired will be all over the next Olympics in Korea and overshadow the entire competition, the way Plushenko did this year in Sochi.
All three ladies - and also Mao - skated gloriously today. We don't agree with the results, but they must all deserve congratulations on a job well done.
The TRUE results will not be measured today. They will be apparent in ten years' time. A decade after the fact, who is held as the gold standard in figure skating: Michelle Kwan or Sarah Hughes? Hughes has OGM but Kwan doesn't, but who is still more fondly remembered today and still the bigger star? Sarah had a huge mountain to climb and all but vanished from the sport before she turned 20. Will this also happen to Adelina? Watch for who's on the podium at 2018. Maybe today was a coming-out party for her. Maybe today was just a fluke. We won't know for awhile. And Yuna even though she's retired will be all over the next Olympics in Korea and overshadow the entire competition, the way Plushenko did this year in Sochi.
All three ladies - and also Mao - skated gloriously today. We don't agree with the results, but they must all deserve congratulations on a job well done.
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I couldn't say it better, totally agree 
Jumps are graded on much more than being "high".
And I'm glad that you like her as a figure skater because of her SPINS.
Figure skating should be about the package, not one or two elements.
Anyways, I know a lot of people on the thread are upset about Yuna being robbed. But it really breaks my heart to think about all the other non-Russian skaters who have been robbed as well. All the skaters deserved the best fighting chance at the Olympics. How sad that they come after 4 years of hard work to participate in something that was never in their favor.
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Yeah, I'm almost certain she will. It's held in Japan after all. I think all the Japanese skaters should announce on the day that they will retire, and then what will the world of figure skating do then? Are they gonna turn to Russia with their wonderfully callous audience turn up for skating events?
You make a very interesting point, on_the_horizon. And welcome to GoldenSkate!
YuNa trained in Korea this time around, which is more isolated than her old training situation in Canada. Though she did work with David Wilson, she did not have the kind of constant team support that might have prepared her for the changes in skating from 2010.
There's a sort of parallel to 1998, even though it was under the 6.0 system. Many people feel that what cost Michelle the gold was that Tara did atriple-triple and Michelle did not. Michelle's superior artistry did not outweigh that small technical difference. I don't love that outcome, but it can at least be explained. Of course, it's easier to be cool-headed when comparing two skaters from the same country, because national politics will not enter into the discussion.
YuNa trained in Korea this time around, which is more isolated than her old training situation in Canada. Though she did work with David Wilson, she did not have the kind of constant team support that might have prepared her for the changes in skating from 2010.
There's a sort of parallel to 1998, even though it was under the 6.0 system. Many people feel that what cost Michelle the gold was that Tara did atriple-triple and Michelle did not. Michelle's superior artistry did not outweigh that small technical difference. I don't love that outcome, but it can at least be explained. Of course, it's easier to be cool-headed when comparing two skaters from the same country, because national politics will not enter into the discussion.
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I know, and I'm frustrated... I blame it on the poor training condition she was subjected to as a youngster in South Korea. Stupid federation people!!! Was it so hard for these incompetent men to build her a training facility when they had a world-class skater on their hands???
A great way of putting it.
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Seriously it's my taste and you could do nothing with it, don't you? I don't think Kim Yuna's performance this night exciting to watch and I am a villain? The feeling is subtle but that's what I feel and like, so no matter to you anyways. If you find it annoyed that there are people who do not like Kim Yuna's performances as you, then you should be annoyed all days. Get over it. People have different taste.
Remind you of this: I only follow figure skating when it's Olympic, never out side of it. I live in A tropical country, where skating is never an option. Maybe I have not followed the system enough, I watch for joy and exciting feelings, in Kim's performance these days I don't find that. She was not what she used to be 4 years ago. i just want someone fresh. Adelina is not my favorite. But i can see why she won. My favorite would be Mao. Too bad she fell in her SP.
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The odds are never in [their] favor.
*whistles*
*katnisstriple-triplesallupinyourface*
lol
There is no way Kostner's technical score should be that close to Yu-na's. About a point different.
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Thank you for your warm welcome, Olympia! My whole day's been a wreck with the outcome from Sochi...
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Agree Agree Agree Adelina's performance was far from clean, just so you know.
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You're bringing up an orange to explain a pear, if I may say so. The artistry bit didn't matter that much in 6.0 anyway and if you have two Americans going head to head, then of course the judge chooses the skater who scores better under that judging system. Tara was better than Michelle that day. Full stop. But if you have two skaters from different nationalities and the judges have decided to anoint the skater from country A over country B regardless of how they skate, then the skater from country A wins even if the skater from country B skated better according to the criteria of the current judging system.
