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2017-18 State of U.S. Ladies Skating

Who coaches Ting Cui? I just saw her on YouTube and she was quite good. How old is she? Does she plan on remaining a Junior next season as well?
 
mrrice said:
Who coaches Ting Cui? I just saw her on YouTube and she was quite good. How old is she? Does she plan on remaining a Junior next season as well?
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She's currently coached by Vincent Restencourt, used to be coached by Chris Conte.
 
Rosa74 said:
She's currently coached by Vincent Restencourt, used to be coached by Chris Conte.
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I've never heard of either one of them but, they're doing a great job with her. She will definitely have to fix her rotation problem but, unlike Bradie, she's quite a good performer.
 
mrrice said:
I've never heard of either one of them but, they're doing a great job with her. She will definitely have to fix her rotation problem but, unlike Bradie, she's quite a good performer.
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I think you have her mixed up with Emmy. Ting didn’t get any <.
 
lappo said:
Osmond is 23 actually. But I think the main difference between the two is the time they got to spend as senior skaters and the different exposure: Kaetlyn turned senior in 2011/12, was national champion and went to world the following year for the first time, went to the Olympics and so on. Bradie turned senior in 2016/7 and went to his first (and only) GP event this year; there is quite a difference in experience that plays a part in the capacity to deliver a performance (of course, Osmond has also a natural talent, so to speak, for performing but still all the years spent in senior competition - except the injury ones - were certainly beneficial to her as well). Different skaters, different paths; Bradie could certainly improve on this side as well.
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i think Kaetlyn is 22 but the real issue is Bradie regardless of what age has a program that is a bit juniorish but it won't matter if she lands the jumps she will move up. She was fairly solid at the olympics -not as good as we have seen but still top ten ain't bad. Too bad she is a bit bland ala Rachel Flatt. She may have been the top placing American lady but it wasn't like there was a huge difference between the US ladies at oly and other than Mirai's triple axel in the team event, they were rather perfunctory in their performances - not terrible for sure but a bit of a yawn. They have a shot at three spots for next year but if the Canadians bring it, korea, China, italy andof course Japan and Russia they could be in big trouble.
 
andromache said:
Ting performed pretty darn well at JW. Best showing by a junior lady at JW in quite a while, it seems to be. Her placement wasn't stellar, but it's SUCH a stacked field, and she only had the one error across two programs. Would be nice if she can take this experience and capitalize on it on the JGP next year.
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Ting may be moving up to seniors next year.
 
MsLayback said:
Ting may be moving up to seniors next year.
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I think that would be a seriously bad idea. US has seriously lacked any junior ladies who are very competitive internationally, so when they move up to seniors, they have very little reputation (like Karen and Bradie, for example, and we'll probably see the same thing happen to Starr Andrews next season). That, and Ting isn't a great competitor, so more experience at the junior level would be more beneficial to building her confidence without piling the pressure on too fast.

Can skaters do senior Bs and the JGP? IMO, give Ting two relatively early JGP assignments. If she skates well, give her a senior B, too. (Don't take away her second JGP assignment if she bombs the first - let her keep learning - it's not like the US has anyone waiting in the wings in dire need of a JGP spot.)
 
andromache said:
I think once Pooja got the minimums at Bavarian Open, USFS should've pulled Emmy and sent Pooja. But USFS doesn't generally pull people who have already been given things, and USFS also doesn't seem to assign people to events unless they've ALREADY gotten the minimums needed. I can't recall, but I assume Starr withdrew from JW before Pooja got her minimums, otherwise Pooja would've probably been sent to JW?
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USFSA assigned Tyler Pierce to Junior Worlds in 2016 even though she didn't have the minimums at the time of the assignment. Tyler was sent to Bavarian Open to earn the TES (just like Pooja did this year) so I'm sure they could have waited a couple of weeks before naming the alternate. I think the only reason Emmy got that spot is because she had the highest placement at JGP, but considering her poor form at Nationals, this was a mistake.
 
angelicaamatina said:
If Ting is moving up to senior she will only be doing it nationally, IE she will still be assigned JGP's but compete as a senior at nationals only.
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Yes it will be probably be on the national level only but what a shame USFSA doesn't promote talented age eligible jrs... Let's just keep sending subpar and hangers on skaters who will never rise is any higher in the world than they already are...this is why the us ladies are barely making the top ten
 
klutzy said:
So wasn't Tessa Hong coached by Frank Carroll? If she's retiring, does that mean he finally is?
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I heard Frank being interviewed on a shuttle at nationals. He said that this (2018) was likely his last nationals. He said that Tessa wants to "pursue her studies" and his other student Scott Davis was retiring.
 
Skater Boy said:
i think Kaetlyn is 22 but the real issue is Bradie regardless of what age has a program that is a bit juniorish but it won't matter if she lands the jumps she will move up. She was fairly solid at the olympics -not as good as we have seen but still top ten ain't bad. Too bad she is a bit bland ala Rachel Flatt. She may have been the top placing American lady but it wasn't like there was a huge difference between the US ladies at oly and other than Mirai's triple axel in the team event, they were rather perfunctory in their performances - not terrible for sure but a bit of a yawn. They have a shot at three spots for next year but if the Canadians bring it, korea, China, italy andof course Japan and Russia they could be in big trouble.
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I definitely agree with you. But as far as the package goes, she probably had to do with what she could afford at the time, considering that she was basically a new senior with no previous accomplishment. Now that she is the US champion maybe she will get more funds/opportunities to hire a better choreographer. A good choreographer could have her exercise in the PE/IN area a bit; TBH, I also don't think that she is naturally talented in these areas as much as in TES but she definitely can improve and have two programs that play to her strenght. Also, is she doing SOI? Many skaters spoke in the past about how much performing for the public helped them improve their presentation...we could see that even in V/M after returning from their break, they weren't certainly lacking before but you could see a new whole level of confidence and committment to involve the crowd.
 
lappo said:
I definitely agree with you. But as far as the package goes, she probably had to do with what she could afford at the time, considering that she was basically a new senior with no previous accomplishment. Now that she is the US champion maybe she will get more funds/opportunities to hire a better choreographer. A good choreographer could have her exercise in the PE/IN area a bit; TBH, I also don't think that she is naturally talented in these areas as much as in TES but she definitely can improve and have two programs that play to her strenght. Also, is she doing SOI? Many skaters spoke in the past about how much performing for the public helped them improve their presentation...we could see that even in V/M after returning from their break, they weren't certainly lacking before but you could see a new whole level of confidence and committment to involve the crowd.
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Shes a "special guest" on SOI, meaning she will only be preforming in a few places.
 
temadd said:
I heard Frank being interviewed on a shuttle at nationals. He said that this (2018) was likely his last nationals. He said that Tessa wants to "pursue her studies" and his other student Scott Davis was retiring.
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Off topic, but Scott Dyer is retiring?

Wishing him, Tessa, and Frank the best. :bow: :ghug:

Scott's retirement would open up a spot for a different man to qualify for Nats via Pacific Coast sectionals. #ShotaroOmori :pray:
 
ice coverage said:
Off topic, but Scott Dyer is retiring?

Wishing him, Tessa, and Frank the best. :bow: :ghug:

Scott's retirement would open up a spot for a different man to qualify for Nats via Pacific Coast sectionals. #ShotaroOmori :pray:
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Is Shotaro still skating? I remember seeing him as Junior and thinking he was going to be fighting it out with Joshua and Jason and after they swept the podium at Junior Worlds. Shotaro seemed to fade while the others rose and I thought he had retired. He had a great style and I'd love to see do well next season.
 
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